What is the HEAVIEST Dream Theater song?

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WildRanger

Which DT song you find to be heaviest and most aggressive (riffs-wise and rhythm-wise)?

nikatapi

The Dark Eternal Night is definitely the heaviest.

MirrorMask

Quote from: nikatapi on March 19, 2021, 03:33:37 AM
The Dark Eternal Night is definitely the heaviest.

That, but I prefer The Mirror. The riff is so simple, basically a single note, but it's a punch in the face, especially when the drums kick in.

hefdaddy42

The Glass Prison is the heaviest DT song.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Zydar

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on March 19, 2021, 06:04:34 AM
The Glass Prison is the heaviest DT song.

Yeah that was the first song I thought of.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: Zydar on March 19, 2021, 06:06:44 AM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on March 19, 2021, 06:04:34 AM
The Glass Prison is the heaviest DT song.

Yeah that was the first song I thought of.
That's because you are a man of rare insight and perspicuity.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Mladen

I could actually go all the way back to Awake and select The Mirror, but they have indeed made plenty of heavy songs in the new millenium. The Glass prison, This dying soul, The Dark eternal night and A Nightmare to remember are among the first ones that come to my mind.

Chino


lucasembarbosa


Zydar

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on March 19, 2021, 06:07:42 AM
Quote from: Zydar on March 19, 2021, 06:06:44 AM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on March 19, 2021, 06:04:34 AM
The Glass Prison is the heaviest DT song.

Yeah that was the first song I thought of.
That's because you are a man of rare insight and perspicuity.

:zydar:

Mladen

Quote from: Chino on March 19, 2021, 06:24:50 AM
Honor Thy Father?
I thought about this one as well, but went with This dying soul instead. Honor thy father is fairly heavy, but in terms of tempo, it is fairly straightforward. What puts This dying soul on the top are the shifts in tempo that add to the heaviness quite a bit.

JiM-Xtreme

There are a number of contenders, but for me This Dying Soul is the one that stands out.

One of the few of their songs which is unrelentingly and one-dimensionally (in a good way) heavy, from the word go. Straight in with the double-bass and it just builds from there, with the dark, aggressive and percussive vocals, and the riffs, solos and fills just keep getting heavy and crazier right up until the climax of the song, with that insane unison at the end.

TGP is also a contender of course, but even that has more melodic parts than TDS, as it seems that with TDS they really tried to push the heaviness aspect even further (which was the intend behind Train of Thought as a whole, of course).

Enigmachine

Also worth noting some MM era tracks here:

-Bridges in the Sky with that grinding palm muting in the second verse, as well as its tense, spidery riffwork in general
-The Enemy Inside has arguably the most sonically intense first minute out of any DT song, with that Nevermore esque flurry of notes being complemented by dense fills
-Enigma Machine just hits you like a brick when those first chords come in and then it holds on that deep groove
-Illumination Theory plays with the lowest tuning that the band have ever had and it has its effect on the song, giving it this really immersive and grandiose wall of sound that gives it that extra kick
-A lot of Distance Over Time could qualify for simply the way its mixed (the crushing endings of Untethered Angel and S2N being notable), but Room 137 has that really sharp tension and release in its main riff, bolstered by the odd time signature and tom-heavy beat, while Pale Blue Dot's instrumental section sounds absolutely blistering with the album's powerful mix

hunnus2000

It depends on what one considers heavy. The first one that came to mind was The Enemy Inside but if you're including vocals then Lie comes to mind.

TheCountOfNYC

Beneath the Surface.

Nah but in all seriousness, I would say it's between Lie, The Glass Prison, This Dying Soul, Panic Attack, and The Dark Eternal Night, but I'm leaning towards The Glass Prison.
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gzarruk

The Dark Eternal Night and A Nightmare to Remember are the ones that came to mind first.

Ben_Jamin

Room 137

The Riffs, The lyrics, The vocal melodies, are all there.

Zydar

Now which is the LYRICALLY heaviest song? And what constitutes a heavy lyric?

Architeuthis


CDrice

The heaviest one is objectively Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence as it weighs half of a full CD.

Lonk

Quote from: CDrice on March 19, 2021, 11:00:03 AM
The heaviest one is objectively Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence as it weighs half of a full CD.
:tup

hefdaddy42

Quote from: CDrice on March 19, 2021, 11:00:03 AM
The heaviest one is objectively Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence as it weighs half of a full CD.

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

kirksnosehair

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on March 19, 2021, 06:04:34 AM
The Glass Prison is the heaviest DT song.


"This Dying Soul"  is a contender too I think






Elite

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emtee

The Mirror
The Glass Prison
Honor Thy Father

WilliamMunny

For me, their most relentlessly heavy piece of music is "Panic Attack"

Man, Octavarium is such a brilliantly diverse record.

Chino

Quote from: CDrice on March 19, 2021, 11:00:03 AM
The heaviest one is objectively Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence as it weighs half of a full CD.


TM172003

Quote from: gzarruk on March 19, 2021, 09:27:06 AM
The Dark Eternal Night and A Nightmare to Remember are the ones that came to mind first.
Same for me.

Lupton


hunnus2000

Quote from: WilliamMunny on March 19, 2021, 01:07:50 PM
For me, their most relentlessly heavy piece of music is "Panic Attack"

Man, Octavarium is such a brilliantly diverse record.

Oooooh - good one!

One of my favs!!   :metal



wolfking


TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

devieira73

Quote from: JiM-Xtreme on March 19, 2021, 06:56:47 AM
There are a number of contenders, but for me This Dying Soul is the one that stands out.

One of the few of their songs which is unrelentingly and one-dimensionally (in a good way) heavy, from the word go. Straight in with the double-bass and it just builds from there, with the dark, aggressive and percussive vocals, and the riffs, solos and fills just keep getting heavy and crazier right up until the climax of the song, with that insane unison at the end.


Perfect analysis and it's my choice too  :metal

devieira73

Quote from: Zydar on March 19, 2021, 09:48:41 AM
Now which is the LYRICALLY heaviest song? And what constitutes a heavy lyric?

Honor Thy Father to me. It's really really heavy to have those feelings towards someone so close in the family.