Official Parasomnia album discussion thread ***SPOILERS***

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lovethedrake

Now that I am a zillion listens in I have some more commentary:

Bend the clock is probably the most enjoyable DT song to listen to since SDOIT.   Not sure if I would say "best" but the repeat value is just off the charts.  Everyone sounds amazing and the JP solo's are so tasty.

Dead Asleep is insanely fun.

I genuinely enjoy every song aside from Night Terror.

It's starting to really rise up the ranks for me as an album.  I can't say where it will fall yet.

It has the songwriting and vibe of the SC/BC&SL albums but with the soul and warm production of the 90's albums.

Definitely some Astonishing/View vibes as well.

I think if Night Terror was 3 minutes or was something more like Blind Faith where it breathes a little more it would have really helped.  I solved the problem for my self by removing Night Terror but it still docks the album overall.

I'm thinking it certainly will be a top 10 DT album for me, and could even rise up to the 5-7 spots.   Time will tell.   

It won't pass SFAM, I&W, SDOIT and likely not Awake but to expect that would be foolish.   Will it beat out FII/TOT?  Not sure yet but probably fall just below which is still a great effort 16 albums in.

DoctorAction

I got a whiff of SFAM when I was playing it today. Might have been in the instrumental of Dead Asleep.

Very enjoyable album.

I think it's rating will end up pretty high.

Dream Team

Yes I like it more every time I listen. Killer. Also it could possibly have my favorite DT production ever if Myung and especially Rudess were just a titch higher in the mix.

TheHoveringSojourn808

My hair is still blown back from this album. It's the greatest thing they've made in a long, long time! HOLY SHEEEEEEEEEET
I'm never sleeping in a teepee again - Father John Misty

TAC

Quote from: DoctorAction on February 17, 2025, 11:35:31 AMI got a whiff of SFAM when I was playing it today. Might have been in the instrumental of Dead Asleep.

Definitely some Beyond This Life vibes.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

DoctorAction

Quote from: TAC on February 17, 2025, 01:31:44 PMDefinitely some Beyond This Life vibes.

Yeah, I think that's it.

Also, the instrumental section in TSMI is just so incredibly "Dream Theater". I think on second listen I clocked it, and every time since I looking forward to it. The way they tease the widdly widdly part is so great, then - there it is!  :tup

durga2112

Quote from: TAC on February 17, 2025, 01:31:44 PMDefinitely some Beyond This Life vibes.

I get that too. I don't have a timestamp at the moment, but there's definitely one part of the song that gives me the same vibe. The lyrics are in the same vein as well - basically a  procedural description of a murder. Both songs are... killer.  :coolio

NoseofNicko

It's at 7:48, I think Beyond This Life has the same chord progression during Jordan's solo.

Progmaniac1988

Yeah, I'm actually shocked how quickly this album is growing in my ranks! And Im not sure if anyone is having this happen, but I seem to be loving a different song every couple of days! First I kept going back to arms of Morpheus and bend the clock, then shadow man and dead asleep, then night terror started really clicking. Lastly broken man and midnight messiah really started clicking! Those were initially the 2 songs I did not click with as much as the other tracks, but now the chorus's and melodies all clicked and I love em! Even the little interlude before bend the clock I like the atmosphere. So now this album has officially grown to be a love from start to finish album for me! I can't stop listening to it!

wolfking

Quote from: TAC on February 17, 2025, 01:31:44 PMDefinitely some Beyond This Life vibes.

7:48 - Dead Asleep
6:57 - Beyond This Life

Herrick

Quote from: Wim Kruithof on February 16, 2025, 05:25:32 AMOf all critics on Dream Theater records, 'a lack of originality' or 'Dream Theater by numbers' is probably the hardest for me to swallow. Their spectrum is so huge and wide, every album seems to have his own place, with an own identity. The only two albums which kind of are close to each other, based on mood, songs and structure, are probably Distance Over Time and A View. They somehow feel close and connected. I know there are same song structures on Images & Words and A Dramatic Turn of Events, but the albums differ a lot and doesn't feel the same at all.

And although Parasomnia feels as a very smooth follow-up to A View, as an album it's absolutely new and fresh. And I love every bit of it. Each day a little more.

Herrick is quite pleased with Dream Theater "by the numbers".

