What kind of live release do you think will come from the 40th anniversary tour?

[cramx3]

I don't trust or even like DT live albums anymore, where I used to think that was a strength to them.

Yeah, I can agree with this a bit.  DM was a really poor live release IMO and maybe a culmination of the live albums getting worse and worse.  I also hate that they sound like the studio albums.  DM bothered me a lot from the dead crowd too.

[Chino]

I work in solitude in a kitchen on Sundays, so I listen to whole albums often. I still listen to LSFNY, LAB, and SCORE with regularity. I find myself never listening to anything after SCORE, though.

[MarceloMalulo]

They need to film in a country with a crazy crowd and not turn them all the way down for the official release. And they need to perform the 12 Step Suite.

In Chile, the production company announced that the show was with numbered seats and we made an Instagram account to complain to the production company and they changed it to standing room. We're going to be f*n crazy that night.

[MarceloMalulo]

I think the best we can do if we want a live DVD with crazy crowd is commenting on their social media. If they see a lot of people asking for that, they will notice and this can be achieved!

[hunnus2000]

Yeah, I can agree with this a bit.  DM was a really poor live release IMO and maybe a culmination of the live albums getting worse and worse.  I also hate that they sound like the studio albums.  DM bothered me a lot from the dead crowd too.

Back in the day (way back) Geddy Lee talked about the different crowd responses in different countries. He talked about the Brits and how they would sit down for the song and then politely cheer after the song. Maybe it's a Brit thing?

[cramx3]

Back in the day (way back) Geddy Lee talked about the different crowd responses in different countries. He talked about the Brits and how they would sit down for the song and then politely cheer after the song. Maybe it's a Brit thing?

Nah, looked the same as a typical US crowd to me.  Just sucks for the filming of the DVD, DT can't get the audience to show some life.  It really only seems like South America gets wild for DT.

[Setlist Scotty]

Nah, looked the same as a typical US crowd to me.  Just sucks for the filming of the DVD, DT can't get the audience to show some life.  It really only seems like South America gets wild for DT.

I would imagine Italy and maybe Spain also go pretty nuts. And what about Germany? Maybe not on the level of Latin America, but I'd imagine they're noticeably more animated than North America and the UK.

[cramx3]

I would imagine Italy and maybe Spain also go pretty nuts. And what about Germany? Maybe not on the level of Latin America, but I'd imagine they're noticeably more animated than North America and the UK.

Maybe, but from my own concert experience in Germany.... I see no difference than the US.  But I can't say I've analyzed every country and venue so I'm certainly stereotyping all of NA and Europe a bit.  I think there's even spots inside NA that are better than others as well, but not sure if I can name them.  Just generally speaking, SA is a different animal and its quite clear (TAC shared a video in another thread from Chile and the crowd is incredible).

[MarceloMalulo]

Dream Theater Chile already started a campaign to record the DVD here

[MoraWintersoul]

Southern Europe gets about 80-90% on the animated scale when compared to SA's 100%, and Italy for example has always had a special relationship to DT. But I don't think they're going to want to record a concert on the first leg, and as long as they're doing an SA leg they might as well just record there.

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

One thing to note just by looking around the room in the US is that the audience skews middle age and up. The 'oldest' rock show I saw was the recent Dixie Dreggs show. There were people with walkers coming in. DT is not on that level but the people going to these shows are getting up there. Maybe it skews younger in Argentina or Brazil but you're just not going to see a lot of people going crazy.

I just saw Periphery on their latest tour and nearly everyone looked 20s or 30s. The place was going nuts with moshpits and people blasting themselves with dope. DT just does not inspire that sort of reaction. You do have some young people of course but there are a lot of middle aged guys with kids or people who have been following the band since the 90s and thus look the part.

[cramx3]

One thing to note just by looking around the room in the US is that the audience skews middle age and up. The 'oldest' rock show I saw was the recent Dixie Dreggs show. There were people with walkers coming in. DT is not on that level but the people going to these shows are getting up there. Maybe it skews younger in Argentina or Brazil but you're just not going to see a lot of people going crazy.

I just saw Periphery on their latest tour and nearly everyone looked 20s or 30s. The place was going nuts with moshpits and people blasting themselves with dope. DT just does not inspire that sort of reaction. You do have some young people of course but there are a lot of middle aged guys with kids or people who have been following the band since the 90s and thus look the part.

