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Dream Theater Top 100 countdown - 2024 Version! (#01 Up!)

Started by ReaperKK, December 12, 2023, 04:48:12 PM

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Setlist Scotty

nevermind - MirrorMask and jingle.boy beat me to it. That's what I get for not reading through the whole thread before posting.  :facepalm:
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

ReaperKK

Quote from: jingle.boy on December 30, 2023, 04:05:25 AM
Not to put any more work on Reaper, but there are some things I'm curious to know once all the lists are in and tabulated.  And I've not followed one of these Top 100 DT countdowns in the past, so I don't know what data Kev shared.

How many songs didn't make a single list.
How many songs made everyone's list.
What will be the longest accuracy streak at the top of the list.  Like, I can see my list being in sync with the top 2 songs, but no further.  Might someone be perfectly aligned in the top 8?  Top 10?  More?
Did anyone's #1 not even make the Top 100?



These are good stats, once I get all the lists in I'll try to figure them out. I have some of my own stats I'll post once the list is complete :)

MoraWintersoul

I wanted to give the whole discography a relisten but I've been so busy and out of it that this list will have to be done from memory, today :yarr Removed all the songs that I know for sure aren't making it in and now I'm diving into 471 comparisons.

Stadler

Quote from: jingle.boy on December 30, 2023, 04:05:25 AM
Not to put any more work on Reaper, but there are some things I'm curious to know once all the lists are in and tabulated.  And I've not followed one of these Top 100 DT countdowns in the past, so I don't know what data Kev shared.

How many songs didn't make a single list.
How many songs made everyone's list.
What will be the longest accuracy streak at the top of the list.  Like, I can see my list being in sync with the top 2 songs, but no further.  Might someone be perfectly aligned in the top 8?  Top 10?  More?
Did anyone's #1 not even make the Top 100?

I will bet you a beer - I'm being serious - that my #1 will not make the top 100 (unless it's ONLY because I had it at number 1), and there's a very, very strong chance that a very beloved - dare I say "iconic" - DT song will not make the "everyone's list" category because of me.

TAC

Quote from: Stadler on December 30, 2023, 11:38:54 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on December 30, 2023, 04:05:25 AM
Not to put any more work on Reaper, but there are some things I'm curious to know once all the lists are in and tabulated.  And I've not followed one of these Top 100 DT countdowns in the past, so I don't know what data Kev shared.

How many songs didn't make a single list.
How many songs made everyone's list.
What will be the longest accuracy streak at the top of the list.  Like, I can see my list being in sync with the top 2 songs, but no further.  Might someone be perfectly aligned in the top 8?  Top 10?  More?
Did anyone's #1 not even make the Top 100?

I will bet you a beer - I'm being serious - that my #1 will not make the top 100 (unless it's ONLY because I had it at number 1), and there's a very, very strong chance that a very beloved - dare I say "iconic" - DT song will not make the "everyone's list" category because of me.

We assume all of this anyway, Stads. ;D
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

wolfking

Quote from: jingle.boy on December 30, 2023, 05:13:15 AM
Quote from: MirrorMask on December 30, 2023, 05:08:53 AM
Quote from: Podaar on December 30, 2023, 04:54:31 AM
Quote from: NoFred on December 29, 2023, 07:41:44 PM
Breakdown:
-5 and 6 are the same song, different drummer
-14 and 15 are the same song, different drummer

Looks like someone's list will be rejected for not following the rules. You were to rank the official list at the front of this thread. It contains no duplicates.

Either that, or he's talking about Breaking All Illusions / Learning to Live and Pull Me Under / On the Back of Angels.

I was thinking something along these lines as well.

I immediately thought this is what he meant too.  Or Glass Moon and LNF.

Setlist Scotty

Quote from: Stadler on December 30, 2023, 11:38:54 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on December 30, 2023, 04:05:25 AM
Not to put any more work on Reaper, but there are some things I'm curious to know once all the lists are in and tabulated.  And I've not followed one of these Top 100 DT countdowns in the past, so I don't know what data Kev shared.

