DREAM THEATER - Europe leg of the 40th Anniversary Tour 2024-2025

[mariner]

I'm just wondering how they will fit everything in when they do the 50th anniversary tour.

A day with Dream Theater?   

[Chino]

Just curious what people's thoughts are.... If Octavarium was on the chopping block because of its length, would you be alright with them ditching the continuum intro and just getting to the song if it freed up another 5+ minutes for another song?

[gmillerdrake]

Just curious what people's thoughts are.... If Octavarium was on the chopping block because of its length, would you be alright with them ditching the continuum intro and just getting to the song if it freed up another 5+ minutes for another song?

Yep. It's a cool section and I 'get' why it's there....but....it's also one of my youngest sons favorite songs and anytime he puts it on in my car he does that exact thing. Skips it to get to the 'start' of the song.

[gzarruk]

No, I didn't forget it.  I think they are going to be touring before it comes out, so I was assuming this anniversary tour will be only songs that exist right now.  But I could be wrong.

And once the new album drops, I don't see any way they can include songs from every album.  They would essentially be forced to play only the shortest songs from each album and to play only a small sampling from the new album, and neither of those parameters fit their general approach to live shows.

In the latest interview Mike talked about them making sure the album is ready to be released before the tour. I think they're going to release it a few weeks before the first show.

[crystalstars17]

Just curious what people's thoughts are.... If Octavarium was on the chopping block because of its length, would you be alright with them ditching the continuum intro and just getting to the song if it freed up another 5+ minutes for another song?

NooOOOoooOo!!!!*!* 😭😭😭😭😭

That intro is literally what made me a fan... ✨💙

[mariner]

I decided to sketch up a very, very rough estimate of what the setlist could possibly look like, not factoring in the possibility of rotation. I threw in what I think are likely candidates mixed with songs I saw recommended a lot in this thread. Also, the runtimes you see for new album songs are just guesses, obviously.

Set #1:

1. First single from new album (8:00)
2. The Glass Prison (12:00)
3. S2N (6:22)
4. New album song (6:00)
5. New album song (9:30)
6. Home (12:54)
7. Surrender to Reason (6:35)
8. Surrounded (5:30)
9. In the Name of God (14:15)

--Intermission--

Set #2:

10. The Alien (9:33)
11. Afterlife (5:30)
12. Raise the Knife (12:00)
13. Through My Words/Fatal Tragedy (7:50)
14. Breaking All Illusions (12:30)
15.  New album epic (16:00)

Encore:

16. Octavarium (24:00)

2hr, 46m, leaving room for breaks between songs (James banter with the audience and John changes guitars) and intermission, as long as my math isn't painfully wrong.

This would be a cool show as well.

[pg1067]

And, yes, I survived the bear hug. 

"Both modes are Bear Mode."

Are we now going to have three pages debating how tall they are?

Just curious what people's thoughts are.... If Octavarium was on the chopping block because of its length, would you be alright with them ditching the continuum intro and just getting to the song if it freed up another 5+ minutes for another song?

Absolutely, without question.  It's boring as sin.  I'd also be ok with them ditching the steel guitar part of the intro (it wouldn't save much time dumping only the Continuum part of the intro).

In fact, it'll be interesting to see whether the Continuum and steel guitar are on stage to start the show (although, if 8VM is the encore, then could wait until then to put those instruments on stage to preserve the surprise).

[bosk1]

"Both modes are Bear Mode."

In fact, it'll be interesting to see whether the Continuum and steel guitar are on stage to start the show (although, if 8VM is the encore, then could wait until then to put those instruments on stage to preserve the surprise).

Interesting question.  I doubt a lot of people would notice them being there (but I could be wrong).  But the other thing that I think warrants mentioning is that at the time that song was composed, Jordan hadn't really developed and wasn't using the iPad apps he has now.  IMO, the Continuum is basically obsolete now, as he can use his apps to do pretty much the same things he used to do on the Continuum.  And I would venture to say that he can probably replicate a steel guitar well enough that he might dispense with an actual steel guitar as well.

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

A day with Dream Theater?   

[JiM-Xtreme]

Just curious what people's thoughts are.... If Octavarium was on the chopping block because of its length, would you be alright with them ditching the continuum intro and just getting to the song if it freed up another 5+ minutes for another song?

