DREAM THEATER - Europe leg of the 40th Anniversary Tour 2024-2025

[Setlist Scotty]

I mean it could just be that those bands are bigger in Belgium. There are a few bands I follow here that get shit billing in the states but a lot higher billing overseas because they have a bigger following.

That's always possible and I haven't the foggiest idea of what is popular in Belgium, but I would be surprised that Till Lindemann solo is more popular than DT, especially with MP's return unless he has a much more lengthy solo career than I am aware of. Rammstein, absolutely. Same with the other two, altho from that one video clip, Powerwolf obviously has a pretty big following somewhere given how big a crowd the were playing to later in the evening (so had higher billing at whatever festival that was from).

[Max Kuehnau]

yeah Powerwolf do have quite a following in Germany and its neighbouring countries, I wouldn't be too surprised if they are big in Belgium as well. Till's solo career (as in him making albums and touring them) started around 2013. (he published collections of his poetry that is seperate from his Rammstein lyrics as early as 2001/2002 too, so it's your choice to include these or not. I find them to be interesting btw) In my observation, he is similarly popular in Russia as a solo artist and he has an arena world tour coming up next year. Clearly not Rammstein level, but more successful than some people might think (myself included at times btw) 

[Dedalus]

And the organizers of these festivals probably know better than we do what they are doing.

[PixelDream]

I've said it before but the Amsterdam concert was one of the best nights ever.

I went there alone because nobody would come with this time, didn't matter. So much energy and engagement between band and audience.

I've been a fan since around 2001 and hearing all these classics was just unreal, with Octavarium being the cherry on top. I was so impressed with the setlist.

Another highlight for me was Vacant > Stream of Consciousness. James sang Vacant very well and the FOH engineer clearly had his signal chain set up very, very well for every nuance to come through. When after that JP started the clean SoC riff, the audience reacting to that sent shivers down my spine.

[Logain Ablar]

Another highlight for me was Vacant > Stream of Consciousness.

Absolutely. I loved that too. Boss move..

[durga2112]

Well, I finally decided to stop kidding myself that there could possibly still be any songs in the current setlist than I'm unaware of. Between this place, Instagram, and YouTube, I've managed to get quite a few songs spoiled, so today I decided to just check setlist.fm, and sure enough, there wasn't a single song I wasn't already aware that they were playing. 

[Jamesman42]

I'm surprised to not see Thrice one tier above, not complaining or trying to show my love for them but I thought they were bigger than a few of the bands above. But like DeDalus said, these guys probably know better than us.

[Jinx]

Reckon they will release both the 40 tour and the Parasomnia DVD in one double pack?

[PixelDream]

I'm surprised to not see Thrice one tier above, not complaining or trying to show my love for them but I thought they were bigger than a few of the bands above. But like DeDalus said, these guys probably know better than us.

Here in The Netherlands Thrice are quite unknown (I'm a fan though). I also thought Eagles of Death Metal are quite low on the poster, from a mainstream perspective they're quite well-known (and not because of the Bataclan but outside of that, I mean).

[Jamesman42]

Here in The Netherlands Thrice are quite unknown (I'm a fan though). I also thought Eagles of Death Metal are quite low on the poster, from a mainstream perspective they're quite well-known (and not because of the Bataclan but outside of that, I mean).

That makes sense, thanks for the insight!

[Max Kuehnau]

Reckon they will release both the 40 tour and the Parasomnia DVD in one double pack?

possibly, but they definitely will release them both

[EPIC Outro]

If they do a double pack, I wouldn't be surprised if they call it something like "40 Winks" to represent the 40th Anniversary as well as the sleep themes of Parasomnia.

[Deadeye21]

Do we think that there'll be any major changes for the US leg of the 40th Anniversary? Or will the set only change once Parasomnia drops?

[durga2112]

Do we think that there'll be any major changes for the US leg of the 40th Anniversary? Or will the set only change once Parasomnia drops?

Major changes? No - MP/the band seem quite pleased with the current setlist, so I would expect at least 90% of it to remain intact. Given that the new album will be out by the time the tour starts, I'm thinking they might swap "Night Terror" for another song from the album, or have a couple of new songs that rotate, or maybe even swap out an older song so they can play two new ones every night.

I also wonder if there are any songs that were included in the current setlist because they were more popular in Europe. If so, that's another way I could see them changing something up.

And who knows, maybe there are one or two songs that either didn't get the response they were hoping for, or they've just realized are really not that much fun to play after all. It might have been too late to do anything about that mid-tour, but given a few more months they could work on something different for North America.

Either way, maybe I'll be more successful in avoiding spoilers next time around and I'll be surprised no matter what they play. 