I don't see any much of a connection between Distance Over Time and A View From The Top of the World. Every album they've put out feels and sounds different to me.

Parasomnia is very "by the numbers" to me. It sounds "fresh" (to me) only because it's new. But even though it isn't an instant classic (for me), it sounds like Dream Theater and it's new and this is good. I'm fine with Dream Theater not trying to reinvent themselves on each album and sticking to their style, a style that they pretty much created.

I think Parasomnia's starting to grow on me a bit more. Certain parts of songs are starting to get stuck in my head.
DISPLAY thy breasts, my Julia!

Cool Chris

Just got the CD today, and haven't been following this thread. Why did they lift the bit about "they all float down here" from It?
Maybe the grass is greener on the other side because you're not over there fucking it up.

Progmetty

Quote from: Herrick on February 17, 2025, 07:24:29 PMI don't see any much of a connection between Distance Over Time and A View From The Top of the World. Every album they've put out feels and sounds different to me.

Quote from: Herrick on February 17, 2025, 07:24:29 PMI don't see any much of a connection between Distance Over Time and A View From The Top of the World.

I agree with Herrick on D/O and View. I do feel that way about SC/BC&SL though. Aside from splitting the epic in two, every other song on the album has a counterpart that's very similar in vibe on the other album.

Maestrovirtuoso

Has anyone checked the BluRay-surround mixes on ,,Parasomnia"?
After all they seem to be only 4 channels, with the center speaker doing nothing but silence. (And: Yes, I checked my epuiment; it's working!)
It also seems to me that vocals are very low overall. Maybe because they are supposed to come from the missing center speaker?
How does surround sound work in your room? Does Anyone hear a center speaker on ,,Parasomnia"?
Is this intended?

JRuless

Quote from: Maestrovirtuoso on February 18, 2025, 12:20:53 AMHas anyone checked the BluRay-surround mixes on ,,Parasomnia"?
After all they seem to be only 4 channels, with the center speaker doing nothing but silence. (And: Yes, I checked my epuiment; it's working!)
It also seems to me that vocals are very low overall. Maybe because they are supposed to come from the missing center speaker?
How does surround sound work in your room? Does Anyone hear a center speaker on ,,Parasomnia"?
Is this intended?

Only the spoken sentences/samples are driven through the center

emtee

Only 1 point on this album I am feeling the urge to fast forward and it's the last 3'ish minutes of NT. I wish I could insert the radio edit.

All in all this is a very good album.

nobloodyname

Quote from: emtee on February 18, 2025, 04:05:19 AMOnly 1 point on this album I am feeling the urge to fast forward and it's the last 3'ish minutes of NT. I wish I could insert the radio edit.


Blasphemy!

Vlasto

Time to pick up my only 2 songs from Parasomnia (like I do for every studio album):

- Midnight messiah (well surprisingly )
- The Shadow Man Incident

hefdaddy42

Quote from: Vlasto on February 18, 2025, 05:15:16 AMTime to pick up my only 2 songs from Parasomnia (like I do for every studio album):

- Midnight messiah (well surprisingly )
- The Shadow Man Incident
Holy shit
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Vlasto


TheHoveringSojourn808

So far I think I am connecting with Dead Asleep most, feels like it describes the experience so perfectly, as someone who struggles with it myself. Has anyone figured out the time signature(s?) for the main riff? It's so good, it has been stuck in my head all week
I'm never sleeping in a teepee again - Father John Misty

TheOutlawXanadu

Quote from: Wim Kruithof on February 16, 2025, 05:25:32 AMOf all critics on Dream Theater records, 'a lack of originality' or 'Dream Theater by numbers' is probably the hardest for me to swallow. Their spectrum is so huge and wide, every album seems to have his own place, with an own identity. The only two albums which kind of are close to each other, based on mood, songs and structure, are probably Distance Over Time and A View. They somehow feel close and connected. I know there are same song structures on Images & Words and A Dramatic Turn of Events, but the albums differ a lot and doesn't feel the same at all.

And although Parasomnia feels as a very smooth follow-up to A View, as an album it's absolutely new and fresh. And I love every bit of it. Each day a little more.
Some people think that anything short of what Opeth did going from Watershed -> Heritage is playing it too safe, which is fine, but I'm also not sure what those people expected for Dream Theater's 16th album. Like... You really think they're going to completely reinvent the wheel at this point? :lol

As you mentioned, if you really listen and take the time to know their albums, there are important distinctions between them. Even DOT and View, which are similar in many ways, also have distinguishing characteristics.

