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Dream Theater is building their own studio?

Started by Schurftkut, April 27, 2019, 02:46:09 AM

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Schurftkut

Looking at the recent video of JP on youtube, it seems they're building their own studio, have there been any comments from the band on it?

RoeDent

Could you at the very least put a link to said video?


MinistroRaven

Quote from: Schurftkut on April 27, 2019, 02:46:09 AM
Looking at the recent video of JP on youtube, it seems they're building their own studio, have there been any comments from the band on it?

After all JP said at the very beggining of the video, it's obvious they have built (are building) the studio.

RoeDent

I couldn't watch beyond a few minutes cos of that host! You're off to a bad start in my book when you start with "What's up, Sam Ashers!" Is that some kind of cult? And the overly cheesy conversational style. And the interruptions. It's like he studied at the Eddie Trunk School of Interrupting Your Guests!

So they're building a studio. If it works out, great!

gzarruk

Very cool! And they've kept this very quiet, hope they do a proper announcement soon.

Max Kuehnau

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Quote from: RoeDent on April 27, 2019, 08:01:30 AM
I couldn't watch beyond a few minutes cos of that host! You're off to a bad start in my book when you start with "What's up, Sam Ashers!" Is that some kind of cult? And the overly cheesy conversational style. And the interruptions. It's like he studied at the Eddie Trunk School of Interrupting Your Guests!

So they're building a studio. If it works out, great!
Sam Ash is a group of musical instrument stores in the US (I've seen one when I visited NYC last year). And IIRC, JP's analysis of Barstool was shot in that same place as this video here has been.
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goo-goo

Seems like they are. Pretty cool. I think going forward they are just going to hole up wherever that studio is and do the similar thing they did for d/t. Hopefully, this new studio gets JP writing and recording for his 2nd solo album. LOL.

gzarruk

Quote from: goo-goo on April 27, 2019, 04:16:40 PM
Seems like they are. Pretty cool. I think going forward they are just going to hole up wherever that studio is and do the similar thing they did for d/t. Hopefully, this new studio gets JP writing and recording for his 2nd solo album. LOL.

Amen to that!

dream416

Quote from: goo-goo on April 27, 2019, 04:16:40 PM
Seems like they are. Pretty cool. I think going forward they are just going to hole up wherever that studio is and do the similar thing they did for d/t. Hopefully, this new studio gets JP writing and recording for his 2nd solo album. LOL.
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1000% on this  :biggrin:

Max Kuehnau

Quick question: would you say Suspended Animation is worth listening to? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOY6nwXNteU back on topic: you can see the studio in this clip here too)
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evilasiojr

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Could this new studio be any indication of an earlier next release???

I'd love to hear new stuff within a year time, following the vibe of d/t. Not trying to rush things, but I bet they are excited to write and record new music in this new set up.

Max Kuehnau

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Quote from: evilasiojr on April 28, 2019, 09:01:04 AM
Could this new studio be any indication of an earlier next release???

I'd love to hear new stuff within a year time, following the vibe of d/t. Not trying rush things, but I bet they are excited to write and record new music in this new set up.
my guess is (guess!), that they simply wanted to have some place where they can come and go whenever they want and work on their own pace and with good tech specs to record good sounding albums. Add the bonus of basically being able to not be forced into timelines and deadlines by IO. (They could say: OK IO, there you go.) Yonderbarn was the first step into that kind of direction of being somewhat independent concerning studio time and this seems to be the completion of the idea I think. Either way, I actually thought that this would be something they would want to do, it just was a question of time. And we all know that they like to spend quite a bit of time in the studio too  (5 months on average in the MM era, ADTOE and DT12 took 5 months anyway) and that is expensive, so the new studio may circumvent that issue too. I may be wrong about all this though.
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MirrorMask

I wonder what is the correlation between costs and earnings. I mean, you of course have to pay a lot to build your own studio, but once you have it, you save both from never having to book another studio again, and maybe renting it out to other bands. I'm totally ignorant to the business side of these things so I don't want to sound like someone who has an easy answer, but in my ingenuity I would assume that for bands of a certain caliber having your own studio would be quite a save in the long run...