Yeah for sure.  It is interesting to go to some of the younger prog metal shows and see people really into it.  Even a Haken show people show more enthusiasm than DT, but you are right, a lot of it has to do with the age of the crowd and also whether or not its seated vs. GA. 

[Mosh]

IMO they should handle it the way they handled Live At Luna Park and the Happy Holidays release. Do a complete show for the proper album tour and capture as much of the new album as possible (and any big highlights that happen to be in the rotation, such as Octavarium), then do an official bootleg release from the European tour coming up, as I imagine there will be some cool classics that get swapped out for new album songs. 

[The Letter M]

I've not read every post in this thread, but personally speaking, I'd like to see the following:
-One singular, full show for a live video BD set, with a behind-the-scenes tour documentary as bonus content (from pre-tour rehearsals, to backstage antics, and maybe post-tour post-mortem interviews). Also on the BD bonus features, include some bonus video recordings from other shows, featuring songs not played at the main show.
-A live CD set that includes that full show from the BD, but also bonus tracks from other shows that include songs not featured in the main full show above. This would probably turn a 2.5 hours 2CD show into a 3.5 hour 3CD set, which would give us plenty bang for our buck.
-Release both the BD and CD sets separately so fans can get what they want, especially since many fans aren't buying CDs these days and may only want the concert video BDs. Perhaps the CDs can come in a deluxe set with the BDs rather than separately (I believe they've done this before).

I'm sure this might be the most documented tour of their careers, and I'd love to see a lot of extras on the eventual DT40 live concert set.

-Marc.

[ZirconBlue]

Perhaps the CDs can come in a deluxe set with the BDs rather than separately (I believe they've done this before).

Chaos in Motion, IIRC, only had the CDs as part of a set. 

[The Letter M]

Chaos in Motion, IIRC, only had the CDs as part of a set.

Checking discogs, it looks like they did that with Breaking The Fourth Wall as well, with the 3CD set only coming with the BD.

-Marc.

[MarceloMalulo]

Checking discogs, it looks like they did that with Breaking The Fourth Wall as well, with the 3CD set only coming with the BD.

-Marc.

I've been searching for that edition for years...

[OpenYourEyes311]

I've not read every post in this thread, but personally speaking, I'd like to see the following:
-One singular, full show for a live video BD set, with a behind-the-scenes tour documentary as bonus content (from pre-tour rehearsals, to backstage antics, and maybe post-tour post-mortem interviews). Also on the BD bonus features, include some bonus video recordings from other shows, featuring songs not played at the main show.
-A live CD set that includes that full show from the BD, but also bonus tracks from other shows that include songs not featured in the main full show above. This would probably turn a 2.5 hours 2CD show into a 3.5 hour 3CD set, which would give us plenty bang for our buck.
-Release both the BD and CD sets separately so fans can get what they want, especially since many fans aren't buying CDs these days and may only want the concert video BDs. Perhaps the CDs can come in a deluxe set with the BDs rather than separately (I believe they've done this before).

I'm sure this might be the most documented tour of their careers, and I'd love to see a lot of extras on the eventual DT40 live concert set.

-Marc.

I love all of this. I don't want to wish away the next 1.5-2 years, but I look forward to eventually having something along these lines to document this next tour. I think there's ZERO chance they don't release a live album from this tour.

[Setlist Scotty]

I just saw Periphery on their latest tour and nearly everyone looked 20s or 30s. The place was going nuts with moshpits and people blasting themselves with dope. DT just does not inspire that sort of reaction. You do have some young people of course but there are a lot of middle aged guys with kids or people who have been following the band since the 90s and thus look the part.

Hey! I resemble that remark!   

[Stadler]

I've been searching for that edition for years...

As have I....

[Stadler]

Checking discogs, it looks like they did that with Breaking The Fourth Wall as well, with the 3CD set only coming with the BD.

-Marc.

But they must've only release about 12 copies of it; it's one of the few artifacts I can't find at ANY price (not that I'm willing to pay anything for it).  Hell, if wanted to, I could even buy Gene Simmons' Vault for a price, but not the 3CD BTFW. 

[The Letter M]

But they must've only release about 12 copies of it; it's one of the few artifacts I can't find at ANY price (not that I'm willing to pay anything for it).  Hell, if wanted to, I could even buy Gene Simmons' Vault for a price, but not the 3CD BTFW.

