In Defense of James LaBrie: A Manifesto

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TAC

#280
July 29, 2024, 02:29:37 PM
It pains me, believe me.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

TheBarstoolWarrior

#281
July 29, 2024, 02:37:59 PM
Let's just hope that this gets better. All we have now is hope. It is a fairly bleak situation.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

TheHoveringSojourn808

#282
July 29, 2024, 05:56:01 PM
What?
I'm never sleeping in a teepee again - Father John Misty

TheHoveringSojourn808

#283
July 29, 2024, 05:56:33 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 29, 2024, 01:09:28 PMYup. He sounded pretty raw on the last tour.

Maybe they'll play Raw Dog on the next tour so James can really show off the pipes
I'm never sleeping in a teepee again - Father John Misty

CraftyCaleb2483

#284
July 30, 2024, 12:49:36 AM
Quote from: TheHoveringSojourn808 on July 29, 2024, 05:56:33 PMMaybe they'll play Raw Dog on the next tour so James can really show off the pipes
I've been hearing a lot about this 'Raw Dog', but I can't find it on any of their albums. What is it?
Quote from: twosuitsluke on October 14, 2024, 02:27:06 PMCaleb also has way better taste
Quote from: Evermind on March 30, 2025, 10:35:41 AMI'm gonna send 1) stuff that's too heavy 2) stuff that's too proggy 3) singers that sound like Freddie Mercury. Hope that sounds good.

Zydar

#285
July 30, 2024, 01:02:21 AM
Quote from: Caleb on July 30, 2024, 12:49:36 AMI've been hearing a lot about this 'Raw Dog', but I can't find it on any of their albums. What is it?
It's an instrumental track they recorded and released in 2010 for the video game EP "God Of War: Blood And Metal". It's the last track they recorded with MP before he left. 

Raw Dog | Dream Theater Wiki | Fandom

CraftyCaleb2483

#286
July 30, 2024, 01:11:27 AM
Quote from: Zydar on July 30, 2024, 01:02:21 AMIt's an instrumental track they recorded and released in 2010 for the video game EP "God Of War: Blood And Metal". It's the last track they recorded with MP before he left.

Raw Dog | Dream Theater Wiki | Fandom
Well, I gave it a listen, and can safely say that I hate it
Quote from: twosuitsluke on October 14, 2024, 02:27:06 PMCaleb also has way better taste
Quote from: Evermind on March 30, 2025, 10:35:41 AMI'm gonna send 1) stuff that's too heavy 2) stuff that's too proggy 3) singers that sound like Freddie Mercury. Hope that sounds good.

Dream Team

#287
July 30, 2024, 05:30:13 AM
Quote from: Caleb on July 30, 2024, 01:11:27 AMWell, I gave it a listen, and can safely say that I hate it

You have good taste then.

Dream Team

#288
July 30, 2024, 05:34:00 AM
Quote from: TheHoveringSojourn808 on July 29, 2024, 05:56:01 PMWhat?

He was referring to the general consensus amongst earth-bound folks.

CraftyCaleb2483

#289
July 30, 2024, 07:43:02 AM
Quote from: twosuitsluke on October 14, 2024, 02:27:06 PMCaleb also has way better taste
Quote from: Evermind on March 30, 2025, 10:35:41 AMI'm gonna send 1) stuff that's too heavy 2) stuff that's too proggy 3) singers that sound like Freddie Mercury. Hope that sounds good.

hefdaddy42

#290
July 30, 2024, 07:57:21 AM
Quote from: Caleb on July 30, 2024, 12:49:36 AMI've been hearing a lot about this 'Raw Dog'
I find that hard to believe.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Trav

#291
July 30, 2024, 09:53:55 AM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on July 30, 2024, 07:57:21 AMI find that hard to believe.

Most of us try to forget about it.

CraftyCaleb2483

#292
July 30, 2024, 10:40:16 AM
Quote from: Trav86 on July 30, 2024, 09:53:55 AMMost of us try to forget about it.
I can see why...
Quote from: twosuitsluke on October 14, 2024, 02:27:06 PMCaleb also has way better taste
Quote from: Evermind on March 30, 2025, 10:35:41 AMI'm gonna send 1) stuff that's too heavy 2) stuff that's too proggy 3) singers that sound like Freddie Mercury. Hope that sounds good.

