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Happy New Year From JP and MP

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RodrigoAltaf

Quote from: DT2003 on January 01, 2018, 04:01:07 PM
Quote from: gzarruk on January 01, 2018, 02:31:40 PM
Quote from: DTA on January 01, 2018, 02:01:33 PM
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on January 01, 2018, 12:34:16 PM
I'm hoping that sometime down the track all members of DT, past and present, are able to put their differences aside, and that a joint tour with SOA and DT comes to fruition.

This should have been SoA's goal from the beginning (joint tour), but with Derek's bullshit, I don't see it happening.



This. It's not like the guys in DT have anything against MP or the SOA guys, but Derek taking shots at them anytime he has the chance to.

There is at least one (possibly two) members of DT who are not all that fond of Mike, it appears.


James, for sure, and possibly he has his reasons. Myung, we all suspect, but I don´t think there´s a clear reason for it, just probably the fact that MP took over DT´s helm in the last yers of his tenure with the band, not being open enough for his contributions. But thet´s purely my guess and perception, I have nothing to back this up.

Zook

Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on January 01, 2018, 04:25:11 PM
Quote from: DT2003 on January 01, 2018, 04:01:07 PM
Quote from: gzarruk on January 01, 2018, 02:31:40 PM
Quote from: DTA on January 01, 2018, 02:01:33 PM
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on January 01, 2018, 12:34:16 PM
I'm hoping that sometime down the track all members of DT, past and present, are able to put their differences aside, and that a joint tour with SOA and DT comes to fruition.

This should have been SoA's goal from the beginning (joint tour), but with Derek's bullshit, I don't see it happening.



This. It's not like the guys in DT have anything against MP or the SOA guys, but Derek taking shots at them anytime he has the chance to.

There is at least one (possibly two) members of DT who are not all that fond of Mike, it appears.


James, for sure, and possibly he has his reasons. Myung, we all suspect, but I don´t think there´s a clear reason for it, just probably the fact that MP took over DT´s helm in the last yers of his tenure with the band, not being open enough for his contributions. But thet´s purely my guess and perception, I have nothing to back this up.

Actually, MP let his dog poop in Myung's yard one time and didn't pick it up.

Another_Won

Quote from: DTA on January 01, 2018, 06:46:32 AM
This is a great photo and it's awesome to see them back together and in good spirits. I really wouldn't read too much into it though, MP returning to DT would imo NOT be a healthy thing for the band.
Agreed!  with the ending of the posting "#givepeaceachance #carpediem Here's to a great 2018!" I think we can look forward to more good things.  If MP doesn't come back to DT it doesn't mean that we still can't have some awesome collaborations.

Anxiety35

Just repairing the relationship is important. Not for the sake of DT or wishes of fans, but for the lives of these two people. Think about it. You spend 25 years basically living together, were in each other's weddings, have families that are close, and more. I'm glad they felt it was important to work on this.

For the same reasons, it would be cool to see things patched up with LaBrie too. I'm not sure there are ill feelings between MP and Myung.

Musically moving forward whatever happens, happens.

I did smile when I saw the picture for the first time. :)

The Walrus

Really ticks me off seeing that one comment under that photo with hundreds of likes, saying "Mangini should watch out" or whatever. Get the hell over it, Mangini is part of the band now and Mike ain't coming back... MP even said he has no interest or desire to play with them again.

MirrorMask

Quote from: Anxiety35 on January 02, 2018, 09:03:49 AM
Just repairing the relationship is important. Not for the sake of DT or wishes of fans, but for the lives of these two people. Think about it. You spend 25 years basically living together, were in each other's weddings, have families that are close, and more. I'm glad they felt it was important to work on this.

For the same reasons, it would be cool to see things patched up with LaBrie too. I'm not sure there are ill feelings between MP and Myung.

Musically moving forward whatever happens, happens.

I did smile when I saw the picture for the first time. :)

Best post about the situation!

And indeed Kattoelox, from a pic of two people who were friends since the teen years, that live nearby and whose families and children are all close to each other, everyone asked for basically everything: reunion, LTE, G3, joint tour etc.... just let them be!

pg1067

I just saw this.  Very cool.

