DT15: A View From The Top Of The World (Timeline for DT15)

[MarkFitDT]

Not really impressed with the title.  No points for originality.  And the view?  All I see is a bunch of rock and boots that are way too big. 

All of this.

I must admit that im surprised by that 

[darkshade]

Looks cool now we just get to wait three more months shouldn't be too bad though I figure we'll get a single or two beforehand

Not really impressed with the title.  No points for originality.  And the view?  All I see is a bunch of rock and boots that are way too big. 

All of this.

Not that it's groundbreaking or anything but but not sure about the downer angle. Octavarium was a fake word and the album art was balls clacking over a field. Turns out in context it was evocative/appropriate and it's one of the more iconic DT covers/books because of the symbolism. Realistically we can't expect this to turn out the same but there's some cool imagery and the vibe is very peaceful with dark/myserious undertones. It's meant to go with a piece of music seems early to judge so harshly.

The spider on top of the boot is weird though thank god that isn't on the main cover

Don't worry. I've found DT's album art to be one of the least impressive aspects of their discography, aside from a few exceptions.
The only one I really like is Awake, but even that one is too busy. 8vm art was fine, but nothing to write home about. It fit the concept though.
Octavarium is still a cooler title than the new album's title.
The music is mostly all I care about, anyway. Doesn't change my agreement about the art and title coming off as lacking creativity or originality.
and the shoes.... the shoes! Totally sticks out, no depth perception.

If it makes you feel better, the new album's art is wayyyy better than DT12's

[Dedalus]

Not really impressed with the title.  No points for originality.  And the view?  All I see is a bunch of rock and boots that are way too big. 

All of this.

I must admit that im surprised by that 

[Dedalus]

The only problem with the title is that we will have to type AVFTTOTW forever.   

[geeeemo]

I love the all the art and the cover.  I get sick of seeing Eddies, skulls, and all manner of stuff I don't care to look at. This is interesting and much better than the D/T art. I find myself already thinking about the different songs and pictures. Which goes with what, what does it mean, etc. The red ball and the ant? What happened with the burning house? That boy covering his ears and all the rest in that pic. (which instantly reminds me of what my 20 y/o son is going through with Generalized Anxiety Disorder and Major Depression Disorder - that really is his life  )

I am super excited! I have 3 DT concerts on the way, and in addition, I wasn't around when the Christmas one came out that they just released in the Lost not Forgotten Archives, so I have been all over that and it's almost like new music.  All in all, some great DT excitement flowing here. 

[darkshade]

I think we can all agree, they could have a picture of a pile of horse manure as their album cover, and it would still be better than the album art for WDaDU.

[The Letter M]

Somebody may have already posted this (lot's of chatter) but ADTOE and AVFTTOTW have the same cadence and syllables. 8

Coincidence?

"dramatic turn" and "view from the top" don't have the same cadence at all.

I hear "A Dramatic Turn Of Events" as a two-note pick-up of "A Dra-" with the downbeat on "Ma", going into 5-beat measure of "-matic Turn Of E-" and landing on a downbeat of "-vents", whereas "A View From The Top Of The World" just has "A" as a pick-up into the downbeat of "View", where it rolls off in two triplets (or a 6/8 measure) ending on "World" as another downbeat.

-Marc.

I'd include "Top" as a downbeat too, but apart from that I agree.

Even Dream Theater's album titles are highly technical!

I did think about that after I posted it. It's very fun to say, rhythmically speaking. "A View From The Top Of The World".

The only problem with the title is that we will have to type AVFTTOTW forever.   

I suggest that we shorten the abbreviation to just AV and get on with it. Just gotta make sure no one tries to confuse it with 8V. 

-Marc.

[darkshade]

I love the all the art and the cover.  I get sick of seeing Eddies, skulls, and all manner of stuff I don't care to look at. This is interesting and much better than the D/T art. I find myself already thinking about the different songs and pictures. Which goes with what, what does it mean, etc. The red ball and the ant? What happened with the burning house? That boy covering his ears and all the rest in that pic. (which instantly reminds me of what my 20 y/o son is going through with Generalized Anxiety Disorder and Major Depression Disorder - that really is his life  )

I am super excited! I have 3 DT concerts on the way, and in addition, I wasn't around when the Christmas one came out that they just released in the Lost not Forgotten Archives, so I have been all over that and it's almost like new music.  All in all, some great DT excitement flowing here. 