TheHoveringSojourn808

#293
July 30, 2024, 12:24:46 PM
It's gonna be the opening song of the London show
I'm never sleeping in a teepee again - Father John Misty

Glasser

#294
July 30, 2024, 01:12:49 PM
Quote from: TheHoveringSojourn808 on July 29, 2024, 05:56:33 PMMaybe they'll play Raw Dog on the next tour so James can really show off the pipes

Maybe they'll just play Motorhead tunes. Iron Fist and Ace of Spades albums straight through.

TheHoveringSojourn808

#295
July 30, 2024, 03:52:23 PM
DT is known for covering albums in full. They've previously done Powerslave, Dark Side of the Moon, and some others. I could see them dusting off some Motorhead for the first show back
I'm never sleeping in a teepee again - Father John Misty

crystalstars17

#296
July 30, 2024, 05:04:08 PM
Quote from: TheHoveringSojourn808 on July 30, 2024, 03:52:23 PMDT is known for covering albums in full.They've previously done Powerslave, Dark Side of the Moon, and some others. I could see them dusting off some Motorhead for the first show back

If that really starts happening I would walk out and never buy another ticket.
The impossible is never out of reach

Trav

#297
July 30, 2024, 05:37:36 PM
Quote from: TheHoveringSojourn808 on July 30, 2024, 03:52:23 PMDT is known for covering albums in full. They've previously done Powerslave, Dark Side of the Moon, and some others. I could see them dusting off some Motorhead for the first show back

It wasn't Powerslave it was The Number of the Beast. If you could see them covering Motörhead, you should see an optometrist.

Trav

#298
July 30, 2024, 05:39:39 PM
Quote from: crystalstars17 on July 30, 2024, 05:04:08 PMIf that really starts happening I would walk out and never buy another ticket.

Same. When they were doing that before I thought it was so cool. I was also 19 and thought wine coolers were good.

Setlist Scotty

#299
July 30, 2024, 06:07:05 PM
Quote from: crystalstars17 on July 30, 2024, 05:04:08 PMIf that really starts happening I would walk out and never buy another ticket.
As has been said before, you will know ahead of time when this happens, assuming they resume this tradition - and thus far there's nothing to indicate that they will. Remember, it only happens when they do a two-night stand in a city on an Evening With tour, and it will be performed during the second set of the second night.

What does that mean?
• If they do a two-night stand and it's not an Evening With tour, no cover album.
• If they play a single show in a city on an Evening With tour, no cover album.
• If they happen to do a two-night stand on an Evening With tour? At least in the past, yes they did a cover album, but this was after they did a roughly 3-hour show the night before full of DT material and performed a first set on the second night (probably about 90 minutes) of mostly different DT material from the first night. Then, after the second set covering another band's album, they come back out and perform an encore. So out of about 5.5 to 6 hours of music played over the course of two nights, only about 40-55 minutes of that will be of a cover album. And you'll know ahead of time which night it is that they're covering it so that you can skip that show, if you're that repulsed by the idea.

So no need to get bent out of shape over this, assuming it even happens again.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

TAC

#300
July 30, 2024, 06:08:55 PM
I always thought it was a cool thing they did.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

brakkum

#301
July 30, 2024, 06:13:51 PM
Quote from: Setlist Scotty on July 30, 2024, 06:07:05 PMSo no need to get bent out of shape over this, assuming it even happens again.

I think the sentiment was more if they did this unannounced on their first show back. Which, as you said, is an impossibility. (obviously)

crystalstars17

#302
July 30, 2024, 06:24:39 PM
Quote from: brakkum on July 30, 2024, 06:13:51 PMI think the sentiment was more if they did this unannounced on their first show back. Which, as you said, is an impossibility. (obviously)

Right, exactly, if they did this unannounced. At any show. Because it wouldn't be so much "getting bent out of shape" as it would be about not getting what I paid for (DT music live) but instead wasting the audience's time. It would be a waste of my time and my ticket purchase to sit through some other band's whole album that I don't even like. I'm sure I'm not the only fan around who would see it that way.

But if that's not how it would be handled then there's no point in my worrying about what I would do with that unwanted 40-50 minutes.
The impossible is never out of reach

TheHoveringSojourn808

#303
July 30, 2024, 07:37:52 PM
Quote from: Trav86 on July 30, 2024, 05:37:36 PMIt wasn't Powerslave it was The Number of the Beast. If you could see them covering Motörhead, you should see an optometrist.