TheHoveringSojourn808

Do you guys think the person that says wake up at the end of the album is Ian Anderson from Jethro Tull? Maybe he is waking us up so we can go listen to him read the last will and testament of the father.
I'm never sleeping in a teepee again - Father John Misty

ariich


Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on May 10, 2023, 05:59:19 PMAriich is a freak, or somehow has more hours in the day than everyone else.
Quote from: TAC on December 21, 2023, 06:05:15 AMI be am boner inducing.

Zydar

Quote from: TheHoveringSojourn808 on February 18, 2025, 06:18:29 AMDo you guys think the person that says wake up at the end of the album is Ian Anderson from Jethro Tull? Maybe he is waking us up so we can go listen to him read the last will and testament of the father.
I bet it's the hypnotherapist from SFAM. "Open your eyes, Nicholas!"

durga2112

It would be really cool if they decide to start another meta-album cycle now, where the next album opens with an alarm clock. And if they don't, my head canon will be that this album is a prequel to Awake, with the alarm going off at 6:00 on a Christmas morning.  :biggrin:

KevShmev

Quote from: TheOutlawXanadu on February 18, 2025, 06:07:17 AMSome people think that anything short of what Opeth did going from Watershed -> Heritage is playing it too safe, which is fine, but I'm also not sure what those people expected for Dream Theater's 16th album. Like... You really think they're going to completely reinvent the wheel at this point? :lol


I do appreciate that they put a different spin on Taylor Swift's Midnights concept.  :hat  :hat

durga2112

I got my vinyl copy over the weekend (ultra clear, which actually looks a lot cooler than I expected it to), and I noticed that the sides are labelled as "dreams" (Dream 1, Dream 2, Dream 3, and Dream 4). Each "dream" flows quite well musically - e.g. the first 2 tracks are linked, the next 2 share the "A Broken Man" melody, "Midnight Messiah" and "Bend the Clock" are linked by "Are We Dreaming?", and of course the final side is one long song. Is this just another example of really good vinyl sequencing by Dream Theater, or is there some significance to labelling the sides like that? View did something similar, with the sides labelled as "views", so if it's just a cute naming scheme, that's cool too.

jayvee3

Hmm - I've been listening to the album now since release, I feel the parts have sunk in and I "get" the feel and vibe of it all. Yet I just feel that while it's "fine", it's just fine, and I'm not that compelled to keep revisiting each track. Nothing is offensive at all, but nothing really stands out as greatness to me. I don't really have anything bad to say about it as a whole, but it just doesn't give enough that excitement I've had by many DT things in the past...

TheHoveringSojourn808

Quote from: Zydar on February 18, 2025, 06:26:35 AMI bet it's the hypnotherapist from SFAM. "Open your eyes, Nicholas!"

Ian Anderson was in SFAM too? lol  :rollin
I'm never sleeping in a teepee again - Father John Misty

The Letter M

Quote from: Progmetty on February 17, 2025, 11:49:10 PMI agree with Herrick on D/O and View. I do feel that way about SC/BC&SL though. Aside from splitting the epic in two, every other song on the album has a counterpart that's very similar in vibe on the other album.

Distance Over Over?

-Marc.

Metro

I listened to the vinyl version last night. Sounds great, but I was expecting the alarm clock to be a locked groove, where it loops until you take the needle off the record. The recent reissue of SFAM did that with the static at the end of Finally Free.
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Zydar

Or a reference to the movie Airplane - "We have clearance, Clarence".

durga2112

Quote from: Metro on February 18, 2025, 07:43:37 AMI listened to the vinyl version last night. Sounds great, but I was expecting the alarm clock to be a locked groove, where it loops until you take the needle off the record. The recent reissue of SFAM did that with the static at the end of Finally Free.

I was expecting that too, but I guess it makes sense thematically since the character/listener on this album wakes up and shuts the alarm off, as opposed to Nicholas on SFAM, who unfortunately is not able to get up and take the needle off the record (I was delighted to discover that the SFAM vinyl used a locked groove, by the way - it's such a small thing, but the attention to detail is hugely appreciated).