The Rudess Experiment - VIDEO - 9-9-1994

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gmillerdrake

Ran across the video linked below last night. It was Dream Theater performing at the Concrete Foundations Forum in Burbank, CA on September 9, 1994.  The description says that "This was the first show with Jordan Rudess as a temporary replacement (he wasn't able to commit to DT yet and did not become a full member of the band until 1998"

I remember reading about this concert in the Lifting Shadows book but hadn't seen (or heard) any of the footage. JLB is ON FIRE in this!!! Anyway.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpEx7pDIq8A

devieira73

Quote from: gmillerdrake on August 04, 2020, 03:48:58 PM
Ran across the video linked below last night. It was Dream Theater performing at the Concrete Foundations Forum in Burbank, CA on September 9, 1994.  The description says that "This was the first show with Jordan Rudess as a temporary replacement (he wasn't able to commit to DT yet and did not become a full member of the band until 1998"

I remember reading about this concert in the Lifting Shadows book but hadn't seen (or heard) any of the footage. JLB is ON FIRE in this!!! Anyway.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpEx7pDIq8A

Very cool this footage, especially because of the sound quality. This show was right before James had that food poisoning that affected his voice.

Setlist Scotty

Quote from: devieira73 on August 05, 2020, 09:21:58 AM
This show was right before James had that food poisoning that affected his voice.
Well, not *right* before that incident. They also did the North American leg of the Waking Up the World tour before the incident, too. It was while he was on vacation before the Japanese leg that he got the food poisoning. While there's no soundboards in circulation from that leg, there are some great audience recordings as well as a radio broadcast from Denver, so there is other documentation of JL's performances from that time period.  :)
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

devieira73

Cool, I forgot about that American tour still in 94.

TAC

I taped the first two shows of that tour. The Berklee show was really cool. Those early shows included TOWHTSTS and Innocence Faded  before they were dropped.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

gmillerdrake

TOWHTSTS is one of my DT favorites. Really like that song

TAC

Quote from: gmillerdrake on August 05, 2020, 06:08:18 PM
TOWHTSTS is one of my DT favorites. Really like that song

They played it without keyboards. I guess they figured Derek had enough to learn, so they were played as a four piece.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

El Barto


TAC

Quote from: El Barto on August 07, 2020, 01:09:37 PM
God damn, it's Angus Myung.

:lol

He was pretty active back in the day. I would love some of that these days.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

ytserush

I don't think I ever saw this video. I've had the audio for almost 25 years but I don't think I ever found the video.

TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.


darkshade

Watched this last night. Makes you wonder 'what if?'

RaiseTheKnife

#13
Ah, the show where Yngwie set his guitar on fire before DT's set, causing the entire place to be evacuated and delayed the show. 

I have a homemade bootleg of this show with a different mix with the keyboards dominating the mix.  I think I downloaded it from Caught in a Worldwide Web back in 1998. EDIT:  Correction, I just pulled my old cassette and the mix is almost identical (since the stereo mix features the keys shifted heavily to the left speaker, my version was likely sourced from a computer that favored the left speaker).  The puzzling difference is that my cassette version is sped up almost a full step higher than originally recorded. 

Dedalus

It is strange to see JM and MP in this video and to compare how they behave on stage today.  :lol

Mebert78

Wow, JLB is a beast here.  That was a fun watch.  Thanks for sharing!
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MoraWintersoul

 Love this full show with Derek as well: Dream Theater - Live at the Warfield, San Francisco 1994

I put on Lie when I feel the metal need to break my neck headbanging to something.


gzarruk

Quote from: MoraWintersoul on September 30, 2020, 01:04:29 PM
Love this full show with Derek as well: Dream Theater - Live at the Warfield, San Francisco 1994

I put on Lie when I feel the metal need to break my neck headbanging to something.

To me, the Awake tour was the best era with Derek.

TAC

I honestly don't think I've ever seen the 94 Warfield show. I had the 93 show way back in the trading days.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

MoraWintersoul

Quote from: TAC on September 30, 2020, 06:26:28 PM
I honestly don't think I've ever seen the 94 Warfield show. I had the 93 show way back in the trading days.
Put it on when you have the time, it's lovely.

ytserush

Quote from: TAC on September 30, 2020, 06:26:28 PM
I honestly don't think I've ever seen the 94 Warfield show. I had the 93 show way back in the trading days.

Think I only have a handful of shows between '94 and '98. Wasn't my favorite live era of the band in general although there were some "especially special" shows during this period which I needed to get.

Cool Chris

Am I in the minority here thinking those screams of James from this era are just.... not pleasing to the ear?
Maybe the grass is greener on the other side because you're not over there fucking it up.

PetFish

I really miss the live jams.

I love the ones that are embedded within a song that add a new twist over the standalone jams but they're all fun.

MoraWintersoul

Quote from: Cool Chris on October 03, 2020, 04:27:39 PM
Am I in the minority here thinking those screams of James from this era are just.... not pleasing to the ear?
I like 'em most of the time, but I'm a metal person :angel:

Eldomm

Quote from: Cool Chris on October 03, 2020, 04:27:39 PM
Am I in the minority here thinking those screams of James from this era are just.... not pleasing to the ear?
I am with you, I never liked him screaming like that.

don_waka


Orbert

Wow, that video takes me back.  This is the band I fell in love with back in the 90's.

ytserush

Quote from: Cool Chris on October 03, 2020, 04:27:39 PM
Am I in the minority here thinking those screams of James from this era are just.... not pleasing to the ear?

Never liked them either. Also wasn't a fan of the twirling hair from that period.

ytserush

Quote from: PetFish on October 03, 2020, 09:32:16 PM
I really miss the live jams.

I love the ones that are embedded within a song that add a new twist over the standalone jams but they're all fun.

Always looked forward to those myself.