Ah right thank you, I always confuse those two Maiden albums haha

Also, I wouldn't see it, because I probably wouldn't get Two Evening With Shows in my city on any given tour, which is what I believe they go by when determining it. But i would hear it on a Mike P ortnoy bootleg  :police:
I'm never sleeping in a teepee again - Father John Misty

TheHoveringSojourn808

#304
July 30, 2024, 07:38:53 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 30, 2024, 06:08:55 PMI always thought it was a cool thing they did.

Maybe they can do a covers night of The Mandrake Project featuring the man himself
I'm never sleeping in a teepee again - Father John Misty

hefdaddy42

#305
July 31, 2024, 06:38:17 AM
Quote from: TheHoveringSojourn808 on July 30, 2024, 03:52:23 PMDT is known for covering albums in full. They've previously done Powerslave, Dark Side of the Moon, and some others. I could see them dusting off some Motorhead for the first show back
The fuck are you talking about
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

CraftyCaleb2483

#307
July 31, 2024, 07:26:28 AM
Quote from: TheHoveringSojourn808 on July 30, 2024, 12:24:46 PMIt's gonna be the opening song of the London show
I hope not, I'm going to be there!
Quote from: twosuitsluke on October 14, 2024, 02:27:06 PMCaleb also has way better taste
Quote from: Evermind on March 30, 2025, 10:35:41 AMI'm gonna send 1) stuff that's too heavy 2) stuff that's too proggy 3) singers that sound like Freddie Mercury. Hope that sounds good.

TheHoveringSojourn808

#308
July 31, 2024, 07:44:21 AM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on July 31, 2024, 06:38:17 AMThe fuck are you talking about

Just vibin'
I'm never sleeping in a teepee again - Father John Misty

KevShmev

#309
July 31, 2024, 07:51:05 AM
I think the opener of the London show is clearly going to be a cover of Debbie Gibson's Staying Together, which they will punctuate with James and Mike hugging it out at the end of the song.

CraftyCaleb2483

#310
July 31, 2024, 07:58:03 AM
Quote from: KevShmev on July 31, 2024, 07:51:05 AMI think the opener of the London show is clearly going to be a cover of Debbie Gibson's Staying Together, which they will punctuate with James and Mike hugging it out at the end of the song.
*Dies
Quote from: twosuitsluke on October 14, 2024, 02:27:06 PMCaleb also has way better taste
Quote from: Evermind on March 30, 2025, 10:35:41 AMI'm gonna send 1) stuff that's too heavy 2) stuff that's too proggy 3) singers that sound like Freddie Mercury. Hope that sounds good.

brakkum

#311
July 31, 2024, 07:58:36 AM
I was really hoping for Dancing Queen

hefdaddy42

#312
July 31, 2024, 09:04:05 AM
Quote from: KevShmev on July 31, 2024, 07:51:05 AMI think the opener of the London show is clearly going to be a cover of Debbie Gibson's Staying Together, which they will punctuate with James and Mike hugging it out at the end of the song.
Honestly, I'd be OK with that.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Stadler

#313
July 31, 2024, 09:30:46 AM
Actually, the song played over the PA before they take the stage should be "Join Together" by The Who.  I'm not joking even a little bit.

When you hear this sound a-comin'
Hear the drummer drumming
Won't you join together with the band
We don't move in any 'ticular direction
And we don't make no collections
Won't you join together with the band
Do you really think I care
What you eat or what you wear
Won't you join together with the band
There's a million ways to laugh
Ev'ry one's a path
Come on and join together with the band
Everybody join together
Won't you join together
Come on and join together with the band
We need to join together
Come on join together
Come on and join together with the band
You don't have to play
You can follow or lead the way
Oh won't you join together with the band
We don't know where we're going
But the season's right for knowing
Oh won't you join together with the band
It's the singer not the song
That makes the music move along
Oh won't you join together with the band
This is the biggest band you'll find
It's as deep as it is wide
Come on and join together with the band
Join together
(Ev'rybody come on) join together
Join together with the band
Join together
(Ev'rybody come on) join together
Join together with the band

gborland

#314
July 31, 2024, 09:41:54 AM
Quote from: Stadler on July 31, 2024, 09:30:46 AMActually, the song played over the PA before they take the stage should be "Join Together" by The Who.  I'm not joking even a little bit.

Nah it'll be Rooster
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