Stupid Dream Theater factoids.

[gzarruk]

WDADU and DT12 are the only DT albums without their names on cover.

For WDaDU, that may be true of the CD, but not of the vinyl:

I didn't even know about this, it looks better than the standard cover.

[KevShmev]

I did it by tracks, not necessarily "songs". As weird as it may be, I prefer to not consider subjective factors into statistics like these.

Plus, I've always listened to SDOIT as 8 songs & ITPOE as 2 songs anyway.

Same here.

I know many consider 6DOIT one song, but I never have.

As for In the Presence of Enemies, that was one song, but then it was broken up into two songs. 

[ytserush]

Each DT studio album released between 1994 and 1999 (Awake, FII and SFAM) had a different lineup from each other. Now it may not seem like a big deal, but I would've definitely worried back then if my favorite band changed members with every album cycle.

Was only worried after Kevin Moore left. The ship was righted when Jordan finally signed up.

[IDontNotDoThings]

The only DT album to open with its longest track is SDOIT

[MirrorMask]

The only DT album to open with its longest track is SDOIT

154 posts discussing wether the title track is a "song" proper or not in 3, 2, 1........

[IDontNotDoThings]

The only DT album to open with its longest track is SDOIT

154 posts discussing wether the title track is a "song" proper or not in 3, 2, 1........

I made sure to say "track" this time.

[MirrorMask]

Didn't notice that detail  uh well, speaking of CD tracks, you're absolutely correct.

[genome]

Owen Wilson has now appeared in two Dream Theater albums

[Orbert]

Wait, what?

[romdrums]

Owen Wilson has now appeared in two Dream Theater albums

[KevShmev]

The only DT album to open with its longest track is SDOIT

Hmmm, ya know, I never thought of that, but it is a fun little fact.

[genome]

Wait, what?

Octavarium being the other one 

[Orbert]

Oh yeah, during that "word association football" section.

[IDontNotDoThings]

Every DT album has at least one X in its lyrics:

WD&DU: "Maybe your life can explain"
I&W: "Sighs an anxious relief"
AWAKE: "Six o'clock"
FII: "Things that you're expecting me to be"
SFAM: "Close your eyes and begin to relax"
SDOIT: "Sorry you must excuse me"
TOT: "I extend my hand"
OCT: "Ready to explode"
SC: "Eager to explore"
ANTR: "How can you prepare for what would happen next?"
ADTOE: "Your iconic fixation"
DT12: "I would not expect you felt unnoticed and ignored"
TA: "Living a meek existence"
DOT: "Sex and faith, terrorize"

[Dedalus]

 

Every DT album has at least one X in its lyrics:

WD&DU: "Maybe your life can explain"
I&W: "Sighs an anxious relief"
AWAKE: "Six o'clock"
FII: "Things that you're expecting me to be"
SFAM: "Close your eyes and begin to relax"
SDOIT: "Sorry you must excuse me"
TOT: "I extend my hand"
OCT: "Ready to explode"
SC: "Eager to explore"
ANTR: "How can you prepare for what would happen next?"
ADTOE: "Your iconic fixation"
DT12: "I would not expect you felt unnoticed and ignored"
TA: "Living a meek existence"
DOT: "Sex and faith, terrorize"

[krands85]

Not sure if this really fits in the thread, but someone pointed out elsewhere that A Rite of Passage is longer than Pale Blue Dot. For some reason, that just feels crazy to me. Black Clouds is one of the few cases where even I feel like the songs are bloated and this sort of backs that up to me. AROP seems like it should be a 6 minute song, tops, but PBD seems like it could go on much longer.

[gzarruk]

Every DT album has at least one X in its lyrics:

WD&DU: "Maybe your life can explain"
I&W: "Sighs an anxious relief"
AWAKE: "Six o'clock"
FII: "Things that you're expecting me to be"
SFAM: "Close your eyes and begin to relax"
SDOIT: "Sorry you must excuse me"
TOT: "I extend my hand"
OCT: "Ready to explode"
SC: "Eager to explore"
ANTR: "How can you prepare for what would happen next?"
ADTOE: "Your iconic fixation"
DT12: "I would not expect you felt unnoticed and ignored"
TA: "Living a meek existence"
DOT: "Sex and faith, terrorize"

If we're going that route, then: Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence is the only DT studio album title without the letter "a"

[Architeuthis]

Dream Theater and Rush nugget here!  Both "Distance Over Time" and "Roll The Bones" are each bands 14th studio album, and the only albums featuring skulls on the album covers and artwork. Both are designed by Hugh Syme.  Hmmm. 

[Setlist Scotty]

Dream Theater and Rush nugget here!  Both "Distance Over Time" and "Roll The Bones" are each bands 14th studio album, and the only albums featuring skulls on the album covers and artwork. Both are designed by Hugh Syme.  Hmmm. 

More things to make you say hmmmm....
Rush has the album p/g and the song BU2B
DT has the album d/t and the song S2N

[porcacultor]

Also, JLB quoted the title track to Roll the Bones in a recent interview.

[RaiseTheKnife]

March of the Tyrant (JP)

Believe it or not, John Myung actually wrote the lyrics to March of the Tyrant.

[gzarruk]

March of the Tyrant (JP)

Believe it or not, John Myung actually wrote the lyrics to March of the Tyrant.

I saw that somewhere a while ago, but couldn't find any reliable source on any of the Majesty demos lyric credits.

[RaiseTheKnife]

March of the Tyrant (JP)

Believe it or not, John Myung actually wrote the lyrics to March of the Tyrant.

