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Pick your favorite game. (Original Series only)

Final Fantasy
3 (2.3%)
Final Fantasy II
1 (0.8%)
Final Fantasy III
3 (2.3%)
Final Fantasy IV (II)
7 (5.3%)
Final Fantasy V
1 (0.8%)
Final Fantasy VI (III)
29 (22.1%)
Final Fantasy VII
37 (28.2%)
Final Fantasy VIII
10 (7.6%)
Final Fantasy IX
17 (13%)
Final Fantasy X
13 (9.9%)
Final Fantasy XI
0 (0%)
Final Fantasy XII
7 (5.3%)
Final Fantasy XIII
3 (2.3%)

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Re: Final Fantasy Discussion Thread
« Reply #945 on: August 16, 2010, 05:58:48 PM »
The junction system was like skullfucking yourself.
The junctioning system was pretty simple to me, I actually found it similar to FF6's system.
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Re: Final Fantasy Discussion Thread
« Reply #946 on: August 16, 2010, 05:59:12 PM »
It was simple but I didn't really like it.

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Re: Final Fantasy Discussion Thread
« Reply #947 on: August 16, 2010, 05:59:50 PM »
The materia system will forever be the best them.
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« Reply #948 on: August 16, 2010, 06:01:18 PM »
The materia system will forever be the best them.
lol
FF5 still exists man
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« Reply #949 on: August 16, 2010, 06:04:42 PM »
The materia system will forever be the best them.
lol
FF5 still exists man
Thank you for that information. I thought it asploded and everyone instantly forgot about its existence because it no longer existed. Materia still fucks it over though.
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Re: Final Fantasy Discussion Thread
« Reply #950 on: August 16, 2010, 06:05:20 PM »
Na dude. JOB SYSTEM!

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Re: Final Fantasy Discussion Thread
« Reply #951 on: August 16, 2010, 06:07:31 PM »
MATERIA. MORE CUSTOMIZATION FTW.
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Re: Final Fantasy Discussion Thread
« Reply #952 on: August 16, 2010, 07:08:57 PM »
OK, what are people's basic rankings of the playable characters?  Grouped in basically positive, neutral, and negative colours.  For comparison I'll list the games in order of how I rank them overall.  Not surprising to see some correlation between feelings for characters and how I rank the games.

II: Firion > Minwu > Maria > Leon > Ricard > Leila > Josef > Guy > Scott > Gordon
XII: Penelo > Vaan > Balthier > Fran > Reddas > Ashe > Larsa > Reks > Basch > Vossler
IX: Zidane > Garnet > Steiner > Beatrix > Vivi > Freya > Marcus > Blank > Amarant > Cinna > Quina > Eiko
IV: Kain > Rosa > Rydia > Cecil > Fusoya > Yang > Edge > Tellah > Porom > Cid > Edward > Palom
VII: Yuffie > Cloud > Tifa > Nanaki > Vincent > Barrett > Aeris > Cid > Cait Sith
III: Refia > Luneth > Ingus > Arc
XIII: Sazh > Lightning > Fang > Hope > Vanille > Snow
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VIII: Edea > Rinoa > Squall > Quistis > Ward > Kiros > Selphis > Laguna > Irvine > Seifer > Zell
X: Auron > Rikku > Yuna > Tidus > Kimahri > Lulu > Seymour > Wakka

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Re: Final Fantasy Discussion Thread
« Reply #953 on: August 16, 2010, 07:21:56 PM »
'Scuse me. What the FUCK is wrong with Barrett?
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Re: Final Fantasy Discussion Thread
« Reply #954 on: August 16, 2010, 07:25:22 PM »
I must be the only person that likes Quina  :sadpanda:

Plus he makes fighting Ozma SO MUCH EASIER, Angel Snack ftw
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« Reply #955 on: August 16, 2010, 07:36:27 PM »
'Scuse me. What the FUCK is wrong with Barrett?
He was an obnoxious dick? :lol

In the beginning of the game he's brash about he whole situation and doesn't weigh the consequences for anyone but his friends.  He has a violent temper and shoots stray bullets into the air frequently.  Rage just seems to be a blinding factor to his character, hard to appreciate that.

