DT15: A View From The Top Of The World (Timeline for DT15)

[dparrott]

Wow that's refreshing

" The New Album? Same old Pub Rock Bollocks. I'd give it 8 out of 10. There's two shit songs on it ".


- Noel Gallagher about Standing on The Shoulder of Giants.

And he admitted their final album had two b-sides on it.  I agree.

[dparrott]

Besides, when was the last time you saw an artist say, "Yeah, well, we've done better before but this album should be OK, I guess."

That's usually what I say about later DT albums.

[Kotowboy]

Wow that's refreshing

" The New Album? Same old Pub Rock Bollocks. I'd give it 8 out of 10. There's two shit songs on it ".


- Noel Gallagher about Standing on The Shoulder of Giants.

And he admitted their final album had two b-sides on it.  I agree.

Their final two albums were both great. I'm glad they didn't split up after Giants. That would have been a shame.

But yeah Noels 7 songs on Dig Out your Soul are easily the best tracks on the album. I'm Outta Time is pretty good ( despite being co written with Gem allegedly )

But I totally agree that Soldier On and The Nature of Reality should have been left off. Still way better than Giants though.

[Super Dude]

Besides, when was the last time you saw an artist say, "Yeah, well, we've done better before but this album should be OK, I guess."

That's usually what I say about later DT albums.

Yeah, hard agree. I liked ADTOE well enough, but I haven't exactly been enamored with the DT catalogue since the self-titled.

[Kotowboy]

They haven't yet quite matched the magic of the Scenes - Octavarium era but all four Mangini albums so far have at least been "good".

Also they've never done their 'St Anger' where it's that one album that literally everyone regards as the sh*t one.

[kirksnosehair]

Also they've never done their 'St Anger' where it's that one album that literally everyone regards as the sh*t one.

The Astonishing called.  It's for you 

[Zydar]

I don't know, some people seem to like/love it.

[pg1067]

Yeah...TA is probably DT's most divisive album, rather than one that's universally panned.

[Enigmachine]

Agreed, it's more 50/50 (give or take like 10% either way) rather than St Anger, which has like 90% hatred, 7% thinking it's not as bad as others think and bout 3% more who think it's a kind of cult classic.

[kirksnosehair]

I was being sarcastic.  I actually don't think it's a "bad" album.  It's just not my cup of tea.  I'm not one of those people who thinks it's just garbage.  There's actually a few really good songs scattered across those two discs.


If they could have culled it down to one disc of the best material I probably would have liked it and listened to it a lot more.

[hunnus2000]

I was being sarcastic.  I actually don't think it's a "bad" album.  It's just not my cup of tea.  I'm not one of those people who thinks it's just garbage.  There's actually a few really good songs scattered across those two discs.


If they could have culled it down to one disc of the best material I probably would have liked it and listened to it a lot more.

Wow - you could have done this years ago. You could do it now and possibly have a different opinion about the album.

[the_silent_man]

Yeah, but then that wouldn't give you an accurate view of the full album.

[Cool Chris]

I was being sarcastic.  I actually don't think it's a "bad" album.  It's just not my cup of tea.  I'm not one of those people who thinks it's just garbage.  There's actually a few really good songs scattered across those two discs.


If they could have culled it down to one disc of the best material I probably would have liked it and listened to it a lot more.

Wow - you could have done this years ago. You could do it now and possibly have a different opinion about the album.

I always feel weird about doing something like this, and I cannot explain why. i guess I feel weird altering the art as it was created by the artist. I should accept it as it is. I shouldn't cut out half of Falling into Infinity because it blows, because what I then have isn't Falling into Infinity any longer.

[DoctorAction]

Yeah, the album already exists. If you edit the hell out of it, it's not the album anymore.

[Enigmachine]

I always feel weird about doing something like this, and I cannot explain why. i guess I feel weird altering the art as it was created by the artist. I should accept it as it is. I shouldn't cut out half of Falling into Infinity because it blows, because what I then have isn't Falling into Infinity any longer.

As an album purist, I agree with this. It feels like skipping part of a film or something. The only instance where I'd feel comfortable missing out songs is if they're bonus tracks or something like Three Minute Warning.

[Super Dude]

I was being sarcastic.  I actually don't think it's a "bad" album.  It's just not my cup of tea.  I'm not one of those people who thinks it's just garbage.  There's actually a few really good songs scattered across those two discs.


If they could have culled it down to one disc of the best material I probably would have liked it and listened to it a lot more.

Wow - you could have done this years ago. You could do it now and possibly have a different opinion about the album.

I always feel weird about doing something like this, and I cannot explain why. i guess I feel weird altering the art as it was created by the artist. I should accept it as it is. I shouldn't cut out half of Falling into Infinity because it blows, because what I then have isn't Falling into Infinity any longer.

You also shouldn't do that because FII is awesome.

[WilliamMunny]

I was being sarcastic.  I actually don't think it's a "bad" album.  It's just not my cup of tea.  I'm not one of those people who thinks it's just garbage.  There's actually a few really good songs scattered across those two discs.


If they could have culled it down to one disc of the best material I probably would have liked it and listened to it a lot more.

Wow - you could have done this years ago. You could do it now and possibly have a different opinion about the album.

I always feel weird about doing something like this, and I cannot explain why. i guess I feel weird altering the art as it was created by the artist. I should accept it as it is. I shouldn't cut out half of Falling into Infinity because it blows, because what I then have isn't Falling into Infinity any longer.

You also shouldn't do that because FII is awesome.