I have been under the impression that MP has been exchanging texts/e-mails with JR and JP for at least a few years (after the initial falling out period).  Don't know anything about them actually being physically in the same place, although I do recall seeing an MP/JR picture a year or two ago.

I went and looked at MP's Facebook page, and the first comment that came up was, "Mike Mangini should start looking for a new job in 2018," and just shook my head.  Guess it's inevitable, though.

Stadler

Quote from: Fritzinger on January 01, 2018, 03:10:25 AM
FB is full of comments of a new LTE album. Man, JP & MP must be SICK of this crap by now  :rollin

Still, it was very cool to see these two giants together again.

I saw that too.  I feel that is inconsiderate.   They offered the photo, take it for what it is, i.e. two friends connecting for New Years.   I understand all the arguments for doing it - they don't have to read it, "free speech", public lives, they put it out there, etc. -  but to me it's just rude and selfish.   

It's not like these guys are shy or reticent to release their music.  This isn't Steve Perry.   :)

Cool Chris

Also, LTE was not actually that good. #hottake
Maybe the grass is greener on the other side because you're not over there fucking it up.

TAC

Quote from: Cool Chris on January 02, 2018, 02:34:28 PM
Also, LTE was not actually that good. #hottake

Well, it was an experiment after all..

:neverusethis:
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

KevShmev

Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on January 01, 2018, 12:34:16 PM
I'm hoping that sometime down the track all members of DT, past and present, are able to put their differences aside, and that a joint tour with SOA and DT comes to fruition.

A joint tour?  For real?  A joint tour, to me, usually implies co-headliners, and co-headliners are usually about on the same level, which DT and Sons of Apollo are most certainly not.

As for the picture, it didn't surprise me.  Several other pics/tweets in 2017 made it clear that the two families are still close, so it went without saying that the Petrucci/Portnoy friendship had been restored to at least some extent.   


TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

RodrigoAltaf

Quote from: KevShmev on January 02, 2018, 03:39:18 PM
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on January 01, 2018, 12:34:16 PM
I'm hoping that sometime down the track all members of DT, past and present, are able to put their differences aside, and that a joint tour with SOA and DT comes to fruition.

A joint tour?  For real?  A joint tour, to me, usually implies co-headliners, and co-headliners are usually about on the same level, which DT and Sons of Apollo are most certainly not.

As for the picture, it didn't surprise me.  Several other pics/tweets in 2017 made it clear that the two families are still close, so it went without saying that the Petrucci/Portnoy friendship had been restored to at least some extent.

They're certainly not on the same level financially. My suggestion would be that SOA opened the show for DT.

Madman Shepherd

There will never be a SOA/DT tour.  In fact, Portnoy will never appear on stage again with DT unless he officially joins the band again. 

The reason is it would all create a huge whirlwind.  A whole bevy of people saying crap like, "The magic has returned!" or "Mangini better start looking for jobs!"  Oh wait, the latter was already said. 

And then, if DT in fact decided to stick with Mangini then the stock of DT would be lowered.  The hype of some people feeling that a reunion was so close now have a whole new flood of emotion.  DT now has to answer reunion questions in every interview.  Mangini feels like crap and some fanboys could listen to a new DT masterpiece that's flawless and say, "Without Portnoy they're nothing!"

That's why DT has handled this whole thing pretty darn tactfully.  When Portnoy comes up, they say something along the lines of "He was a really important part of the band but we're so happy with Mangini and really excited for the future." 

That's also why I was surprised to see them post that pic for all the above reasons.  It'd be nice to think that most people would just say, "Oh cool.  Glad they're still friends," but we know that ain't how all this works. 

It is interesting that Mike tweeted that first.  Petrucci followed suit later.  I wonder if John was torn about it being posted for the reasons above. 