Didn't realize it was hard to find these days. I looked back in my email and saw that I ordered thr 1BD+3CD set of BTFW back in late December of 2015 when I pre-ordered the Deluxe bundle of The Astonishing from Roadrunner Records. It cost me $50 at the time, well over a year after it originally released as well. I think at the time I was amazed RR still had it in stock, or I guess I got lucky.

-Marc.

[Pettor]

I feel DT always had three songs missing that should be captured live that I would hope the play and record.

The Glass Prison
I guess with AA-saga being complete this will be part of the show. Having a good quality capture of the whole thing is not only a fan favorite but something I think would capture attention online as well. The Glass Prison is insane and having a quality capture of that intro would be dreamlike!

The Best of Times
Mainly because of the solo. I do love the song overall but mainly there's (ofc) no live footage of JP doing the solo and I think if you search on Youtube for the video with most views related to DT it's this guy doing an incredible rendition of the solo. It's a phenomenal solo that just needs to be captured in full glory. JP also has a tendency to do the best renditions of the solos when playing live imo.

The Count of Tuscany
This song has been played a lot on the shows before but fans still lack a great live capture of the song. It's a favorite and the existing live captures aren't that great.

[gzarruk]

I feel DT always had three songs missing that should be captured live that I would hope the play and record.

The Glass Prison
I guess with AA-saga being complete this will be part of the show. Having a good quality capture of the whole thing is not only a fan favorite but something I think would capture attention online as well. The Glass Prison is insane and having a quality capture of that intro would be dreamlike!

The Best of Times
Mainly because of the solo. I do love the song overall but mainly there's (ofc) no live footage of JP doing the solo and I think if you search on Youtube for the video with most views related to DT it's this guy doing an incredible rendition of the solo. It's a phenomenal solo that just needs to be captured in full glory. JP also has a tendency to do the best renditions of the solos when playing live imo.

The Count of Tuscany
This song has been played a lot on the shows before but fans still lack a great live capture of the song. It's a favorite and the existing live captures aren't that great.

I think there's a very high chance of them playing the first two and having them properly recorded, but Count most likely won't as they already played it at every show in 2022 and 2023. At least we have a very good live audio version of it to listen to.

[cramx3]

The Count of Tuscany
This song has been played a lot on the shows before but fans still lack a great live capture of the song. It's a favorite and the existing live captures aren't that great.

pfft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sS8egnjjJ0 (ok jk, I agree, a proper recording of this song would be welcomed)

I think there's a very high chance of them playing the first two and having them properly recorded, but Count most likely won't as they already played it at every show in 2022 and 2023. At least we have a very good live audio version of it to listen to.

But yeah, this is why it's highly unlikey.  I think most DT fans, myself included, don't want to see them play this song again right now.

[TAC]

They're not taking up 20 minutes of set time on a song that they played on the duration of the last tour.

[OpenYourEyes311]

Yeah, TCOT is one of my favorite DT tunes. Loved hearing it in 2022. It was weirdly disappointing to hear it 2023.

[brakkum]

So glad everyone else feels the same about TCOT, I was pretty uninterested when they played it last time I saw them.

[geeeemo]

I never tired of seeing TCOT live. I got it 5x!
With that said, not this time. Make room for other songs....Ocatavarium! 

[Pettor]

I agree! TCOT is fantastic but a lot of time for something they played a lot already.

[Kram]

TCOT is great but it's been played a lot recently.  Got to go with Octavarium this time!

[gzarruk]

Let's not forget that DT16 apparently (going by Mike's posts) has at least one big epic, so they'd probably make room for that at some point and OVM could be the encore ending. There's just no room for TCOT. And if TBOT ends up being played (I think it should), they just wouldn't take that much set space with two long songs from the same album. It's not like these two are Metropolis and Learning to Live

[Plasmastrike]

TCOT is great but it's been played a lot recently.  Got to go with Octavarium this time!

I have a feeling Octavarium will make an appearance Personally, I want them to bust out Illumination Theory, but Octavarium would be tremendous. Also still hoping for no live click track.

[ReaperKK]

TCOT is great but it's been played a lot recently.  Got to go with Octavarium this time!

TCOT > Octavarium

[gzarruk]

I have a feeling Octavarium will make an appearance Personally, I want them to bust out Illumination Theory, but Octavarium would be tremendous. Also still hoping for no live click track.

Not happening for this tour at all, but I can see some weird alternate future where they play a MM epic medley with half IT and half A View. Is that too crazy to ask for?