Lol. Totally agree. But, in my opinion, life is far too short to sit through music you don't dig. You bought the record with your hard-earned cash, and if you want to rearrange the track listing or dump half of it into a playlist, why feel bad about it?

As an artist, I'm a huge beleiver in the idea that art is at its best when it's NOT treated like a sacred cow. It should be lived, and experienced. But then again, I'm the guy that buys rare toys, rips open the packageing and plays with them. Dudes with rooms full of boxed toys confuse me

[Cool Chris]

Lol. Totally agree. But, in my opinion, life is far too short to sit through music you don't dig. You bought the record with your hard-earned cash, and if you want to rearrange the track listing or dump half of it into a playlist, why feel bad about it?

Definitely agree with that as well. Music on an album is just structured to listen to differently than one would watch a film, or read a novel. I guess one could edit Memento to make it chronological if they enjoyed it more in that manner, but it would take much more time and effort than altering the order of songs on a CD.

I am being a bit hypocritical too as I did a little tweaking with my favorite album of all time, The Wall, and I never really thought twice about it.

Dudes with rooms full of boxed toys confuse me

It is the investment. There is no emotional attachment. It doesn't matter what they are, toys, baseball cards, coins, etc...

[WilliamMunny]

Lol. Totally agree. But, in my opinion, life is far too short to sit through music you don't dig. You bought the record with your hard-earned cash, and if you want to rearrange the track listing or dump half of it into a playlist, why feel bad about it?

Definitely agree with that as well. Music on an album is just structured to listen to differently than one would watch a film, or read a novel. I guess one could edit Memento to make it chronological if they enjoyed it more in that manner, but it would take much more time and effort than altering the order of songs on a CD.

I am being a bit hypocritical too as I did a little tweaking with my favorite album of all time, The Wall, and I never really thought twice about it.

Dudes with rooms full of boxed toys confuse me

It is the investment. There is no emotional attachment. It doesn't matter what they are, toys, baseball cards, coins, etc...

I get the 'investment' thing for sure—I think I was more just illustrating the point that I am incapable of collecting stuff becuase I could never stop myself from playing with it

[gzarruk]

I had a weird dream last night that DT had just released their new single and were already playing it live. In my dream, I was so busy I was waiting for later in the day to listen to it, but that never happened

[Architeuthis]

I had a weird dream last night that DT had just released their new single and were already playing it live. In my dream, I was so busy I was waiting for later in the day to listen to it, but that never happened

I understand, dreams always take such a weird direction.   
I had a dream a while back I was hanging out with JP and showing him some of the music that I wrote, and he was digging it. Lol! 
I'm lucky if I can even get my friends to listen in real life.

[TAC]

I was being sarcastic.  I actually don't think it's a "bad" album.  It's just not my cup of tea.  I'm not one of those people who thinks it's just garbage.  There's actually a few really good songs scattered across those two discs.


If they could have culled it down to one disc of the best material I probably would have liked it and listened to it a lot more.

I'd put my Astonishing Abridged up against pretty much any other DT album.

[Max Kuehnau]

Ok bruvs, this just in: Mike mentions that "time consuming work with DT" will resume in May (https://www.facebook.com/MikeMangini/posts/309637230525751), so my guess is that the promo cycle may be initiated then.

[jonny108]

James interview (1:11:29) talks a bit about the new album and upcoming schedule.  He's also very excited about it, he is going to NY in a few weeks to do the big photoshoot and video for the first 'single'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuxETd-iFm0

[Max Kuehnau]

James interview (1:11:29) talks a bit about the new album and upcoming schedule.  He's also very excited about it, he is going to NY in a few weeks to do the big photoshoot and video for the first 'single'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuxETd-iFm0

ah so I was right apparently. Good. Good.

[IDontNotDoThings]

James interview (1:11:29) talks a bit about the new album and upcoming schedule.  He's also very excited about it, he is going to NY in a few weeks to do the big photoshoot and video for the first 'single'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuxETd-iFm0

1:13:44 "& everybody says this: 'did you ever notice that every band when they talk about their new album they go 'oH mY GoD tHiS iS tHe MoSt InCrEdIbLe StUfF tHaT wEvE dOne''"

James has either been reading this thread or knows us too well

[Super Dude]

Holy hell he's looking really grey.

[Dream Team]

Well the band sure sounds super hyped.

[Architeuthis]

Holy hell he's looking really grey.

And he looks cool, he should embrace it. 
Great interview!

[Trav]

Holy hell he's looking really grey.

That looks way better than the jet black dyed look from the new live video.

[Raise the Drum]

should James leave his hair white/gray?
i think that he could rock those colors

and yes, that "ventablack" hair of previous years is a little off-putting

[TAC]

I agree.

[gzarruk]

I say, embrace it!

As for the latest updates, I'm excited! I think May will bring the first teaser and maybe a proper announcement towards the end of the month.

[nikatapi]

Seems like everyone's excited about the album.
And i believe both Mangini's increased involvement as started from D/T, as well as the fact they have their own studio, plus no real pressure for touring because of the pandemic, might have affected the way the album was created in a good way.

I'm getting hyped (not that i can help it), and what a great accomplishment this is for a band that has been around longer than me 

Also i really hope james keeps the grey hair (or at least doesn't dye them again to a pitch black color), he looks badass and way better in my eyes.

[Zydar]

Speaking of hair, I've noticed that JR has grown his out during the pandemic. I wonder if he will keep it that way, or shave his head as before.