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Re: Final Fantasy Discussion Thread
« Reply #956 on: August 16, 2010, 07:43:56 PM »
Yeah, but he had a fucking GUN ARM. He was the most badass character in the entire series, but he was totally motivated by his daughter. He embodies what every father wants to be.
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« Reply #957 on: August 16, 2010, 07:44:26 PM »
He was an obnoxious dick? :lol

In the beginning of the game he's brash about he whole situation and doesn't weigh the consequences for anyone but his friends.  He has a violent temper and shoots stray bullets into the air frequently.  Rage just seems to be a blinding factor to his character, hard to appreciate that.

But....but..... the daughter  :sadpanda:


Nah. Replaying it, I've realized that I really don't care for most of the VII characters either. But I still love the game for other things like the kickass music, atmosphere, and materia system. And even if most of the characters' personalities don't mesh with me, there are a lot of story elements that I enjoy. As boring as Cloud may be as a main character, I still love his flashback section(s) and interactions with Sephiroth. Characters are sort of the low point, but it somehow manages to make up for it in other ways. And I'm 75% sure it's not just nostalgia.

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« Reply #958 on: August 16, 2010, 07:44:55 PM »
Hey, I loved Vossler! Minus the whole betraying you part.

And I loved Barrett during my first play through the game when I was a lot younger, but as I grew older and more reasonable... he started to annoy me, because yeah, he's an obnoxious dick.

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« Reply #959 on: August 16, 2010, 07:51:47 PM »
Yeah, but he had a fucking GUN ARM. He was the most badass character in the entire series, but he was totally motivated by his daughter. He embodies what every father wants to be.
I sure as Hell hope I'm never a father like that.  He also wasn't a badass at all.  Complete lacking of outward control doesn't describe someone that is badass, it describes a silly child.

Hey, I loved Vossler! Minus the whole betraying you part.
Vossler was just too straight up, he actually struck me as a potential slime ball soon after meeting him because of that.  I suppose the fact that he was left me with a negative opinion of him.

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Re: Final Fantasy Discussion Thread
« Reply #960 on: August 16, 2010, 07:55:45 PM »
At least Cloud and Tidus had something called character development.

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« Reply #961 on: August 16, 2010, 08:08:22 PM »
Yeah, I didn't hate Cloud and Tidus as much as everyone else seems to. But fuck Cloud in Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts, they make him fit all the stereotypes about him and... :facepalm:

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« Reply #962 on: August 16, 2010, 08:13:27 PM »
I think Tidus would have been a bit more well received if some of the more cringe worthy lines were delivered a bit better, or were even just better written. Like that damn laughing scene.

As for Cloud, I wouldn't say I hate him (well, the one in VII. I like to pretend Advent Children doesn't exist) but I would never use him as an example of a particularly likable protagonist. Yeah he becomes less of an asshole throughout the game, but take out the asshole and he's just..... bland.

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Re: Final Fantasy Discussion Thread
« Reply #963 on: August 16, 2010, 08:15:56 PM »
It took me a while to remember who Barret was, because I always renamed him Shaft.
     

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Re: Final Fantasy Discussion Thread
« Reply #964 on: August 17, 2010, 12:01:07 AM »
I must be the only person that likes Quina  :sadpanda:

Plus he makes fighting Ozma SO MUCH EASIER, Angel Snack ftw
I'm just indifferent to him. His blue magic in late game is fucking amazing though. I did the frog catching game A LOT so my frog drop spell was always really good at the end.