How many songs didn't make a single list.
How many songs made everyone's list.
What will be the longest accuracy streak at the top of the list.  Like, I can see my list being in sync with the top 2 songs, but no further.  Might someone be perfectly aligned in the top 8?  Top 10?  More?
Did anyone's #1 not even make the Top 100?

I will bet you a beer - I'm being serious - that my #1 will not make the top 100 (unless it's ONLY because I had it at number 1), and there's a very, very strong chance that a very beloved - dare I say "iconic" - DT song will not make the "everyone's list" category because of me.
So CME is number 1 and Metropolis or PMU didn't make your list?
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

JiM-Xtreme

List submitted... my god, was that tough. I went to the bitter end using the Ranking Engine method as I really wanted to make sure I did this properly. Song-by-song comparisons all the way... spending a disproportionate amount of time trying to work out which NOMAC tracks I can tolerate above others... and all the time doubting myself. So many of these songs have moments that just elevate them, but are perhaps not so consistently enjoyable to me as others, or feel a bit less cohesive. Some are more suited for particular moods, times of day and energy levels than others. The songs which are fresher and more exciting to me today will not necessarily stand the test of time, surpassing the established "classics" which I have listened to death over the past two decades. For all these reasons I found it so difficult to order them into a simple numerical list... so in the end, I tried to base my decisions on the songs which have had the greatest overall impact on me over the period of time I have been a fan.

Looking forward to seeing some results in the coming days  :tup

jammindude

So here's what I've done.

My original list had 163 songs.  I was happy with the top 40, but hated everything after.  So I took 41-140 and put it through the ranker again...and again I was happy with THAT top 40, but the rest still didn't look right. So I took 41-80 off that list and put those through the ranker AGAIN, and took the top 20 from that list to create the bottom 20 of my final list.

I believe I have something I can work with.

I will compile and turn it in tomorrow afternoon.

Revenge319

Quote from: Revenge319 on December 27, 2023, 11:47:58 PM
For the first time ever, ACoS is in a slightly vulnerable position, but if it somehow manages to not be my #1, the lowest it could possibly get on my whole list is #3.

Well, that's probably the biggest fail I've posted on this forum. Although to be fair, I did say right after that there was no need for concern. But yeah, another ranking goes by and my Top 2 Dream Theater songs are locked in place. Probably still my two favorite songs of all time, though I suppose now's as good a time as any to see if any of my other all-time favorites have a chance of surpassing either one of these songs. But back to the Dream Theater Top 100 ranking...

All the songs are now on the list. I will see if there's any noticeable problems with my order, then I'll put the Top 100 through the ranking engine for good measure, compare those two lists, make any final adjustments, and then I can finally send it!

Puppies_On_Acid

Quote from: Revenge319 on December 30, 2023, 09:46:41 PM
Quote from: Revenge319 on December 27, 2023, 11:47:58 PM
For the first time ever, ACoS is in a slightly vulnerable position, but if it somehow manages to not be my #1, the lowest it could possibly get on my whole list is #3.

Well, that's probably the biggest fail I've posted on this forum. Although to be fair, I did say right after that there was no need for concern. But yeah, another ranking goes by and my Top 2 Dream Theater songs are locked in place. Probably still my two favorite songs of all time, though I suppose now's as good a time as any to see if any of my other all-time favorites have a chance of surpassing either one of these songs. But back to the Dream Theater Top 100 ranking...

All the songs are now on the list. I will see if there's any noticeable problems with my order, then I'll put the Top 100 through the ranking engine for good measure, compare those two lists, make any final adjustments, and then I can finally send it!
Tomorrow is the due date.....Better be quick!
Quote from: Evermind on May 06, 2024, 07:39:06 AMHey Stadler, your inbox is full.
Quote from: Cool Chris on December 27, 2024, 08:23:15 PMCarry On. Except for Tim.
Quote from: Drunk TACThes sng is are sounds rally nece an I lyke tha sungar

WardySI

List sent ;D

That was some work, but a huge amount of fun revisiting a lot of DT I've not heard in a while and a few weeks digging through a couple newbies too!  Think I snuck in a few hours before the NY here Down Under Happy New Year folks.

