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What kind of album would you like DT14 to be?

Started by Renzo, April 17, 2017, 09:58:28 AM

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What kind of album would you like DT14 to be?

Progressive (IAW, Awake, SDOIT, SFAM)
134 (53.8%)
Heavy (TOT, SC)
68 (27.3%)
Melodic (8VM, DT12, TA)
17 (6.8%)
Epic-Orchestral (BC&SL, ADTOE, WDADU)
11 (4.4%)
Light (FII)
19 (7.6%)

Total Members Voted: 249

MirrorMask

From The Astonishing I'd like for them to carry the unusual song structures as well. Feel like doing a 2 minutes full song like The Answer? do it for the hell of it, not because the storyline requires a short introductory piece.

nattmorker

Quote from: MirrorMask on October 18, 2017, 01:52:51 AM
From The Astonishing I'd like for them to carry the unusual song structures as well. Feel like doing a 2 minutes full song like The Answer? do it for the hell of it, not because the storyline requires a short introductory piece.

Yeah, this is one of the thing I love about the Astonishing, I hope they carry that song structures.

Renzo

Quote from: Pettor on October 18, 2017, 12:47:18 AM
An album in the sound of The Gift of Music, Ravenskill, A New Beginning and The Path that Divide ... that would be awesome. Mainly progressive and melodic with interesting song structures and heavy when needed.

I will add in The Walking Shadow, concise and with an unusual structure.

gzarruk

All this talk about the next album is getting me waaaay too excited about it... but then I remember we're more than a year away from it  :'(

theshatteredfortress

Quote from: gzarruk on October 18, 2017, 09:00:11 AM
All this talk about the next album is getting me waaaay too excited about it... but then I remember we're more than a year away from it  :'(

Well yeah but at the same time we have A LOT of Dream Theater music to listen to to help us wait :)

The Walrus


Lethean

Voted progressive but I consider the albums in the other categories to be progressive too.  I get it if they want to go heavier this time, and just hope it'll still be JLB doing all the vocals. :)

gzarruk

Quote from: Lethean on October 18, 2017, 12:19:01 PM
Voted progressive but I consider the albums in the other categories to be progressive too.  I get it if they want to go heavier this time, and just hope it'll still be JLB doing all the vocals. :)

JP hasn't contributed with vocals on the last 3 albums, so I think is pretty safe to say it'll be 100% James on the studio albums.

nattmorker

Quote from: Kattelox on October 18, 2017, 11:53:44 AM
More blastbeat jazz.

So much this!!! I really hope they try more stuff like this, beside the song structures.

SystematicThought

I really wouldn't mind another simple drum beat and bass riff a la New Beginning and JP solos over it.


gzarruk

Quote from: SystematicThought on October 18, 2017, 06:53:41 PM
I really wouldn't mind another simple drum beat and bass riff a la New Beginning and JP solos over it.

:hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy

Ben_Jamin

Quote from: SystematicThought on October 18, 2017, 06:53:41 PM
I really wouldn't mind another simple drum beat and bass riff a la New Beginning and JP solos over it.

They have been. Breaking All Illusions middle section comes to mind.

mikeyd23

Quote from: gzarruk on October 18, 2017, 05:03:26 PM
Quote from: Lethean on October 18, 2017, 12:19:01 PM
Voted progressive but I consider the albums in the other categories to be progressive too.  I get it if they want to go heavier this time, and just hope it'll still be JLB doing all the vocals. :)

JP hasn't contributed with vocals on the last 3 albums, so I think is pretty safe to say it'll be 100% James on the studio albums.

Yup, and frankly it's been refreshing. James' voice was a huge draw for me when I first heard DT and even though his live work can sometimes be shaky, his studio work is still top notch.

gzarruk

Quote from: mikeyd23 on October 19, 2017, 05:53:32 AM
Quote from: gzarruk on October 18, 2017, 05:03:26 PM
Quote from: Lethean on October 18, 2017, 12:19:01 PM
Voted progressive but I consider the albums in the other categories to be progressive too.  I get it if they want to go heavier this time, and just hope it'll still be JLB doing all the vocals. :)

JP hasn't contributed with vocals on the last 3 albums, so I think is pretty safe to say it'll be 100% James on the studio albums.

