ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?

[cosmicwxdude]

Well considering it may be their best (IMHO  ) I'd say, sure.

[cosmicwxdude]

Affirmatively a fine collection of songs with which to introduce the uninitiated to this rather pleasant-sounding musical beat combo.

    Very nice.

[orcus116]

I've always thought Six Degrees was the best introductory album.

[hefdaddy42]

I've always thought Six Degrees was the best introductory album.

I love it, but it almost seems overwhelming as an introduction.

[orcus116]

Really? "The Glass Prison" sucked me in immediately, and the rest of the album has a nice variety of music. I can't think of another album that showcases as much of a spectrum of their sound aside from maybe Awake but even that is a bit of a stretch.

[Scorpion]

As much as I love SDOIT, I don't think that it's that good of an introductory album, though it depends on who you're introducing. If you are introducing someone who's new to the progressive scene, then SDOIT is out, because it is too much too stomach for a prog newbie. One song that's less than ten minutes? That would probably have been too much to handle for me when I was fairly new to DT and I would think that others would have the same problems.

If you are introducing someone who likes prog, yet has never heard DT (which is highly unlikely, true), then SDOIT would be good though.

[BlobVanDam]

I wasn't into prog when I first heard DT (I still can't stand the genre at all), and yet SDOIT was the album that got me hooked on DT. How could any metal fan listen to TGP and not instantly fall in love?

[Mosh]

It wouldn't be a bad idea, but Images, Scenes and Awake would be much better.

[MoraWintersoul]

I've only gotten two people a bit into DT - for my best girl friend I just made a compilation of some songs I thought she'd like, since she's not big on listening to albums in their entirety, and I've turned my boyfriend on DT by giving him Images and Awake and telling him to listen to them 20 times per day.

If a person is a potential prog-lover, they'll embrace the stuff that's harder to stomach anyway. I mean, they're going to have to get at that stuff at some point, might as well throw them into the fire right away. Even if you don't like it at once, there'll be something nagging at you in the back of your head telling you to come back to it for just one more listen, that's how it was for me. And SDoIT is one of my top five albums anyway, if I had to give people a "new" album it would be that album, not ADToE. For older albums, you can't go wrong with Images, Awake and Scenes. If the person is not too big on metal, maybe FII wouldn't be bad either.

[m0hawk]

ADTOE would be the first album I would recommend, actually. It contains all the elements besides their 20-minute-ish song. It's got very accessible hooks, a good balance of prog and metal, and great dynamics. I would not show them I&W or Awake first because, from personal experience, they only "clicked" after about 5 playthroughs. ADTOE, on the other hand, takes 2-3.

[reneranucci]

I consider it one of their weaker albums, so based on that I would say no. I just don't think it would grab people like their other albums, especially as a lot of people I know don't really like the album.

I'd hand them SFAM instead.

  couldn't agree more.

[OsMosis2259]

As much as I love Images and Awake, I would def not recommend those albums to a newbie.

Gotta start something that's more modern sounding so Id give em ADTOE

Great hooks, great balance between metal/prog...

THEN I would say to check out the classics like Images, Awake, SFAM etc

[Ruba]

No.

It doesn't have Portnoy.
It isn't that good.

[Kotowboy]

As much as I love Images and Words, I would def not recommend those albums to a newbie.

FTFY

[Kotowboy]

Yes

It doesn't have Portnoy.
It's that good.

And you.

[energythief]

I admit, this was the first CD I heard with the new line up and it kept me interested.

I think the second CD with the newest lineup is the best

 

[Implode]

I admit, this was the first CD I heard with the new line up and it kept me interested.

I think the second CD with the newest lineup is the best

"No, no. You see their first album was much better than their first album."

[Kotowboy]

I admit, this was the first CD I heard with the new line up and it kept me interested.

I think the second CD with the newest lineup is the best

"No, no. You see their first album was much better than their first album."

Is that from Scott Pilgrim ?  I thought it was a funy line but didn't *quite* understand the joke.

I assumed it was making fun of fans of bands who always say they like their most unpopular album just to be different or something.

[Rob24]

I suppose so.  It's got all the elements that DT are known for.

Except for the fast, poppy happiness of Solitary Shell, Surrounded or I Walk Beside You. 