Gotta love this band! :metal

Evermind

Put the songs through the ranker and just going with what it gave me back. There are some questionable choices in the Top 20 but mostly it looks alright so I'm just going with it. :lol

List sent!
Quote from: Train of Naught on May 28, 2020, 10:57:25 PMThis first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

MustActFastToCoverUp

Fine tuning done, list sent, and I'm overall happy with it.
Hope you all have a good start into the new year!

Awaken


WardySI

Quote from: Evermind on December 31, 2023, 01:17:13 AM
Put the songs through the ranker and just going with what it gave me back. There are some questionable choices in the Top 20 but mostly it looks alright so I'm just going with it. :lol

List sent!

Yeah after stewing over this for couple weeks also ended up going with the ranker and already note one ommision am peeved about LOL but for the most part looking at say top 25 rather happy with it  :metal

twosuitsluke

Quote from: TAC on December 30, 2023, 11:52:23 AM
Quote from: Stadler on December 30, 2023, 11:38:54 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on December 30, 2023, 04:05:25 AM
Not to put any more work on Reaper, but there are some things I'm curious to know once all the lists are in and tabulated.  And I've not followed one of these Top 100 DT countdowns in the past, so I don't know what data Kev shared.

How many songs didn't make a single list.
How many songs made everyone's list.
What will be the longest accuracy streak at the top of the list.  Like, I can see my list being in sync with the top 2 songs, but no further.  Might someone be perfectly aligned in the top 8?  Top 10?  More?
Did anyone's #1 not even make the Top 100?

I will bet you a beer - I'm being serious - that my #1 will not make the top 100 (unless it's ONLY because I had it at number 1), and there's a very, very strong chance that a very beloved - dare I say "iconic" - DT song will not make the "everyone's list" category because of me.

We assume all of this anyway, Stads. ;D

Yea, the most shocking result would be your list looking anything other than the final list in reverse.

geeeemo

My list is sent. This was fun. I spent some extra time with records I hadn't listened to as many times as others. I found more to love.

Revenge319

Sent!
I got halfway through the ranking engine before starting to feel like this was going to be very inaccurate to my current list, so I scrapped that idea, looked over my list and made one final change before sending. My process for ranking was simple: Start from the beginning at WDADU and listen in chronological order, rank each album as they're finished, then add each album's songs to the overall ranking as I go. I do suspect this method could be why my newest list feels a little off, but it could also just be that some songs got to rank higher for the first time, and some that I used to rank very high fell down significantly. Our New World made to the Top 100 this time, and Repentance fell off nearly 30 spots from my last list.


MinistroRaven


pg1067

Is there still time to submit?  Not sure in what time zone the cutoff is.

Puppies_On_Acid

Quote from: pg1067 on December 31, 2023, 01:29:01 PM
Is there still time to submit?  Not sure in what time zone the cutoff is.
I would imagine so. I believe cutoff is end of day EST. Could be wrong though...
Quote from: Evermind on May 06, 2024, 07:39:06 AMHey Stadler, your inbox is full.
Quote from: Cool Chris on December 27, 2024, 08:23:15 PMCarry On. Except for Tim.
Quote from: Drunk TACThes sng is are sounds rally nece an I lyke tha sungar

jammindude

Final album tally:

WDADU - 6
IAW - 8
Awake - 10
FII - 9
SFAM - 9
SDOIT - 5
TOT - 7
8V - 8
SC - 1
BCSL - 2
ADTOE - 7
DT - 8
TA - 3
D/T - 5
AVFTTOTW - 5