Yup, and frankly it's been refreshing. James' voice was a huge draw for me when I first heard DT and even though his live work can sometimes be shaky, his studio work is still top notch.

This pretty much sums up my thoughts about JLB as well.

mikeyd23

^ For me, his vocals specifically on ADTOE were such a joy to listen to. After MP left, the band needed to make a statement with that record, and James sounded so strong, handled all the vocals himself, and is mixed nice and up front. Great stuff.

Renzo

On ADTOE l felt like the drum parts weren't as good as the ones on DT12 and TA, but I liked the prog edge to it. The most thing I'm concerned about the next album is the  involvement of MM on it.

SystematicThought

I'm mainly concerned about his sound. Astonishing was a step in the right direction, but his drums never sound like an acoustic kit, it always sounds triggered or processed. I know a raw sound doesn't fit DT, but I would love a drum sound like Jeremy Stacey on Steven Wilson's To The Bone.

Lethean

I have to say... I don't really care who is involved into the writing or to what capacity.  ADTOE was great without Mangini involved.  DT12 was great with Mangini involved.  The Astonishing was great with just JP and JR.  So for me, it doesn't really matter so much.  At least not musically.  I don't want Mangini to be frustrated or discouraged, so from that aspect, I don't think it would be a bad idea to have him involved again. 

Adami

Quote from: SystematicThought on October 20, 2017, 05:56:44 PM
I'm mainly concerned about his sound. Astonishing was a step in the right direction, but his drums never sound like an acoustic kit, it always sounds triggered or processed. I know a raw sound doesn't fit DT, but I would love a drum sound like Jeremy Stacey on Steven Wilson's To The Bone.

His drums on ADTOE were super raw. To an extreme. They need to find that middle ground. Well mixed and semi-processed without going too far.
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gzarruk

Quote from: Adami on October 20, 2017, 07:03:44 PM
Quote from: SystematicThought on October 20, 2017, 05:56:44 PM
I'm mainly concerned about his sound. Astonishing was a step in the right direction, but his drums never sound like an acoustic kit, it always sounds triggered or processed. I know a raw sound doesn't fit DT, but I would love a drum sound like Jeremy Stacey on Steven Wilson's To The Bone.

His drums on ADTOE were super raw. To an extreme. They need to find that middle ground. Well mixed and semi-processed without going too far.

That's why they need Nolly Getgood mixing their albums  :hefdaddy

Renzo

In my opinion the mixing on TA regarding the drums was the best they had since MM joined the band with the worst being on DT12.

robin5749

probably more like dt self titled.
but they always do something special.
yea maybe a guest or two.
I would like a jazz fusion type track like weather report.
an acoustic guitar trio maybe steve morse and al de meola.
an acoustic prog epic along the lines of yes.
and the epic of all time last track featuring guest appearance by Mikael from opeth doing death growl vocals.
well that's what I imagined on my run yesterday.
little chance of any of this.

Renzo

Quote from: robin5749 on October 21, 2017, 09:18:51 AM
probably more like dt self titled.
but they always do something special.
yea maybe a guest or two.
I would like a jazz fusion type track like weather report.
an acoustic guitar trio maybe steve morse and al de meola.
an acoustic prog epic along the lines of yes.
and the epic of all time last track featuring guest appearance by Mikael from opeth doing death growl vocals.
well that's what I imagined on my run yesterday.
little chance of any of this.

I think it probably will have an epic as JLB stated that the band could make another multipart song like ACOS

Lethean

Quote from: Renzo on October 21, 2017, 09:29:10 AM
Quote from: robin5749 on October 21, 2017, 09:18:51 AM
probably more like dt self titled.
but they always do something special.
yea maybe a guest or two.
I would like a jazz fusion type track like weather report.
an acoustic guitar trio maybe steve morse and al de meola.
an acoustic prog epic along the lines of yes.
and the epic of all time last track featuring guest appearance by Mikael from opeth doing death growl vocals.
well that's what I imagined on my run yesterday.
little chance of any of this.

I think it probably will have an epic as JLB stated that the band could make another multipart song like ACOS

Would love an epic if they're so inclined, but no thanks on the death growls.  There are plenty of bands who incorporate them for those who are interested, but I don't want DT to go down that path.