There's a lot more to album art out there than what most metal bands put out. Leads me to believe most metal musicians have a narrow scope with their art, because they feel they HAVE to fall back on being, looking, and sounding as metal as possible. Even in prog metal.
Granted, DT's album art is some of the least metal looking album art, so I give them props for that, so in the context of metal, it's refreshing I suppose.

[darkshade]

I'll probably abbreviate it as AVF or TOTW, no way I'm going to use all the letters.

[IDontNotDoThings]

Has anyone else noticed that the track time for Invisible Monster in the announcement is different from the one in the promo videos? (6:02 in the vids, 6:31 in the announcement)

I'm wondering if this was just a typo or if they added a section to it between when the vids were made & now.

[darkshade]

Maybe it's a.... radio edit. 

I'll be here all week.

[The Letter M]

Has anyone else noticed that the track time for Invisible Monster in the announcement is different from the one in the promo videos? (6:02 in the vids, 6:31 in the announcement)

I'm wondering if this was just a typo or if they added a section to it between when the vids were made & now.

Perhaps noxon got preliminary information on track times for the teasers before the final album was finished mixing and mastering? Sometimes track times change in the final months even to the point that album artwork prints don't quite match the final product.

-Marc.

[gzarruk]

Has anyone else noticed that the track time for Invisible Monster in the announcement is different from the one in the promo videos? (6:02 in the vids, 6:31 in the announcement)

I'm wondering if this was just a typo or if they added a section to it between when the vids were made & now.

It was the invisible section...

[jsbru]

I am still very excited for the album, but I wasn't expecting late October :S. Oh well. And considering that we kinda already knew a lot of info, today's announcement with no single was a bit... meh? *insert Yoda saying Patience xD*

Yup.  That's how I feel.  Call me when there's a single!  This is just teasing me.

[Metro]

So with this album (not including the Christmas single), this lineup has recorded a total of 69 songs   

[jsbru]

I'll probably abbreviate it as AVF or TOTW, no way I'm going to use all the letters.

We should just decide now that the official abbreviation for it is "View."

[noxon]

My script included the correct time, the video editor goofed. If you look at the fifth video it has the correct time.

[The Letter M]

My script included the correct time, the video editor goofed. If you look at the fifth video it has the correct time.

Thanks for the clarification! So then we should expect the final album to have these legnths, and I'm assuming the double vinyl will be divided as such:
Side 1 (17:07)
1. The Alien (9:32)
2. Answering The Call (7:35)
Side 2 (16:36)
3. Invisible Monster (6:31)
4. Sleeping Giant (10:05)
Side 3 (16:12)
5. Transcending Time (6:25)
6. Awaken The Master (9:47)
Side 4 (20:24)
7. A View From The Top Of The World (20:24)
LP 1 - 33:43, LP 2 - 36:36
Total Length - 70:19

-Marc.

[darkshade]

So with this album (not including the Christmas single), this lineup has recorded a total of 69 songs   

You're counting the NOMAC tracks and tracks that don't feature all members performing?

[gzarruk]

So with this album (not including the Christmas single), this lineup has recorded a total of 69 songs   

I think you missed one, I counted 70.

ADTOE: 9
DT12: 9
TA: 34
D/T: 10
New album: 7
Holiday Spirit: 1

So with this album (not including the Christmas single), this lineup has recorded a total of 69 songs   

You're counting the NOMAC tracks and tracks that don't feature all members performing?

IIRC, Jordan recorded them with some of his tech.

[Metro]

So with this album (not including the Christmas single), this lineup has recorded a total of 69 songs   

I think you missed one, I counted 70.

ADTOE: 9
DT12: 9
TA: 34
D/T: 10
New album: 7
Holiday Spirit: 1

[darkshade]

So with this album (not including the Christmas single), this lineup has recorded a total of 69 songs   

I think you missed one, I counted 70.