When the album first came out, I regularly used to do exactly that. Not that I didn't appreciate the intro, I just wanted to get straight to the "song" parts. Because ultimately, Someone Like Him and Medicate for me are right up there with the strongest melodic and lyrical passages they have created, and that they flow right into one another makes it all the more special.

So yeah, in answer to your suggestion, I wouldn't mind at all for the sake of getting more songs in. But is it likely to happen if JP has anything to say about it, which he will

[crystalstars17]

But the other thing that I think warrants mentioning is that at the time that song was composed, Jordan hadn't really developed and wasn't using the iPad apps he has now.  IMO, the Continuum is basically obsolete now, as he can use his apps to do pretty much the same things he used to do on the Continuum.  And I would venture to say that he can probably replicate a steel guitar well enough that he might dispense with an actual steel guitar as well.

I both agree and disagree here, respectfully. He could indeed make all the same sounds with the apps, but it would be missing something.

He is also known for using vintage instruments alongside the newest gadgets to create the sounds he wants to. I was just watching the View documentary where he did just that. And that is recent. So I doubt he would not use the Continuum.

[EvantheMotel6Owmer]

If they do, indeed, play Octavarium on the tour (I still maintain that I'm almost certain they will), I think they gotta bring out the Continuum. It just makes sense...

[Lazlow Panaflex]

So I accidentally ended up with four tickets for London O2 instead of two...

I was on an overnight flight from Dallas back to Ireland and I knew the presale would start while I was still in the air. Bought a WiFi package from the airline and was able to get 2 tickets in the presale, happy days! Then I landed and my father rings me and says he got 2 tickets for the London show. His seats are better!

Anyone interested in the 2 spare tickets? Has to be re-sold through Twickets (never used them before myself) but I can't list them for sale there until the general sale start time on Friday morning. I'm happy to write off the booking fee and even a little extra, so will be selling for £115 each (bought for £153 including £18 booking fee) so you're getting a 38 discount on each. Must be sold as a pair.

Seats are in section B3, Row B, seats 44 & 45.

(Moderators - If I'm posting this in the wrong place, please point me to the correct one and I'll repost there instead)

[Bluefish]

It's the Taxi Cab.


https://www.discogs.com/release/20684527-Dream-Theater-A-View-From-The-Top-Of-The-World

-Marc.

Good catch.  I though the taxi cab was from the self-titled album.  So that being the case, I don't see When Dream And Day Unite, Metropolis Pt.2, and the self-titled album represented on the poster.

[Lonk]

Good catch.  I though the taxi cab was from the self-titled album.  So that being the case, I don't see When Dream And Day Unite, Metropolis Pt.2, and the self-titled album represented on the poster.

SFAM has the album cover right in the middle

[EvantheMotel6Owmer]

SFAM has the album cover right in the middle

Bro stared at the sun during the eclipse.

[Lonk]

Bro stared at the sun during the eclipse.

To be fair, the picture without the dates does not have SFAM

[Bluefish]

So...I think...

- WDADU:  The only thing I can think of is the Majesty symbol.
- I&W:  Little girl in the foreground and sacred heart.
- Awake:  The clock face.
- ACOS:  Kid building sandcastle
- FII:  Two dudes in tall chairs with binoculars.
- SFAM:  Face in the sky.
- SDOIT:  The happy face on the third X.
- TOT:  Eyeball.
- 8VM:  Newton's cradle (still with one string too short), birds and leaning guy.
- SC:  Ants and sign with Majesty symbol.
- BC&SL:  Elephant.
- ADTOE:  Guy on unicycle on the second X.
- DT12:  The Majesty symbol, and I guess people are saying the car, but I have no idea what that has to do with the album.
- TA:  NOMACs.
- DOT:  Robot hand and skull
- View:  I'm coming up empty.  You'd think they'd have the shoes or the viewfinder thing, but...??/s

Where is the face in the sky?

[Lonk]

Where is the face in the sky?

[Bluefish]

To be fair, the picture without the dates does not have SFAM

I was looking at the picture without the dates.  I still don't see anything tied to the debut or self-titled albums.