KevShmev

Akerfeldt doesn't even do death growls anymore on his own band's studio albums; I can't see him doing a growling guest spot on another band's record at this point.

gzarruk

Quote from: KevShmev on October 21, 2017, 07:11:02 PM
Akerfeldt doesn't even do death growls anymore on his own band's studio albums; I can't see him doing a growling guest spot on another band's record at this point.

This. But I think a MA guest spot on a DT album would be really nice. Something like a soft, melodic part with his clean vocals.

The DT guys are good friends with Mikael, btw. I just remembered this pic from Wacken 2015:


gzarruk

Jordan confirms they'll start working on the new album around May or June 2018: https://youtu.be/eMFGkfgPCiU?t=9m52s

Thoughtspart3

This is a longer than usual wait.  However, it makes sense because they put a lot of extra time into the TA. It will be here before we know it and we will be  :metal :metal :metal

The Curious Orange

There's a lot to love about TA, but for me it just doesn't work as a whole. I'm hoping the I&W tour will go someway to "reset" the band and we get something truly special.

Renzo

Quote from: gzarruk on October 22, 2017, 03:45:53 PM
Jordan confirms they'll start working on the new album around May or June 2018: https://youtu.be/eMFGkfgPCiU?t=9m52s

They could drop a single on September maybe..

mikeyd23

Quote from: gzarruk on October 20, 2017, 09:09:18 PM
Quote from: Adami on October 20, 2017, 07:03:44 PM
Quote from: SystematicThought on October 20, 2017, 05:56:44 PM
I'm mainly concerned about his sound. Astonishing was a step in the right direction, but his drums never sound like an acoustic kit, it always sounds triggered or processed. I know a raw sound doesn't fit DT, but I would love a drum sound like Jeremy Stacey on Steven Wilson's To The Bone.

His drums on ADTOE were super raw. To an extreme. They need to find that middle ground. Well mixed and semi-processed without going too far.

That's why they need Nolly Getgood mixing their albums  :hefdaddy

No kidding. I'd absolutely love it if they tapped Nolly to engineer and mix the record. His drum sounds in particular are among the best out there.

gzarruk

Quote from: Renzo on October 23, 2017, 05:09:16 AM
Quote from: gzarruk on October 22, 2017, 03:45:53 PM
Jordan confirms they'll start working on the new album around May or June 2018: https://youtu.be/eMFGkfgPCiU?t=9m52s

They could drop a single on September maybe..

That's if they go for a late 2018 release, but I think RR would push it down to early 2019. Hope I'm wrong!

Quote from: mikeyd23 on October 23, 2017, 07:19:44 AM
Quote from: gzarruk on October 20, 2017, 09:09:18 PM
Quote from: Adami on October 20, 2017, 07:03:44 PM
Quote from: SystematicThought on October 20, 2017, 05:56:44 PM
I'm mainly concerned about his sound. Astonishing was a step in the right direction, but his drums never sound like an acoustic kit, it always sounds triggered or processed. I know a raw sound doesn't fit DT, but I would love a drum sound like Jeremy Stacey on Steven Wilson's To The Bone.

His drums on ADTOE were super raw. To an extreme. They need to find that middle ground. Well mixed and semi-processed without going too far.

That's why they need Nolly Getgood mixing their albums  :hefdaddy

No kidding. I'd absolutely love it if they tapped Nolly to engineer and mix the record. His drum sounds in particular are among the best out there.

We only need JP to realize this  :lol

Anxiety35

What kind of album would you like DT14 to be?

A good one.

:tup

gzarruk

Quote from: Anxiety35 on October 26, 2017, 11:42:09 AM
What kind of album would you like DT14 to be?

A good one.

:tup

That could be said of any DT album so far, so I think it's a given  :biggrin:

IDontNotDoThings

Quote from: robin5749 on October 21, 2017, 09:18:51 AM
probably more like dt self titled.
but they always do something special.
yea maybe a guest or two.
I would like a jazz fusion type track like weather report.
an acoustic guitar trio maybe steve morse and al de meola.
an acoustic prog epic along the lines of yes.
and the epic of all time last track featuring guest appearance by Mikael from opeth doing death growl vocals.
well that's what I imagined on my run yesterday.
little chance of any of this.

Hey, when did this become the abstract poetry thread?  :lol