Do you consider "Octavarium" to be one of the best DT songs?

[erwinrafael]

Oh, I don't think it's bad. It just detracted from my overall enjoyment of the song because the other parts are so immersive, then suddenly comes a section that doesn't make much sense to me.

[King Postwhore]

I wouldn't want the same style of lyrics from a band.  Variety is the spice of life and in DT's case, that's what they strive for.


erwinradael, that would be like me complaining about CSN and their song OHIO. It was a protest song about violence that happened at Kent State when I was 2 years old.  It's topical to that day but I got to understand the storylines and the implications.  Mike just used something relevant in his life to express this characters mindset while going back into a coma.

[The Walrus]

Different perspectives are so interesting. Good stuff

[erwinrafael]

I wouldn't want the same style of lyrics from a band.  Variety is the spice of life and in DT's case, that's what they strive for.


erwinradael, that would be like me complaining about CSN and their song OHIO. It was a protest song about violence that happened at Kent State when I was 2 years old.  It's topical to that day but I got to understand the storylines and the implications.  Mike just used something relevant in his life to express this characters mindset while going back into a coma.

I wouldn't complain about Ohio. The lyrics themselves already have enough narrative content to give you a sense of what Crosby, Stills and Nash was writing about.

Context specific lyrics sometimes work, especially when it references something that is relatively widely known. Like Room 137 by Mike Mangini, which only really makes sense when you know Wolfgang Pauli's story. The lyrics of Full Circle, for me, was too specific about MP's personal context that I never got it, and during those days, I hardly know anything about the band member's lives because all we ever had access here are CDs. No magazines. Nothing.

[King Postwhore]

You can still enjoy the lyrics to Room 137 without understanding them.  You can also look up the meaning if you like to get an understanding.  That's the beauty of lyrics. 


Over-analyzing takes away the joy of the song.

Different perspectives are so interesting. Good stuff

And that to me is the crux of this conversation. Lyrics can have many perspectives even though they might mean something specific.

[Loggins]

Octavarium is OK, maybe top 20-30... It's no "A Nightmare to Remember"

[The Walrus]

Octavarium is OK, maybe top 20-30... It's no "A Nightmare to Remember"

       

[nattmorker]

I really enjoy the lyrics in Full Circle, from the first listen I thought they were pretty cool, didn't understand a thing but it sounded cool. Later when I learned the motivation, I enjoyed them even more.

As I say before, probably my favorite DT song.

[hefdaddy42]

It's no "A Nightmare to Remember"

Thank God

[Dublagent66]

I'm thinking some of the voters may have misunderstood the question.  8VM doesn't need to be a top 10 song to be one of their best.  With more than 150 songs in DT's catalog, I would consider a top 50 song "ONE" of their best.

[King Postwhore]

Octavarium is OK, maybe top 20-30... It's no "A Nightmare to Remember"

This post will survive.

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[axeman90210]

I feel comfortable saying Octavarium is not a top 5 song for me. It might well sneak into the top 10, and if not there it's definitely in the top 15.

[abydos]

Nope, perhaps if it was 12-15 minutes long. And it didn't contain that final lisp-ish "this Octavarium" scream. It's certainly one of their best songs if we don't factor in the albums before, though.

[Trav]

Nope, perhaps if it was 12-15 minutes long. And it didn't contain that final lisp-ish "this Octavarium" scream. It's certainly one of their best songs if we don't factor in the albums before, though.

It's great if you ignore all of the better stuff.

[JediKnight1969]

Not really.

[Nachtmerrie]

No, good song but they have many better songs. It takes too long before it gets interesting

[SuperTaco]

I consider it to be the best song they've ever made. It tops my list.