Max Kuehnau

Quote from: MirrorMask on April 28, 2019, 10:04:42 AM
I wonder what is the correlation between costs and earnings. I mean, you of course have to pay a lot to build your own studio, but once you have it, you save both from never having to book another studio again, and maybe renting it out to other bands. I'm totally ignorant to the business side of these things so I don't want to sound like someone who has an easy answer, but in my ingenuity I would assume that for bands of a certain caliber having your own studio would be quite a save in the long run...
that is my thought as well (and may have been JP's and Jimmy T's, or whoever had the idea)
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Grizz

Quote from: MirrorMask on April 28, 2019, 10:04:42 AM
I wonder what is the correlation between costs and earnings. I mean, you of course have to pay a lot to build your own studio, but once you have it, you save both from never having to book another studio again, and maybe renting it out to other bands. I'm totally ignorant to the business side of these things so I don't want to sound like someone who has an easy answer, but in my ingenuity I would assume that for bands of a certain caliber having your own studio would be quite a save in the long run...
Since Octavarium, the DT guys tend to rent out studios for months at a time, and I imagine that adds up quickly. The expense is probably covered by the label though...

BearTracks and The Hit Factory, two studios associated with DT classics, shuttered about fifteen years ago. Since then they're mostly recorded at Avatar, in NYC, Cove City, on Long Island, and various places around New York (vocals are usually done in Canada now, it seems). Maybe they want to be closer to home or something, or they want to be able to be in the studio indefinitely between tours.

MinistroRaven

Quote from: Grizz on April 28, 2019, 06:36:26 PM
Quote from: MirrorMask on April 28, 2019, 10:04:42 AM
I wonder what is the correlation between costs and earnings. I mean, you of course have to pay a lot to build your own studio, but once you have it, you save both from never having to book another studio again, and maybe renting it out to other bands. I'm totally ignorant to the business side of these things so I don't want to sound like someone who has an easy answer, but in my ingenuity I would assume that for bands of a certain caliber having your own studio would be quite a save in the long run...
Since Octavarium, the DT guys tend to rent out studios for months at a time, and I imagine that adds up quickly. The expense is probably covered by the label though...

BearTracks and The Hit Factory, two studios associated with DT classics, shuttered about fifteen years ago. Since then they're mostly recorded at Avatar, in NYC, Cove City, on Long Island, and various places around New York (vocals are usually done in Canada now, it seems). Maybe they want to be closer to home or something, or they want to be able to be in the studio indefinitely between tours.

And maybe they want to have another way for revenue, they can easily rent that space and gain money

mikeyd23

I think that, from what I can tell at least, they purchased the gear to record D/T in the studio they did that in. If I remember right, there were some interviews where the guys talked about it basically being an empty rehearsal space, so when they decided to do the record there, they brought in all the gear to do so.

If that was the case, this makes perfect sense, if they had already purchased a lot of the needed gear to outfit a studio, why not set up a permanent spot? Pretty cool.

Max Kuehnau

Yes, I think both Maddi and Jimmy T were tasked with outfitting the Yonderbarn with the neccessary gear before tracking (not the compositional process mind you) started last year. And like I said, I think it was a logical step for them to be able to work undisturbed and on their own.
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Grizz

When I googled the Yonderbarn it said it was a movie studio, so that probably makes sense then

Drinktheater

Quote from: MinistroRaven on April 28, 2019, 04:07:51 PM
Quote from: Drinktheater on April 28, 2019, 02:45:57 PM

Link to  the video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqOEjai2gMY

Thanks!

Wow DreamTheater head quarters their own studio and office!.. I would love to visit that! I want to steal JPs bourbon!