ADTOE: 9
DT12: 9
TA: 34
D/T: 10
New album: 7
Holiday Spirit: 1

So with this album (not including the Christmas single), this lineup has recorded a total of 69 songs   

You're counting the NOMAC tracks and tracks that don't feature all members performing?

IIRC, Jordan recorded them with some of his tech.

Not counting the Xmas single means not counting the Xmas single.
One member recording something is not the whole band recording something.

What about the songs on ADTOE that have no drums?

[Metro]

So with this album (not including the Christmas single), this lineup has recorded a total of 69 songs   

I think you missed one, I counted 70.

ADTOE: 9
DT12: 9
TA: 34
D/T: 10
New album: 7
Holiday Spirit: 1

So with this album (not including the Christmas single), this lineup has recorded a total of 69 songs   

You're counting the NOMAC tracks and tracks that don't feature all members performing?

IIRC, Jordan recorded them with some of his tech.

Not counting the Xmas single means not counting the Xmas single.
One member recording something is not the whole band recording something.

What about the songs on ADTOE that have no drums?

I think you're overthinking what was just a simple dumb joke, bud.

[darkshade]

So with this album (not including the Christmas single), this lineup has recorded a total of 69 songs   

I think you missed one, I counted 70.

ADTOE: 9
DT12: 9
TA: 34
D/T: 10
New album: 7
Holiday Spirit: 1

So with this album (not including the Christmas single), this lineup has recorded a total of 69 songs   

You're counting the NOMAC tracks and tracks that don't feature all members performing?

IIRC, Jordan recorded them with some of his tech.

Not counting the Xmas single means not counting the Xmas single.
One member recording something is not the whole band recording something.

What about the songs on ADTOE that have no drums?

I think you're overthinking what was just a simple dumb joke, bud.

I, too, was being facetious.
Rat Shit Bat Shit Dirty Old Twat. 69 Assholes Tied in a Knot. Hooray! Lizard Shit! Fuck!

[gzarruk]

So with this album (not including the Christmas single), this lineup has recorded a total of 69 songs   

I think you missed one, I counted 70.

ADTOE: 9
DT12: 9
TA: 34
D/T: 10
New album: 7
Holiday Spirit: 1

I read including the christmas single my bad

[Dedalus]

Sometimes making a joke here is like a train wreck.

[Nel_Annette]

Lose the giant shoes, and the album cover's great. The image of that tower viewer on the precarious disconnected rock is powerful enough on its own, I think. Otherwise, looks good. We've had big open skies in three of the last four albums too, so on one hand maybe a sunset color would have set it apart more, but it looks great with the blue sky too.

[darkshade]

Sometimes making a joke here is like a train wreck.

In Soviet America, jokes aren't funny unless everyone gets them.

[geeeemo]

So is that Jack with the giant??

[v_clortho]

How about A...W?

I'll probably abbreviate it as AVF or TOTW, no way I'm going to use all the letters.

We should just decide now that the official abbreviation for it is "View."

[CodyWanKenobi]

I've seen some comments about the big shoes that make me think people don't get that they're supposed to be the sleeping giant's shoes.

How about A...W?

I'll probably abbreviate it as AVF or TOTW, no way I'm going to use all the letters.

We should just decide now that the official abbreviation for it is "View."

I'm gonna rehash the D/T debate by suggesting View/World (get it? View on top of world?).

[Kotowboy]

DT15 would also work.

It annoys me all the weird ways people abbreviate Octavarium.

8M. 8VM. 8VIUM. 8VARIUM

OCT will do.


Also it puts an end to that one guys theory that since Mangini joined - they've had DT in album titles in that order. Even though The Astonishing has no D .

[TAC]

It annoys me all the weird ways people abbreviate Octavarium.

8M. 8VIUM. 8VARIUM

I have literally not once seen any of these before.


I go 8V.

[CodyWanKenobi]

It annoys me all the weird ways people abbreviate Octavarium.

8M. 8VIUM. 8VARIUM

I have literally not once seen any of these before.


I go 8V.

I just post this picture

[TAC]

 

Uh, I could've had one!