Best and worst snare sound on a DT album?

hockeydude25 · May 27, 2018, 11:00:18 PM

I would say the best is either Awake or ACOS.

Worst is definitely DT12.

Fritzinger · May 28, 2018, 12:36:38 AM

Worst either DT12 or Images & Words.

Best definitely Falling Into Infinity!

YtseJamittaja · May 28, 2018, 02:14:11 AM

Mangini's snare sound is not near as good as MP's. He still hasn't found a good snare sound. So worst sounding snares are MM era albums and WDADU.

Best snare: from SDOIT to SC

Elite · May 28, 2018, 03:06:19 AM

Quote from: Fritzinger on May 28, 2018, 12:36:38 AM
Best definitely Falling Into Infinity!

Considering FII is their best-sounding album in general, this is an easy pick.

nikatapi · May 28, 2018, 04:45:29 AM

Worst is definitely DT12, pretty much atrocious i would say.
Best, i would say SDOIT or FII.

gzarruk · May 28, 2018, 04:54:40 AM

Quote from: hockeydude25 on May 27, 2018, 11:00:18 PM
I would say the best is either Awake or ACOS.

You are definitely a fan of MP's Mapex drum kit, aren't you?

(for those who don't know, MP used Mapex for Awake and ACOS, before returning to Tama for FII).

As to Mangini not sounding as good as Portnoy in albums, that's basically JP's fault, as he's producing the albums.

I'll try to listen to a couple songs from each album today to have an objective answer to the OP.

darkshade · May 28, 2018, 06:45:44 AM

Best:
Awake
TOT
FII
ACOS
SDOIT

Worst:
WDADU
TA
I&W
DT12

mikeyd23 · May 28, 2018, 07:49:44 AM

Nothing too surprising here - I'd say the best are FII and SDOIT.

Worst is probably DT12.

TheCountOfNYC · May 28, 2018, 12:35:45 PM

Best: Awake
Worst: A Change of Seasons

Anxiety35 · May 28, 2018, 02:09:30 PM

Best - ACOS
Worst - I&W and DT12 (tie)

MP didn't use a piccolo snare on ACOS as some have thought. He just cranked that sucker super tight to get a high pitch. I really enjoy that snare sound. It's a great tuning for prog stuff because it's a quick sound and definitive.

My second favorite would be the snare on Systematic Chaos. It had some depth to it and not as much "boing" or an after ring as other albums like FII, SFAM.

The Walrus · May 28, 2018, 03:39:00 PM

Best is Awake, worst is DT12.

Bertie_Wooster · May 28, 2018, 05:24:06 PM

I like the drums on DT12. I also like them on St Anger.

Fritzinger · May 29, 2018, 03:08:34 AM

Quote from: Bertie_Wooster on May 28, 2018, 05:24:06 PM
I like the drums on DT12. I also like them on St Anger.

I agree on St. Anger. But DT12's snare literally makes me angry.

ChuckSteak · May 29, 2018, 04:03:24 AM

Best: FII
Worst: Any album with Mangini

commanderbob · May 29, 2018, 04:08:51 AM

I enjoy almost all DT snare sounds, including DT12. The on exception is ADTOE (too weak and thin for me).

Shooters1221 · May 30, 2018, 01:42:33 AM

Best: Awake

Worst: IaW

Dublagent66 · May 30, 2018, 03:11:47 PM

Awake snare has always stood out as my fav. So clean and crisp. FII is the worst. Sounds tinny and hollow.

Herrick · May 30, 2018, 07:02:45 PM

I'm not sure what the best is but the worst is DT12 followed by Images and Words.

RaiseTheKnife · May 30, 2018, 07:04:54 PM

Quote from: Anxiety35 on May 28, 2018, 02:09:30 PM
Best - ACOS
Worst - I&W and DT12 (tie)

MP didn't use a piccolo snare on ACOS as some have thought. He just cranked that sucker super tight to get a high pitch. I really enjoy that snare sound. It's a great tuning for prog stuff because it's a quick sound and definitive.

Couldn't agree more.