[theseoafs]

I suppose so.  It's got all the elements that DT are known for.

Except for the fast, poppy happiness of Solitary Shell, Surrounded or I Walk Beside You. 

There's a track on ADTOE called This is the Life. You'd probably like it.

[Scorpion]

I wouldn't really compare TITL with those songs, because even though it might be the closest to the these of all songs on ADTOE, the vibe itself is much more contemplative than on the songs mentioned.

[chrisbDTM]

I suppose so.  It's got all the elements that DT are known for.

Except for the fast, poppy happiness of Solitary Shell, Surrounded or I Walk Beside You. 

DT is known for those songs?

[TheGreatPretender]

Lost Not Forgotten would be a pretty terrible introduction song. I mean, that 'tickle' section, as it's referred to is interesting, but I'm familiar with all of DT's body of work. Whereas, for someone who's never heard them before, something like that would probably be too overwhelming.

[comment]

Definitely a good introductory album.

[Rob24]

I suppose so.  It's got all the elements that DT are known for.

Except for the fast, poppy happiness of Solitary Shell, Surrounded or I Walk Beside You. 

DT is known for those songs?

DT is definitely known for having a poppy side!

There's a track on ADTOE called This is the Life. You'd probably like it.

I appreciate your sarcastic contribution, but is that track anywhere near as uplifting-poppy as the chorus of Solitary Shell? It's a ballad.

[Cable]

Lost Not Forgotten would be a pretty terrible introduction song. I mean, that 'tickle' section, as it's referred to is interesting, but I'm familiar with all of DT's body of work. Whereas, for someone who's never heard them before, something like that would probably be too overwhelming.

While I agree about LNF not being a good DT intro song, is the section that far off from [fire shield] Under a Glass Moon's dissonant section? Many have cited I&W in lieu of ADTOE... [/flame shield]

[theseoafs]

Lost Not Forgotten would be a pretty terrible introduction song. I mean, that 'tickle' section, as it's referred to is interesting, but I'm familiar with all of DT's body of work. Whereas, for someone who's never heard them before, something like that would probably be too overwhelming.

While I agree about LNF not being a good DT intro song, is the section that far off from [fire shield] Under a Glass Moon's dissonant section? Many have cited I&W in lieu of ADTOE... [/flame shield]

They sound completely different.

[Breaking All Illusions]

A Dramatic Turn Of Events isn't a bad place to start. I would have someone listen to these four albums in this order if I wanted to introduce them to Dream Theater. Images And Words, Awake, Scenes From A Memory and A Dramatic Turn Of Events.

[chrisbDTM]

still dont understand why the 'tickle section' gets singled out quite a bit in a negative context. it's awesome

[orcus116]

What the hell is the tickle section?

[FlyingBIZKIT]

The crazy part near the beginning of Lost Not Forgotten

[TheGreatPretender]

still dont understand why the 'tickle section' gets singled out quite a bit in a negative context. it's awesome

It's overwhelming. I mean, You think it's awesome, but you're an established DT fan. Show it to someone who's never heard DT before, and they'll be like, "What the hell is this? That's too much."

[theseoafs]

still dont understand why the 'tickle section' gets singled out quite a bit in a negative context. it's awesome

It's overwhelming. I mean, You think it's awesome, but you're an established DT fan. Show it to someone who's never heard DT before, and they'll be like, "What the hell is this? That's too much."

That depends on a lot of factors. DT isn't the only band on the planet that sounds like DT anymore.

If they're already familiar with progressive rock or any remotely technical metal, the tickle section really isn't all that overwhelming. But if this person has only ever heard country in his life, then I wouldn't even have him listen to any DT.

[TheGreatPretender]

That depends on a lot of factors. DT isn't the only band on the planet that sounds like DT anymore.

If they're already familiar with progressive rock or any remotely technical metal, the tickle section really isn't all that overwhelming. But if this person has only ever heard country in his life, then I wouldn't even have him listen to any DT.

I dunno, man. That section was borderline overwhelming even for me. Honestly, I like the technical aspect of it, but I don't think it sounds particularly good.

[theseoafs]

It doesn't sound good, but that's not really the point, is it? Sounding good isn't really the point of any art music nowadays.