Schurftkut

Bosk not replying means there's video/promo  to come

gzarruk

Quote from: Schurftkut on April 29, 2019, 05:20:52 PM
Bosk not replying means there's video/promo  to come

Spot on :lol

I know we just got a new album and all that, but I would LOVE IT if just for fun they decided to record a 3 song EP or something to celebrate their studio opening. Or, maybe the 30th anniversary re-recording of WDADU with the current lineup :metal

CodyWanKenobi

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I was so incredibly excited when I found out about this. I remember thinking they should try to buy the Yonderbarn since they loved it so much. Hopefully the new DT compound brings out as much inspiration and camaraderie as the YB did.

Getting into the reasons why - it just seems to make a ton of sense. Their band has enough money to do it, their last album was completely engineered by their own crew member who they can now hire as the head engineer, and it makes the most sense financially with their crazy write/record/release/tour/write/record/release schedule. With what's available due to today's technology, I'm sure they built that entire studio for less than what it cost them to rent out a room at Cove City Studios for six months. And the best part is, they don't have to come up with that money all at once. Over the couple of years leading up to the next album they can continue to add expensive equipment and plugins little by little. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a space for them to store JP and JM's guitars, their touring rigs, MM's different kits, etc, all of which will eliminate them renting other storage units and whatnot. To have one central DT "headquarters" is definitely the smartest thing for them. It's also good for the fans because they wouldn't be doing something like this if they didn't expect to continue doing this for many many years. I used to install recording consoles and equipment in studios all around the world. One of our clients was Metallica. I'm not really a fan of Metallica, but they have a compound/studio called HQ in the San Francisco and I loved getting to go there. I've seen what a convenience it is for them, and it's definitely something that well established bands should have.
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Quote from: Schurftkut on April 29, 2019, 05:20:52 PM
Bosk not replying means there's video/promo  to come
or maybe not, seeing as (if I remember correctly) he initially didn't reply to some posts about Budokan in 2017 and then that ultimately didn't get a release. That said, if there were to be a video of some kind, I'm certainly happy to watch it. (sorry in case that offended you bosk. Not intended in any way)
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bosk1

Quote from: Max Kuehnau on April 30, 2019, 05:41:52 AM(sorry in case that offended you bosk. Not intended in any way)

Nope, not at all.  I may know something.  I may not.  I haven't commented simply because I don't really have anything to say on the matter.

Samsara

Building their own studio is a good investment...depending on the location and their needs. I'd be curious to know if "Dream Theater," the corporate entity owns it, or if the five of them created a new corporation with equal shares for ownership purposes and that way they all could use it collectively, or individually. It will need to generate some revenue to be self-sustaining, so my guess is (without having viewed the video) they'll be renting it out when they aren't using it. But I think its a smart long term investment for all of them, particularly given how they like to write and record in the studio.
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cramx3

Lots of bands have their own studio and from the couple I know of, it hasn't lead to them releasing more music so I wouldn't get hyped on that.  It's probably something that just makes sense for money and convenience.  I'd certainly be happy if they did make use of it and released more music either via DT or their own bands, but I'm not going to get worked up thinking this will happen.

Chino

They should call the studio "Dream Theatre"

MirrorMask

Quote from: cramx3 on April 30, 2019, 08:17:51 AM
Lots of bands have their own studio and from the couple I know of, it hasn't lead to them releasing more music so I wouldn't get hyped on that.  It's probably something that just makes sense for money and convenience.

Andi Deris lives in Tenerife and owns the Mi Suenos studios, where Helloween record albums.

So on his off time he's on Tenerife, when he's recording an album he's at home anyway, and when he leaves the island, it's in order to tour the world and play concerts in front of wild fans.

The man has life figured out  :D

Rob24

Quote from: cramx3 on April 30, 2019, 08:17:51 AM
Lots of bands have their own studio and from the couple I know of, it hasn't lead to them releasing more music so I wouldn't get hyped on that.  It's probably something that just makes sense for money and convenience.  I'd certainly be happy if they did make use of it and released more music either via DT or their own bands, but I'm not going to get worked up thinking this will happen.

Why should DT even release more music than they do currently? Their rate is mind-boggling.

JayOctavarium

Quote from: Chino on April 30, 2019, 08:44:03 AM
They should call the studio "Dream Theatre"

Damnit. I was going to say this.