2025 Ranking The Epics....

[Northern Lion]

I agree on the differences. I am just being funny, but I do like to play devil's advocate from time to time.

I see the validity in some arguments I hear for SDOIT. Pushing what the band says aside for a second, I can see the logic. After all, Scenes and TA are albums based on one central idea with a central theme both musically and thematically. They start with an overture that encapsulates that musical theme. SDOIT is a single CD (arguably around the length of a typical album) that has all the same elements. So, who knows? Perhaps DT did this on purpose to forever add tension in the fan base.

These are the things that keep me up at night (not really). 

Oh, OK, I get what you're saying.

[commanderbob]

I love all of them, but:

1. A Change of Seasons
2. Octavarium
3. The Count of Tuscany
4. In the Presence of Enemies
5. Illumination Theory
6. A View From the Top of the World
7. The Shadow Man Incident

I also love SDOIT, but it isn't a song. I don't care.

[Jamesman42]

It is a song, but I still agree with your sentiment.

[erciccio]

If SDOIT-disc II is "a song", then "Parasomnia" is a song.
This is pure Aristotelian logic.

[hefdaddy42]

If SDOIT-disc II is "a song", then "Parasomnia" is a song.
This is pure Aristotelian logic.

No it isn't.

[erciccio]

A song is a musical composition defined by certain charateristics of its music and of its lyrics.

SDOT is a song because it has an overture, it has recurring musical themes, and the lyrics are all centered around a specific concept.

Parasomia has an overture, it has recurring musical themes, and the all the lyrics are centered around a specific concept.

Hence, Parasomnia is a song!

  

Yeah, I know, you might argue that the titles in SDOIT are numbered...but I would never define "a song" as something defined by the name of its subsections...

Just joking.

[Northern Lion]

A song is a musical composition defined by certain charateristics of its music and of its lyrics.

SDOT is a song because it has an overture, it has recurring musical themes, and the lyrics are all centered around a specific concept.

Parasomia has an overture, it has recurring musical themes, and the all the lyrics are centered around a specific concept.

Hence, Parasomnia is a song!

  

Yeah, I know, you might argue that the titles in SDOIT are numbered...but I would never define "a song" as something defined by the name of its subsections...

Just joking.

Alright I'll run with it...

According to this logic, 8VM (the album) is also a song (connected musically between each song following a musical theme of the 8 note scale), SFaM is also a song, TA is also a song.  So...

That means, DT's longest songs are:
SDoIT (42:02)
SFaM  (77:06)
8VM   (75:44)
TA    (130:23)
PS    (71:15)

Stitch them each together using Audacity, and...
That would make one heck of a 5 track play list!  

[CraftyCaleb2483]

SDOT is a song because it has an overture, it has recurring musical themes, and the lyrics are all centered around a specific concept.

Parasomia has an overture, it has recurring musical themes, and the all the lyrics are centered around a specific concept.

All the parts in SDOIT flow seamlessly into the other, so that you can't tell where one ends and the next starts. That is not the case with Parasomnia

[KevShmev]

All the parts in SDOIT flow seamlessly into the other, so that you can't tell where one ends and the next starts. That is not the case with Parasomnia

I am not saying 6DOIT is not a song, but the sections in it most certainly do NOT all flow seamlessly into one another.  The transition from About to Crash to War Inside My Head is jarring, and Solitary Shell comes to a full stop before About to Crash (reprise) begins.

[svisser]

Officially changing my mind on my order

1. Octavarium
2. A Change of Seasons
3. In the Presence of Enemies
4. The Count of Tuscany
5. Six Degrees
6. A View from the Top of the World
7. Illumination Theory
8. Shadow Man

Shadow Man just does not hold my interest that much. The instrumentals are decent, but the rest comes off as some sort of TA B-Side. A lot of it seems like a show tune.

[Dream Team]

I love all of them, but:

1. A Change of Seasons
2. Octavarium
3. The Count of Tuscany
4. In the Presence of Enemies
5. Illumination Theory
6. A View From the Top of the World
7. The Shadow Man Incident

I also love SDOIT, but it isn't a song. I don't care.

Almost exactly in chronological order! And I agree wholeheartedly with Kev that 6DoIT does NOT flow seamlessly and I still tend to view them as separate songs because each have their own individual verse/chorus arrangement.