Other - 7

Portnoy era got 72, Mangini era got 28

Revenge319

Here's my album breakdown:

WDADU - 3
I&W - 6
Awake - 8
FII - 6
SFAM - 8
SDOIT - 6
TOT - 6
Octavarium - 6
SC - 5
BC&SL - 6
ADTOE - 6
DT12 - 5
TA - 15
DOT - 9
AVFTTOTW - 4
Non-album tracks - 1


Sorting by eras:

MP - 61
MM - 39

KM - 17
DS - 7
JR - 76

Distance Over Time and View were both very close to having all songs featured in my Top 100. My lowest for DOT was #103, for View it was #109.

ReaperKK

Quote from: pg1067 on December 31, 2023, 01:29:01 PM
Is there still time to submit?  Not sure in what time zone the cutoff is.

You got time, you can submit tomorrow too, but keep that on the down low. I plan on starting the count down around the 5th.

Puppies_On_Acid

Quote from: ReaperKK on December 31, 2023, 02:27:11 PM
Quote from: pg1067 on December 31, 2023, 01:29:01 PM
Is there still time to submit?  Not sure in what time zone the cutoff is.

You got time, you can submit tomorrow too, but keep that on the down low. I plan on starting the count down around the 5th.
:neverusethis:
Quote from: Evermind on May 06, 2024, 07:39:06 AMHey Stadler, your inbox is full.
Quote from: Cool Chris on December 27, 2024, 08:23:15 PMCarry On. Except for Tim.
Quote from: Drunk TACThes sng is are sounds rally nece an I lyke tha sungar

pg1067

Quote from: ReaperKK on December 31, 2023, 02:27:11 PM
Quote from: pg1067 on December 31, 2023, 01:29:01 PM
Is there still time to submit?  Not sure in what time zone the cutoff is.

You got time, you can submit tomorrow too, but keep that on the down low. I plan on starting the count down around the 5th.

Rad.  I'll get it done later today or tomorrow.  Thanks!

romdrums

Sent!

Songs by Album:

WDADU- 7
I&W- 8
Awake- 11
FII- 7
SFAM- 9
SDOIT- 6
ToT- 7
8v- 5
SC- 3
BCSL- 2
ADTOE- 6
DT12- 2
The Astonishing- 2
D/T- 10
AVFTTOTW- 6

Non Album Tracks- 9



CanuckChum

Just sent my list, here is the album breakdown:

WDADU - 4
I&W - 8
Awake - 8
FII - 6
SFAM - 10
SDOIT - 5
TOT - 6
8VM - 7
SC - 4
BC&SL - 5
ADTOE - 8
DT12 - 5
TA - 9
D/T - 6
AVFTTOTV - 6
Other - 3

65 with Portnoy, 35 with Mangini

OpenYourEyes311

WDADU: 6
I&W: 8
Awake: 9
FII: 8
SFAM: 8
6DOIT: 4
TOT: 7
8V: 7
SC: 5
BC&SL: 4
ADTOE: 6
DT: 7
TA: 6
DOT: 4
AVFTTOTW: 1
Others: 10



MP: 76
MM: 24
JR: 59
DS: 14
KM: 27
JLB: 92
CD: 6
CC: 2
JP: 100
JM: 100

The Realm

I presume my list was received. Sent a couple of days ago and haven't received a confirmation.

jammindude


twosuitsluke

Quote from: ReaperKK on December 31, 2023, 02:27:11 PM
Quote from: pg1067 on December 31, 2023, 01:29:01 PM
Is there still time to submit?  Not sure in what time zone the cutoff is.

You got time, you can submit tomorrow too, but keep that on the down low. I plan on starting the count down around the 5th.

Roll on the 5th! Reap, are you planning to do multiple entries a day as you start this, or just one entry a day?

nobloodyname

QuoteI will start the countdown January 5th, I'll be doing 3 songs a day to start, move down to 2 songs once we reach around 30 left, and then 1 song a day for the top 10.

In the first post :lol