[Metro]

WDADU doesn't seem to have anything, but I think it's fair to say the Majesty symbol represents the self-titled album.

[Bluefish]

Thanks I was looking at the poster without the dates.

[Bluefish]

WDADU doesn't seem to have anything, but I think it's fair to say the Majesty symbol represents the self-titled album.

I could represent that album, but it's also on all of the other albums.

[EvantheMotel6Owmer]

WDADU doesn't seem to have anything, but I think it's fair to say the Majesty symbol represents the self-titled album.

The yellow car represents the self-titled. It's from the Along for the Ride video, I think.

[geeeemo]

Do you think there will be posters?? I don't usually look for posters at the concerts and haven't noticed them at DT shows. With some concerts or bands, they are a big deal, so it's obvious. (Metallica)

[Dani Helios]

Do you think there will be posters?? I don't usually look for posters at the concerts and haven't noticed them at DT shows. With some concerts or bands, they are a big deal, so it's obvious. (Metallica)

They seem to have them fairly sporadically. I got them from the pre-ADTOE tour, and for the View tour. My gut says, it's a big event and people might want to have something to display from it, so, yes...

[The Letter M]

The yellow car represents the self-titled. It's from the Along for the Ride video, I think.

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, the taxi is exactly the same from the AVFTTOTW liner notes booklet, and looks different from the one in the DT12 artwork/music video. That one has luggage on the top and has a different window shape on the side.

As others have said, I think we can just say the Majesty symbol is pulling double duty to represent their debut album and their self-titled album.

-Marc.

[pg1067]

UPDATED:

- WDADU:  The only thing I can think of is the Majesty symbol.
- I&W:  Little girl in the foreground and sacred heart.
- Awake:  The clock face.
- ACOS:  Kid building sandcastle
- FII:  Two dudes in tall chairs with binoculars.
- SFAM:  Face in the sky.
- SDOIT:  The happy face on the third X.
- TOT:  Eyeball.
- 8VM:  Newton's cradle (still with one string too short), birds and leaning guy.
- SC:  Ants and sign with Majesty symbol.
- BC&SL:  Elephant.
- ADTOE:  Guy on unicycle on the second X.
- DT12:  The Majesty symbol, and I guess people are saying the car, but I have no idea what that has to do with the album.
- TA:  NOMACs.
- DOT:  Robot hand and skull
- View:  The car/taxi (which appears in the liner notes).  I'm coming up empty.  You'd think they'd have the shoes or the viewfinder thing, but...??

[MinistroRaven]

Thanks I was looking at the poster without the dates.

use this one



Open in new tab it has a nice resolution, however the SFAM face is not visible

[EvantheMotel6Owmer]

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, the taxi is exactly the same from the AVFTTOTW liner notes booklet, and looks different from the one in the DT12 artwork/music video. That one has luggage on the top and has a different window shape on the side.

As others have said, I think we can just say the Majesty symbol is pulling double duty to represent their debut album and their self-titled album.

-Marc.

Didn't know that since I don't own the CD yet. Suppose that makes sense.

[pg1067]

I've mentioned before that searching for "sfam" on Wikipedia will redirect to the SFAM page (also works for "wdadu," "sdoit," "bc&sl," and "adtoe").  However, if you google "sfam," you get a bunch of completely unrelated results, including the Society for Applied Microbiology.   

[The Letter M]

use this one



Open in new tab it has a nice resolution, however the SFAM face is not visible

That *is* the poster without the dates, which seems to cut off the top half of the image where the SFAM face collage appears in the poster WITH the dates.

...or am I missing something here?

-Marc.

[Shooters1221]

So why XXXX instead of XL?

I'm thinking they might be featuring songs from each decade with maybe a video in between each rather than playing 1 song from each album. The new album will be released in 2024 but I don't see another album until 2026 IDK, just a thought.

[Progmaniac1988]

Well, at least us North American people can start putting money aside now lol. I'm expecting more dates to be released in the next month or 2. I'll actually try to get good seats this time lol. My wife even agreed to come, because even tho I dragged her to see DT many times she never saw this line up live lol.

[Buddyhunter1]

So why XXXX instead of XL?

It's better than Call Of Duty using IIII instead of IV.