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Official Parasomnia album discussion thread ***SPOILERS***

Started by bosk1, February 06, 2025, 11:40:37 AM

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The Letter M

Gotta add that I feel like the back-half of the album is stronger than the front-half. Anyone else feel that way? At least the album gets better as it goes along if you listen in order. Better than an album that gets worse as you go along.  :lol

-Marc.

SeRoX

The Shadow Man Incident.

My first reaction after only listen: Their best epic song since Octavarium. Maybe this thought will change but I am sure I'm impressed on my first listen than A View, TCOT, IT and ITPOE.

It has Octavarium (keyboard especially) and In The Presence Of Enemies vibes all around. My only complaint is it lacks vocals. James is great from begining to end.

TheBarstoolWarrior

Quote from: The Letter M on February 06, 2025, 01:45:29 PMGotta add that I feel like the back-half of the album is stronger than the front-half. Anyone else feel that way? At least the album gets better as it goes along if you listen in order. Better than an album that gets worse as you go along.  :lol

-Marc.

Yes absolutely better back half. The overture is neat, but I only really have a desire to revisit AWD-TSMI unless at the gym.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

Subsub74

A solid 9/10 for me after about 5 whole listenings (except Bend the Clock which has turned about 20 times in my head).
The whole concept is really good, I like the atmosphere and its coherence all along the tracks.
There is not a single track that I would skip.
My favorites? Well, Bend the clock comes first, then Dead asleep, Midnight Messiah and Night Terror.
Still need a couple listens of The Shadow Man Incident (first half is great, still not into the second part).
But man, Bend the clock is so catchy, almost perfect in any way, I only regret the fade out which for me comes way too early while JP was just starting to compete with the never-ending comfortably numb solo... A pure piece of art.
If I would summarize my first feelings, I would say it'd be mid way between Train of Thoughts and The Astonishing.

BeatriceNB

Anyone felt like Portnoy was more "restrained" in this album? Compared to the last two album with him on drums. The usual fills and beats are there, but it doesn't seem like he's doing something busy every bar, like in Wither, for example.

The Letter M

Quote from: BeatriceNB on February 06, 2025, 02:22:52 PMAnyone felt like Portnoy was more "restrained" in this album? Compared to the last two album with him on drums. The usual fills and beats are there, but it doesn't seem like he's doing something busy every bar, like in Wither, for example.

I did notice he seems to serve the song fairly well in most cases across the album. Is it a lack of creativity, or a sign of maturity that not every verse needs fills and changed grooves? Either way, nothing stood out to me as super distracting from the song, and everything just blended together well. On top of that, the drum sound itself is immaculate.

-Marc.

TheBarstoolWarrior

Quote from: BeatriceNB on February 06, 2025, 02:22:52 PMAnyone felt like Portnoy was more "restrained" in this album? Compared to the last two album with him on drums. The usual fills and beats are there, but it doesn't seem like he's doing something busy every bar, like in Wither, for example.

Maybe to an extent. I dunno. Some of it could be age but it might also be more of that new team spirit rather than me-me-me attitude James was talking about.

He's playing quite a bit on ABM.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

evilasiojr


joevaicci

After 5-6 spins I gotta say I like this better than any MM-era album....maybe a close tie with ADTOE. It definetely sounds like new age-DT, but more 'fresh'. I am getting vibes from all MM-era albums especially the ones after ADTOE. It feels like there's more life in this record somehow. Also the vocal melodies have improved a little bit compared to the last few records.

- The overture has its moments, but I don't think I'll be revisiting this one much in the future.
- Night Terror is a cool single, definetely cathcier than the Alien.
- A Broken Man is a grower for sure with some awseome moments.
- Dead Asleep is quite interesting and has the most memorable riff. I totally hear Beyond this Life at some point. The lyrics are silly as hell on par with the Count of Tuscany almost.
- Midnight Messiah is cool, but kinda the least interesting song for me.
- Are We Dreaming...I don't know why this is a standalone interlude. I am quite curious as to how it came to be. Was it originally part of a track? Did they write this as an afterthought to bridge songs or what? It's cool though.
- Bend the Clock is a great, great ballad.Old-DT vibes for sure.
- The Shadow Man Incident is definetely the Astonishing 'entering the chat'. I also get Octavarium feels here and there. The very ending is going to be my alarm sound from now on :lol


All in all, that was enjoyable and I don't expect DT to re-invent the wheel at this point or sound like a totally different band altogether with each new record as they used to. This level of output keeps me happy personally. Also, I think parts of this album are going to slap even harder live. Peace out :metal

MinistroRaven

I've spun Parasomnia over 100 times now, and my thoughts are solidified—this album is easily in my top five: Scenes from a Memory, Octavarium, Parasomnia, Images & Words, and WDADU.