MirrorMask

They know how the internet works... it probably went down very casually, like

MP: "Hey, let's do a photo together!"
JP: "Sure!"
MP: "Why don't we post it on FB?"
JP: "Well, fine, but... are you sure that it won't cause a shitstorm of rumors?"
MP: "Have you been checking my feed? I have people telling me to go back to DT everyday anyway, the world can be so shitty, let's give people a nice gesture"
JP: "Oh, what the hell, ok, it's not that I'm ashamed of being your friend anyway!"

erwinrafael

Quote from: Madman Shepherd on January 02, 2018, 05:59:11 PM
It is interesting that Mike tweeted that first.  Petrucci followed suit later.  I wonder if John was torn about it being posted for the reasons above.

DT's official FB also shared the pic so I guess it is ok.

Drinktheater

Quote from: bill1971 on January 01, 2018, 11:39:51 AM
Very nice to see as far as humanity and goodwill. I would be dissapointed if they took him back to DT. Would love to see him come on stage and play a few songs though.

I would love to see Mike be a guest in some DT show, that will be a great day I love both Drummers so I don't want Mike Mangini be disappointed and make him leave the band.

And I hope Mike Portnoy will be happy with his new band hope he don't feel any guilt or regret in him leaving the band, I want to see him have a Jam with MM, like a friendly drum battle on stage make it fun it will be a blast for the fans. 

mikeyd23

Quote from: erwinrafael on January 03, 2018, 02:27:30 AM
Quote from: Madman Shepherd on January 02, 2018, 05:59:11 PM
It is interesting that Mike tweeted that first.  Petrucci followed suit later.  I wonder if John was torn about it being posted for the reasons above.

DT's official FB also shared the pic so I guess it is ok.

That's actually the part I found weird. I get two friends getting together and posting a pic, and in this instance I love that they did, it's great to see them together. But it was kinda weird for me to see that DT's official account on FB shared the photo, to me, that's just opening up all the silly comments and speculation a lot further.

erwinrafael

Quote from: mikeyd23 on January 03, 2018, 06:09:59 AM
Quote from: erwinrafael on January 03, 2018, 02:27:30 AM
Quote from: Madman Shepherd on January 02, 2018, 05:59:11 PM
It is interesting that Mike tweeted that first.  Petrucci followed suit later.  I wonder if John was torn about it being posted for the reasons above.

DT's official FB also shared the pic so I guess it is ok.

That's actually the part I found weird. I get two friends getting together and posting a pic, and in this instance I love that they did, it's great to see them together. But it was kinda weird for me to see that DT's official account on FB shared the photo, to me, that's just opening up all the silly comments and speculation a lot further.

Yes, there's that side of it. But in terms of really giving peace a chance and maybe reconciliation between band members, this is a good statement. It's up to the immaturity of the fans whether to make mountains out of molehills of this pic.

mikeyd23

Quote from: erwinrafael on January 03, 2018, 07:38:00 AM
Yes, there's that side of it. But in terms of really giving peace a chance and maybe reconciliation between band members, this is a good statement. It's up to the immaturity of the fans whether to make mountains out of molehills of this pic.

Oh I totally agree, I'm just saying they widened the opportunity for fans to be immature and silly by sharing it through the official DT page.

bosk1

Quote from: mikeyd23 on January 03, 2018, 06:09:59 AM
Quote from: erwinrafael on January 03, 2018, 02:27:30 AM
Quote from: Madman Shepherd on January 02, 2018, 05:59:11 PM
It is interesting that Mike tweeted that first.  Petrucci followed suit later.  I wonder if John was torn about it being posted for the reasons above.

DT's official FB also shared the pic so I guess it is ok.

That's actually the part I found weird. I get two friends getting together and posting a pic, and in this instance I love that they did, it's great to see them together. But it was kinda weird for me to see that DT's official account on FB shared the photo, to me, that's just opening up all the silly comments and speculation a lot further.

...which gets people talking about the band when there is otherwise not much to talk about right now.  Brilliant move, actually.

gzarruk

Quote from: mikeyd23 on January 03, 2018, 08:11:06 AM
Quote from: erwinrafael on January 03, 2018, 07:38:00 AM
Yes, there's that side of it. But in terms of really giving peace a chance and maybe reconciliation between band members, this is a good statement. It's up to the immaturity of the fans whether to make mountains out of molehills of this pic.