I saw that somewhere a while ago, but couldn't find any reliable source on any of the Majesty demos lyric credits.

The lyrics were printed as part of an press kit assembled by their first manager (Andy Ross).  I might have a copy of the cover letter somewhere.  JP also confirmed it to me when I asked him a series of trivia questions at a meet and greet some years ago - particularly, what was JM's first lyrical contribution.  He remembered it quickly: March of the Tyrant.

[gzarruk]

March of the Tyrant (JP)

Believe it or not, John Myung actually wrote the lyrics to March of the Tyrant.

I saw that somewhere a while ago, but couldn't find any reliable source on any of the Majesty demos lyric credits.

The lyrics were printed as part of an press kit assembled by their first manager (Andy Ross).  I might have a copy of the cover letter somewhere.  JP also confirmed it to me when I asked him a series of trivia questions at a meet and greet some years ago - particularly, what was JM's first lyrical contribution.  He remembered it quickly: March of the Tyrant.

If you find it, please share it here, I really appreciate the Majesty demos (not the best sounding, but they're definitely something special as the first songs DT ever released).

[Setlist Scotty]

Good to know. Anyone wanna fix this wikipedia entry then?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_recorded_by_Dream_Theater

[gzarruk]

Good to know. Anyone wanna fix this wikipedia entry then?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_recorded_by_Dream_Theater

Done

[IDontNotDoThings]

People seem to think the fastest DT album to be released was Train of Thought because most people just look at the years, but the time difference between TOT & Octavarium is actually shorter.

29th January 2002 to 1st November 2003 = 641 days
1st November 2003 to 7th June 2005 = 584 days

[Max Kuehnau]

All the Mangini-era albums (barring TA) have 9 tracks.

[voncorn]

What are the pre-Scenes from a Memory songs that Jordan Rudess has NEVER played live?

I'm more concerned with the main album tracks, and my hunch is that by the time DT did the WDADRU show in 2004, Jordan had played just about every album cut from before he joined the band at least once.

The only two that I'm fairly sure Jordan has never played are both from FII, "You Not Me" and "Anna Lee", which would also mean those two songs haven't been played by the band period since 1997/1998. We all know "Space Dye Vest" eventually got its due, but I feel like there are possibly a few others?

Setlist Scotty, I summon you. Please help me out here. And feel free to expand further on Jordan's live performance record concerning pre-1999 rarities like DLPM, Eve, the FII outtakes, Majesty songs, etc.

[hefdaddy42]

What are the pre-Scenes from a Memory songs that Jordan Rudess has NEVER played live?

I'm more concerned with the main album tracks, and my hunch is that by the time DT did the WDADRU show in 2004, Jordan had played just about every album cut from before he joined the band at least once.

The only two that I'm fairly sure Jordan has never played are both from FII, "You Not Me" and "Anna Lee", which would also mean those two songs haven't been played by the band period since 1997/1998. We all know "Space Dye Vest" eventually got its due, but I feel like there are possibly a few others?

Setlist Scotty, I summon you. Please help me out here. And feel free to expand further on Jordan's live performance record concerning pre-1999 rarities like DLPM, Eve, the FII outtakes, Majesty songs, etc.

You Not Me and Anna Lee are the only album tracks Jordan hasn't played, if memory serves.

He played Don't Look Past Me at a few dates on the Images, Words, & Beyond tour.

The only FII outtakes he has played, if memory serves, were Raise the Knife and Speak to Me, on the Octavarium tour.

Eve hasn't been played since JR joined the band.

He played Another Won at every date of the Octavarium tour.  He also played Your Majesty once.  I think that's it for the Majesty songs.

[Max Kuehnau]

What are the pre-Scenes from a Memory songs that Jordan Rudess has NEVER played live?

I'm more concerned with the main album tracks, and my hunch is that by the time DT did the WDADRU show in 2004, Jordan had played just about every album cut from before he joined the band at least once.

The only two that I'm fairly sure Jordan has never played are both from FII, "You Not Me" and "Anna Lee", which would also mean those two songs haven't been played by the band period since 1997/1998. We all know "Space Dye Vest" eventually got its due, but I feel like there are possibly a few others?

Setlist Scotty, I summon you. Please help me out here. And feel free to expand further on Jordan's live performance record concerning pre-1999 rarities like DLPM, Eve, the FII outtakes, Majesty songs, etc.

You Not Me and Anna Lee are the only album tracks Jordan hasn't played, if memory serves.

He played Don't Look Past Me at a few dates on the Images, Words, & Beyond tour.

The only FII outtakes he has played, if memory serves, were Raise the Knife and Speak to Me, on the Octavarium tour.

Eve hasn't been played since JR joined the band.

He played Another Won at every date of the Octavarium tour.  He also played Your Majesty once.  I think that's it for the Majesty songs.

not sure about Speak To Me, but everything else is what I can remember as well.

[MirrorMask]

Speak to Me was definitively played more than once.

Here's proof:

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2005/palalottomatica-rome-italy-4bd6d306.html

[Max Kuehnau]

Speak to Me was definitively played more than once.

Here's proof:

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2005/palalottomatica-rome-italy-4bd6d306.html

alright, nevermind then.

[ZirconBlue]

The only FII outtakes he has played, if memory serves, were Raise the Knife and Speak to Me, on the Octavarium tour.

I believe they played "Cover My Eyes" on the 6DoIT tour.

[voncorn]

Oh, and make that THREE from FII for Jordan, "Take Away My Pain" also hasn't been played live since 1998.