In the Arms of Morpheus, The Shadow Man Incident, Dead Asleep, Midnight Messiah and Bend the Clock are my absolute favorites. The atmosphere, the compositions, the performances—everything just clicks. 
And let's be real, the return of Portnoy is a HUGE deal for me. I've dreamt about this moment forever, probably even more than the second coming of Christ, LOL. He plays for the songs here, rather than constantly showing off, and I think it works brilliantly. The drum sound is huge. The overall production is impeccable.

Also, I love how the album feels so cohesive. There are musical motifs that pop up throughout, giving it that semi-concept album feel. The transitions between tracks, the recurring themes—it's all so well put together.

Dream Theater delivered big time.  :hefdaddy

HOF

Well, now I will be disappointed if Bend the Clock doesn't do anything for me.
Quote from: TAC on December 12, 2024, 05:40:22 PM"No way" is kind of strong, but I do lean with HOF.

wolfking

Just starting my listen now.

Once the riff kick in on Morpheus at 1:51, all I hear is Korn........

SeRoX

Quote from: HOF on February 06, 2025, 03:09:49 PMWell, now I will be disappointed if Bend the Clock doesn't do anything for me.

Can't speak for you or anyone but I can see Bend the Clock will be instant classic among the fans or top favourite at least. If you love oldschool DT Bend The Clock hits you like a truck.

HOF

Quote from: SeRoX on February 06, 2025, 03:19:41 PMCan't speak for you or anyone but I can see Bend the Clock will be instant classic among the fans or top favourite at least. If you love oldschool DT Bend The Clock hits you like a truck.

I do love old school DT, especially the old school DT ballads, so fingers crossed...
Quote from: TAC on December 12, 2024, 05:40:22 PM"No way" is kind of strong, but I do lean with HOF.

wolfking

Night Terror is decent but on my first listen, falls short after the excellent intro of Morpheus.  ABM still doing nothing for me and as it finishes, it hasn't captured my attention at all, but early days.

DreamerTV

If you have the chance, I highly recommend listening to it on Apple Music in Dolby Atmos. I'm doing it right now (I'm at Dead Asleep), and the listening experience is absolutely mind-blowing. I even managed to appreciate Night Terror.

This album is amazing, and while it's true that there are several references to instrumental parts from past albums, there are some stunning vocal passages that feel almost unprecedented for DT.

The only thing Bend the Clock is missing to become DT's new anthem—or a Comfortably Numb of 2025 (tonight I'm allowing myself to exaggerate, but it's not far from what I actually think)—is a more singable chorus.
Apart from that, it's a wonderful song with a solo that you can listen to over and over again without ever getting tired of it. I think I've had similar experiences only with the solos in Scarred and Another World.
Bravi DT!

TAC

Quote from: DreamerTV on February 06, 2025, 04:01:27 PMThe only thing Bend the Clock is missing to become DT's new anthem—or a Comfortably Numb of 2025 (tonight I'm allowing myself to exaggerate, but it's not far from what I actually think)—is a more singable chorus.


Huh. I find the chorus really memorable, and it was the first passage that really stuck for me.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

DreamerTV

Quote from: TAC on February 06, 2025, 04:07:42 PMHuh. I find the chorus really memorable, and it was the first passage that really stuck for me.

Don't get me wrong, I love it too.

But try comparing it to one of those choruses that everyone sings at a concert.

Can you picture the same thing happening with Bend the Clock?
I can't.

But I absolutely don't rule out that this might just be my own limitation.

wolfking

Not sure what it is with me and later DT but I just finished my first listen through and am so underwhelmed it's not funny.  Honestly found it a slog to get through for some reason.  I take solace though how A View took a couple of years to really open up but after one listen, I think I'll come back to it in a few days, as I don't have any real urge to play this again.

Even BTC and TSMI didn't really grab me.  Maybe it needs more listens but could TSMI be any less epic?  But, I think I'll keep quiet, give it time and keep coming back to it, like A View, I'm sure it will open up in time.

gborland

Is it too early to nominate "He woke to a horrible sight" as the worst lyric since "MY MUUUUUUSIIIIIC PLAAAAAAAAAAAYEEEEEEEER"?