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Re: Final Fantasy Discussion Thread
« Reply #965 on: August 17, 2010, 01:46:10 AM »
It took me a while to remember who Barret was, because I always renamed him Shaft.
:lol

I agree that Tidus COULD have been a good character, if he was only given better lines and perhaps even switch out the voice actor. Yuna's voice acting wasn't that good either...

It's weird Square-Enix choose two average voice actors for their debut PS2 game, the first one with voice actors. WTF were they thinking? Learn from Bioware, ALWAYS great dialogs! :tup
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Re: Final Fantasy Discussion Thread
« Reply #966 on: August 17, 2010, 02:59:40 AM »
Why do people not like Snow? You keep bitching about how whiny previous protagonists are, so they give you someone awesome like Snow and...you hate him?

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« Reply #967 on: August 17, 2010, 03:12:15 AM »
Probably all that "hero" crap he keeps talking about.

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« Reply #968 on: August 17, 2010, 03:24:36 AM »
I really liked Snow during the first couple of chapters but he got old really fast.

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« Reply #969 on: August 17, 2010, 03:43:06 AM »
Barrett was badass, and had an excellent character development throughout the game. Definitely one of my favourite FF characters.

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« Reply #970 on: August 17, 2010, 07:55:06 AM »
At least Cloud and Tidus had something called character development.
:lol
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« Reply #971 on: August 17, 2010, 11:32:50 AM »
I would clarify red colours on my list meant more negative feelings, not that I necessarily hated the character.  Think of it as the ones that have dipped below indifference or a mild liking of them, some I did pretty much hate, but definitely not all.

Why do people not like Snow? You keep bitching about how whiny previous protagonists are, so they give you someone awesome like Snow and...you hate him?
As said, the hero nonsense makes him annoying, plus he is a lot of talk without any evidence to back it up early on.  He is a bit of a fool.  Now, I had negative feelings more generally for him, but I didn't exactly hate him.  By the end of the game I was mostly fine with him since he didn't go on as much about being a hero, but what I liked was his story with Hope, not his story with Serah.  In fact, while Hope wasn't the greatest character alone, his relationships with Snow and Lightning really worked well for me.

Barrett was badass.
A badass poses a calm, collected exterior and has a sense of danger without having to be showy for people to see it.  Barrett throws tantrums regularly.  He is someone to be afraid of and an ass, but he is out of control and needlessly violent.

Auron and Minwu are good examples of badasses in Final Fantasy.  Minwu was so awesome they made every lead White Mage since him a beautiful woman.

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Re: Final Fantasy Discussion Thread
« Reply #972 on: August 17, 2010, 11:47:18 AM »
Agreed on all points.

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« Reply #973 on: August 31, 2010, 10:30:01 AM »
I just got an open beta invite for FF XIV. I never played XI so I don't know how the last MMO was but I'm looking forward to trying this one.
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« Reply #974 on: August 31, 2010, 11:03:11 AM »
I just got an open beta invite for FF XIV. I never played XI so I don't know how the last MMO was but I'm looking forward to trying this one.
Nice! I'm hoping I get one soon. Let us know how you like it


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« Reply #975 on: August 31, 2010, 11:21:18 AM »
I just got an open beta invite for FF XIV. I never played XI so I don't know how the last MMO was but I'm looking forward to trying this one.

Me too, but they've indefinitely postponed the start of the open beta due to "critical bugs".

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« Reply #976 on: August 31, 2010, 11:28:02 AM »
I'd be pretty excited about the beta invite in my inbox if my lips weren't surgically attached to GW2's meat scepter.

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« Reply #977 on: August 31, 2010, 11:29:47 AM »
Well I already paid for FFXIV, so...

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Re: Final Fantasy Discussion Thread
« Reply #978 on: September 01, 2010, 10:59:37 AM »
Beta will be open tonight at 19:00 PDT :caffeine:

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Re: Final Fantasy Discussion Thread
« Reply #979 on: September 03, 2010, 12:00:42 PM »
Just got Dissidia. Haven't played it yet but I will give you my thoughts on it later.