[evilasiojr]

I just hope I can see Stream of Consciousness and Octavarium in Istanbul next year🤞🏽

[Max Kuehnau]

If they do a double pack, I wouldn't be surprised if they call it something like "40 Winks" to represent the 40th Anniversary as well as the sleep themes of Parasomnia.

or Double Score (as Scotty mentioned): A Wink And A Prayer (or something  )

[Deadeye21]

I'm glad they got a chance to bring this to a lot of fans. But I will forever mourn the fact that I never had the opportunity to see Stream or Octavarium. The first setlist that will hit Asia will likely be the full Parasomnia album, and I know full well that's not gonna have the two songs I wanna see the most. Even then, I'm gonna have to travel out of the continent, so I hope Parasomnia kicks ass. Massive shame.

[fadetoblackdude7]

I'm glad they got a chance to bring this to a lot of fans. But I will forever mourn the fact that I never had the opportunity to see Stream or Octavarium. The first setlist that will hit Asia will likely be the full Parasomnia album, and I know full well that's not gonna have the two songs I wanna see the most. Even then, I'm gonna have to travel out of the continent, so I hope Parasomnia kicks ass. Massive shame.

Parasomnia will only take up half of the show. You never know, they might keep those 2 songs in there.

[TAC]

Did anyone buy a shirt at the concert, and if so, can anyone show a pic? The DT website doesn't have anything. I feel like it's a missed Christmas opportunity.

Anyway, I'd love to see what they look like.

[DreamerTV]

Did anyone buy a shirt at the concert, and if so, can anyone show a pic? The DT website doesn't have anything. I feel like it's a missed Christmas opportunity.

Anyway, I'd love to see what they look like.

Yeah, I agree with that.
There's no new merch to be found anywhere.
I wouldn't say I'm a big fan of band merch, but with a logo as cool as the Majesty, plus just the name Dream Theater added, I'd definitely buy a shirt and sweatshirt/hoodie for sure

[goo-goo]

Yeah, I agree with that.
There's no new merch to be found anywhere.
I wouldn't say I'm a big fan of band merch, but with a logo as cool as the Majesty, plus just the name Dream Theater added, I'd definitely buy a shirt and sweatshirt/hoodie for sure

If one thing has frustrated me with Dream Theater is their merch (or lack of). It would be great to have shirts, hoodies just with the band's name/logo without tour dates, just to sort of waiting out, until the album related merch comes out.

[TheCountOfNYC]

I'd love more merch with album artwork. I love my 80's Metallica album t-shirts, and I'd love if Dream Theater would do something similar outside of as tour merch when they're celebrating an album anniversary. I'd kill for a t-shirt with the Octavarium artwork, and my Scenes From a Memory t-shirt from the 2019 tour is getting old so I'd love to be able to replace that as well.

[Pastor of Muppets]

Saw them in Amsterdam the other night. Solid show, but James had his fair share of struggling. Also, I really fucking miss Mangini in Dream Theater. Wish they hadn't let Portnoy back in, but whatevs. No use crying over spilt milk.

[TAC]

Was listening to the Paris show and man, I think Metropolis will have to be completely resung.

[wolfking]

Was listening to the Paris show and man, I think Metropolis will have to be completely resung.

I haven't heard anything from this show but that's disappointing to read.

[Pastor of Muppets]

Several of the guitar solos will have to be re-done for the official release of the Paris show, as well. Most notably Hollow Years. Looks like the Paris release will get the Distant Memories treatment. Most of the vocals re-done, and several guitar solos. They ain't spring chickens anymore.

[nobloodyname]

I haven't heard anything from this show but that's disappointing to read.

You know how critical I've been of James over the years. He was as good as I've heard him for a long time in Paris. And the videos back that up. Even the 'watch the sparrow falling' part was tolerable. Was he on pitch the whole time? No. But if that's what we're all expecting, we know by now it isn't going to happen.

[emtee]

I tried to search revenue for the Europe 40th tour because I was curious if the tour was one of the most successful over the last several years but no such info was available. Sure seemed like each show was highly attended. Hoping they get a similar result in the U.S.

[gzarruk]

I think they should've recorded the Parasomnia show in Paris and not the 40th anniversary, so they could've titled it "Parisomnia"

[ReaperKK]

They should just use a compilation of shows. If they are getting audio recordings for every show sub in the best performance of every song.

[Max Kuehnau]

I think they should've recorded the Parasomnia show in Paris and not the 40th anniversary, so they could've titled it "Parisomnia"

my guess is that they might record it at Plovdiv Amphitheatre

[Schurftkut]

I think they should've recorded the Parasomnia show in Paris and not the 40th anniversary, so they could've titled it "Parisomnia"

We don't know yet where the next liverecording will be, could very well be that the parasomnia is in south-america/bulgaria. Then they can still use Parisomnia, first part being the 40th show, and 2nd half the parasomnia show 

[Trav]

my guess is that they might record it at Plovdiv Amphitheatre

That makes sense. Possibly some combination of that and Pompeii.

[Max Kuehnau]

They should just use a compilation of shows. If they are getting audio recordings for every show sub in the best performance of every song.

unlikely IMHO, for the same reason why John isn't into doing medleys

[ReaperKK]

I mean if their playing is getting sloppy then it might be something worth considering, I feel like that's more authentic then going in the studio and re-recording mass sections of songs.