BeatriceNB

Quote from: DreamerTV on February 06, 2025, 04:11:50 PMDon't get me wrong, I love it too.

But try comparing it to one of those choruses that everyone sings at a concert.

Can you picture the same thing happening with Bend the Clock?
I can't.

But I absolutely don't rule out that this might just be my own limitation.
Weird, when I first heard the song my first thought was "what a sing-along-y song", and pictured everyone moving their arms and all that. It's kinda like The Spirit Carries On to me.

PixelDream

It's a dark and heavy album overall. I like it, for sure. There's a good energy going on here.

I've heard most track multiple tracks, except Bend The Clock and The Shadow Man Incident which I've only heard once both. BTC is a fresh ballad type of song with a great ACOS style solo at the end.

I don't hear TSMI building up to something epic, it just ends. But that's just after the first listen.

That instrumental section of TSMI is absolutely fire though.

I really like Dead Asleep, that's a bangin' riff right there.

Not the most original album by the band, but they obviously stumbled upon a certain vibe and totally rolled with it.

The Broken Man theme throughout is a very nice touch.

I'm not blown away (yet) but definitely happy with what they cooked up being a band that's been going at it for 40 years.. very impressive.


TheBarstoolWarrior

Quote from: wolfking on February 06, 2025, 04:28:42 PMNot sure what it is with me and later DT but I just finished my first listen through and am so underwhelmed it's not funny.  Honestly found it a slog to get through for some reason.  I take solace though how A View took a couple of years to really open up but after one listen, I think I'll come back to it in a few days, as I don't have any real urge to play this again.

Even BTC and TSMI didn't really grab me.  Maybe it needs more listens but could TSMI be any less epic?  But, I think I'll keep quiet, give it time and keep coming back to it, like A View, I'm sure it will open up in time.

I'm sure the epic will unfold. A 20m song is a lot in one sitting.

After 16 albums I think we're all pretty hard to impress at this point.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.


wolfking

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on February 06, 2025, 04:55:56 PMI'm sure the epic will unfold. A 20m song is a lot in one sitting.

After 16 albums I think we're all pretty hard to impress at this point.

Definitely.  I'm jumping the gun of course but I was fully prepared for this reaction.  :lol

Will give it time.

wolfking


TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

jammindude


Awaken

Quote from: thedrumanimal on February 06, 2025, 01:23:41 PMThe chorus in TSMI starting at 8:05 is one of the best chorus melodies they have ever written, that section is Peak DT. The busy music to that melody, a really fresh approach for a DT Chorus. One of the best parts ever for me from my Favoriten band. And the whole instrumental part following that part, Peak DT!

This grabbed me on first listen and I look forward to it each time I spin the track.  Along w the chorus for Bend the Clock, the two best on an album with pretty strong choruses across the board.  JLB sounds great on this album. 

TheBarstoolWarrior

Quote from: jammindude on February 06, 2025, 05:18:54 PMIf ITPOE was any good. (Love part 1...despise part 2. :puke: )

Part 2 just makes me scratch my head. I can't imagine being so stoked to hear that song at the time and then getting *that* on release day.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

BeatriceNB

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on February 06, 2025, 05:32:12 PMPart 2 just makes me scratch my head. I can't imagine being so stoked to hear that song at the time and then getting *that* on release day.
Why is ITPOE 2 widely disliked? Is it the Sacrificed Sons Dark Master melody, the lyrics, both?

wolfking

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on February 06, 2025, 05:32:12 PMI can't imagine being so stoked to hear that song at the time and then getting *that* on release day.

I can relate to this today.  ;D

wolfking

Part 2 of Enemies is amazing.  Destroys part 1 IMO.

bosk1

Quote from: gborland on February 06, 2025, 04:37:46 PMIs it too early to nominate "He woke to a horrible sight" as the worst lyric since "MY MUUUUUUSIIIIIC PLAAAAAAAAAAAYEEEEEEEER"?

Too early to fully contextualize the "horrible sight" lyric.  But the "music player" lyric is fantastic, so if that's the comparison you want to use, that puts the lyric writing on this album in VERY strong company.

Quote from: wolfking on February 06, 2025, 05:46:54 PMPart 2 of Enemies is amazing. 

Totally agreed.  Haven't seen very many people at all slagging part 2 (other than Samsara, if I recall, and his wife).

TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.