Ninjabait · May 30, 2018, 07:27:06 PM

Best
ACoS
FII
Octavarium
ADToE
SC
SDoIT/ToT/BC&SL
The Astonishing
SfaM
Awake
I&W
DT12
Worst

Never really paid much attention to this before now, so my list is totally all over the place. Also totally unsure of how to rank Octavarium and SDoIT/ToT/BC&SL but I guess where they are is fine? Maybe? ACoS is definitely the winner for me though. That 90s piccolo snare-type sound that was all the rage in grunge/alternative is one of my favorite snare sounds period.

gzarruk · June 09, 2018, 05:31:52 PM

MP era:

Best: SC (not a popular opinion)
Worst: WDADU

MM era:

Best: ADTOE
Worst: DT12

pcs90 · June 10, 2018, 12:00:26 AM

The worst is easy...DT12.

As far as the best, I really like MP's snare tuning for Awake as well as the IW tour and ACOS. Super cranked.

FII has a very natural sound to it, so that'd be the runner up.

CrimsonSunrise · June 27, 2018, 02:35:28 PM

Even though it's my favorite piece of music, the snare on ACOS has always struck me as ...off.

ZirconBlue · June 28, 2018, 09:33:24 AM

Quote from: CrimsonSunrise on June 27, 2018, 02:35:28 PM
Even though it's my favorite piece of music, the snare on ACOS has always struck me as ...off.

Ditto. I am shocked to see people listing it under "best". To me it sounds really tinny and lacks resonance. Like the head was cranked way too tight.

Bertielee · June 28, 2018, 12:00:16 PM

Quote from: ZirconBlue on June 28, 2018, 09:33:24 AM
Quote from: CrimsonSunrise on June 27, 2018, 02:35:28 PM
Even though it's my favorite piece of music, the snare on ACOS has always struck me as ...off.

Ditto. I am shocked to see people listing it under "best". To me it sounds really tinny and lacks resonance. Like the head was cranked way too tight.

The same, here. I don't like the snare sound on ACOS at all.

B.Lee

gzarruk · June 28, 2018, 01:07:32 PM

Quote from: Bertielee on June 28, 2018, 12:00:16 PM
Quote from: ZirconBlue on June 28, 2018, 09:33:24 AM
Quote from: CrimsonSunrise on June 27, 2018, 02:35:28 PM
Even though it's my favorite piece of music, the snare on ACOS has always struck me as ...off.

Ditto. I am shocked to see people listing it under "best". To me it sounds really tinny and lacks resonance. Like the head was cranked way too tight.

The same, here. I don't like the snare sound on ACOS at all.

B.Lee

Count me in as well. ACOS is one of the worst. Even Portnoy disliked it and said it was Prater's fault.

Robo4900 · July 04, 2018, 12:05:19 PM

Best: Awake.

Worst: DT12.

Honestly, I never had much of a problem with the I&W snare. It's a goofy thing, but it adds to that whole weird '80s vibe Images And Word's production had, which I quite like. Now, granted, they probably could have got a better snare that fits the I&W sound a lot better without using triggers, but... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anxiety35 · July 05, 2018, 06:56:08 AM

I mentioned this in another thread that I listened to Systematic Chaos the other day. I like the snare on that record. It's not my favorite DT snare sound, but I really like it. It's not ringy as FII or SFAM but it has a little lower tuning to it that gives it some depth. When MP plays ghost notes you can hear a great articulation on the snare.

gzarruk · July 05, 2018, 07:01:12 AM

Quote from: Anxiety35 on July 05, 2018, 06:56:08 AM
I mentioned this in another thread that I listened to Systematic Chaos the other day. I like the snare on that record. It's not my favorite DT snare sound, but I really like it. It's not ringy as FII or SFAM but it has a little lower tuning to it that gives it some depth. When MP plays ghost notes you can hear a great articulation on the snare.

I think it's my favorite snare sound from the MP era DT. The sound, just as you described it, fits the album very well.

PixelDream · July 06, 2018, 12:34:02 PM

I always dig MP's snare sounds a lot. ACOS sticks out like a sore thumb but everything else is fine, especially Awake, FII and SDOIT. And just to continue beating a dead horse, MM's snares just sound dead, also in a live setting. His cymbals too. Really don't know how they could screw that up.. he's a fantastic drummer, so why have such tinny sounds.

Robo4900 · July 06, 2018, 02:32:33 PM

I actually really like Mangini's snare sounds live, and I quite liked his snare sound on Dramatic Turn aswell. IMO, it was only really DT12 that had a problem there.

ZKX-2099 · July 06, 2018, 09:26:35 PM

I like the self titled snare. $:-\$

Gives the whole album a crisp uniqueness that I enjoy.

News:

Best and worst snare sound on a DT album?