Oh I totally agree, I'm just saying they widened the opportunity for fans to be immature and silly by sharing it through the official DT page.

I agree. Even without posting that pic, every regular post the DT page makes has a lot people whining about wanting Portnoy back, this is just adding more fuel to the fire.

Cool Chris

If posting a picture of two friends and former band mates on social media only feeds the speculation and the trolls, we have bigger problems.
Maybe the grass is greener on the other side because you're not over there fucking it up.

mikeyd23

Quote from: bosk1 on January 03, 2018, 08:37:47 AM
...which gets people talking about the band when there is otherwise not much to talk about right now.  Brilliant move, actually.

I guess... just kinda talking about the wrong stuff, IMO.

bosk1

Well, it may not be the most optimal thing to discuss.  But the thing is, since the band isn't currently doing anything, there isn't really much else to talk about.  And it sure beats the typically news "bombshell" for bands that are in between actual newsworthy things, like X member going into drug rehab, or X member getting arrested, or what have you.  It gets people thinking about Dream Theater during a "slow time" when they otherwise probably wouldn't be.  Nothing wrong with that.

Cool Chris

You know what else would get people talking about DT? News of a new album in the works, or at least the guys getting together to write/brainstorm/jam. Not some lame G3 tour or whatever else they are doing between now and whenever they end up getting together again.
Maybe the grass is greener on the other side because you're not over there fucking it up.

The Walrus

Don't hate on the G3... that stuff's cool imo.

I also am not a big fan of LTE. They got a small handful of great tracks, everything else is meh  :biggrin:

bosk1

Quote from: Cool Chris on January 03, 2018, 10:33:05 AM
You know what else would get people talking about DT? News of a new album in the works, or at least the guys getting together to write/brainstorm/jam. Not some lame G3 tour or whatever else they are doing between now and whenever they end up getting together again.
Well, sure--IF they were working on anything right now.  But we know they aren't and won't be in the immediate future.  So, again, while they are on a break, it's nice that there is something for the general public that would otherwise forget about them to talk about, especially something that is relatively positive. 

Setlist Scotty

Quote from: bosk1 on January 03, 2018, 10:20:32 AM
And it sure beats the typically news "bombshell" for bands that are in between actual newsworthy things, like X member going into drug rehab, or X member getting arrested, or what have you.
Wait. I get what you're saying - this is sort of a coverup for the REAL news! So spill the beans Bosk: which one of the guys is going into drug rehab, and which one got arrested?!?!?    :biggrin:
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

Ninjabait

Quote from: Setlist Scotty on January 03, 2018, 11:34:29 AM
Quote from: bosk1 on January 03, 2018, 10:20:32 AM
And it sure beats the typically news "bombshell" for bands that are in between actual newsworthy things, like X member going into drug rehab, or X member getting arrested, or what have you.
Wait. I get what you're saying - this is sort of a coverup for the REAL news! So spill the beans Bosk: which one of the guys is going into drug rehab, and which one got arrested?!?!?    :biggrin:

JLB for smuggling, forgery, sailing under false colours, looting, poaching, brigandage, depravity, vandalism, impersonating a Royal Navy and other British and Spanish officers and a Clergyman, arson, kidnapping, piracy in the Caribbean Sea, perjury, theft, and ransacking a rum shipment. When reached for comment, all he had to say was "It's a hard life for a pirate." More at 6.

MirrorMask

Or maybe, inspired by the public outcry for miscondut in Hollywood, LaBrie finally found the courage to denounce Myung for the brutal tackle on stage.

AngelBack

JP illegal salmon poaching?

JR unlicensed sorcery ?

Cool Chris

Quote from: AngelBack on January 03, 2018, 11:56:39 AM
JP illegal salmon poaching?

:biggrin:

James operating a forklift without a license.
Maybe the grass is greener on the other side because you're not over there fucking it up.

bosk1

No comment.  ...but all of you are correct.  :omg: