PARASOMNIA '25 Tour!!!

[DTiwbwMP]

Seems to me that the OFFICIAL "Parasomnia" tour will begin in September 2025 AFTER the summer European festival/headline shows. I would think the Tour would begin in either South or North America. Since it seems the album will be played in full for set 1, I do believe set 2 will be the 12 step suite with possibly (HOPEFULLY) ACOS as the encore. I'm ALL IN for that! Thoughts?

[Schurftkut]

no 12SS, that would really turn off many people in the fanbase. ACOS for encore is fine

[Dream Team]

You might want to correct the spelling in the thread title; you spelled it correctly afterward. 

[Stadler]

I'm all for the 12SS, I saw it in NYC and it was killer, but I don't think I want it with the new album too.  That might be a little much for "themes".  I don't know.  I would take it if they did it, though.

[Deadeye21]

I think there's a few more classics that I'd like to see. There are entire albums that have been left out of this run that deserve some representation, like Six Degrees and Black Clouds. I definitely don't wanna see 12SS with the full Parasomnia.

[JiM-Xtreme]

Although it's been played in full with different musicians, I believe it's very important to MP personally to play 12SS in full as part of DT, especially so with this specific line-up who recorded all 5 songs together. So I think it's odds-on to happen as I'm sure MP wants to tick it off his bucket list.

However for reasons other have said I don't think it's likely to be played throughout a tour leg. I feel it's rather likely to be played on one of the occasions were they play the same venue two nights back to back, possibly along with TBOT.

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

I don't want to see the 12SS but I want to see specific songs from it. The entire thing in one DT show is too self indulgent and musically a bit boring for the length. There are entire albums that were left off the tour. I'd much rather see one or two songs like glass prison, this dying soul, and then songs from albums that weren't played like SDOIT, BCSL, DT12, TA, View.

[Max Kuehnau]

as either Hef or Scotty had mentioned previously, them doing the 12SS is quite unlikely for some reasons. One is because they missed that window for it (MP doing it in 2017 amongst other reasons) and the other is that it would take up so much time in the programme (58 minutes or thereabouts) that it's fairly pointless from that POV too.

[devieira73]

Seems to me that the OFFICIAL "Parasomnia" tour will begin in September 2025 AFTER the summer European festival/headline shows. I would think the Tour would begin in either South or North America. Since it seems the album will be played in full for set 1, I do believe set 2 will be the 12 step suite with possibly (HOPEFULLY) ACOS as the encore. I'm ALL IN for that! Thoughts?

It seems more likely that the Parasomnia tour will be already this next summer european tour, with just a shorter setlist for the festival shows. I think it doesn't make much sense another 40th anniversary tour for Europe next year. Anyway, let's see.

[DTiwbwMP]

It seems more likely that the Parasomnia tour will be already this next summer european tour, with just a shorter setlist for the festival shows.

I respectfully disagree. The PARASOMNIA Tour cycle will feature the album in full. That's been stated multiple times by James. Now, it's possible there may be a tweak or two for the summer set (probably including a 2nd song from the new album), but it won't feature a completely different setlist. I stand by a SEPTEMBER album cycle beginning with the tour finally closing in '26 in Europe or Asia.

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

I'm all for the 12SS, I saw it in NYC and it was killer, but I don't think I want it with the new album too.  That might be a little much for "themes".  I don't know.  I would take it if they did it, though.

[DTiwbwMP]

Just to clarify....I'm not advocating for the 12ss. I'm on record as saying that I don't believe it could ever be performed better than The Shattered Fortress show I saw in NYC, BUT, I do think that if MP asks the band to perform it, this is as good a time as any.

[devieira73]

I respectfully disagree. The PARASOMNIA Tour cycle will feature the album in full. That's been stated multiple times by James. Now, it's possible there may be a tweak or two for the summer set (probably including a 2nd song from the new album), but it won't feature a completely different setlist. I stand by a SEPTEMBER album cycle beginning with the tour finally closing in '26 in Europe or Asia.

But, I don't know if you noticed, this summer tour will be only until 1 July and, for the rest of the dates announced from July on, it seems more like regular DT headline shows. Considering that the 40th Anniversary tour is happening now in Europe and the new album will have been released since February, so, it's just a guessing, but I think those festival's set lists will already be a taste of the Parasomnia tour from July on.

https://dreamtheater.net/tour/

[hefdaddy42]

I think this would be a terrible time to play the 12SS.

[DTiwbwMP]

I think this would be a terrible time to play the 12SS.

Just curious. WHY?

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

Just curious. WHY?

Way too much time of the setlist dedicated to one aspect of DT's career retrospective instead of a healthier mix of everything. I'd rather take the current setlist over one where they do the entire 12SS

[YngVai]

You'd basically be looking at a set comprised completely of a new album (which who knows, could be as divisive as TA), and another taken up entirely by one set of songs from the same relative era. When your catalogue is as extensive and generally loved as DT's, you'd be doing the fans a disservice leaving so little room for surprises.

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

Just curious. WHY?

My personal take on why a bad idea is just how much time it would occupy and how it would deliver relatively little diversity. I get everyone is still super excited about the reunion but does it translate into a broad desire to hear a MP project got half the set. I'm not sure it does based on feedback here at least.

[durga2112]

I think that, realistically, there are only two ways they ever play the entire 12SS in a concert:

1. As a one-off, Very Special Evening with Dream Theater show that is filmed for a Blu-ray release and advertised as the ultimate DT experience with an extended setlist

2. As part of a tour where they do something like what Metallica has been doing recently: they play two shows in each city, one featuring the 12SS along with maybe a heavier setlist, and one with a more varied setlist

[TAC]

2. As part of a tour where they do something like what Metallica has been doing recently: they play two shows in each city, one featuring the 12SS along with maybe a heavier setlist, and one with a more varied setlist

I like this idea.

[wolfking]

Seems to me that the OFFICIAL "Parasomnia" tour will begin in September 2025 AFTER the summer European festival/headline shows. I would think the Tour would begin in either South or North America. Since it seems the album will be played in full for set 1, I do believe set 2 will be the 12 step suite with possibly (HOPEFULLY) ACOS as the encore. I'm ALL IN for that! Thoughts?

Maybe I've missed something but has this been spoken about by the band?

Also, Australia please.

[nobloodyname]

No, it hasn't.

[wolfking]

Didn't think so. 

[hefdaddy42]

Just curious. WHY?

Because if the first set is the new album, and the second set is the 12SS, then there is not really any variety to the show.  I can see this being ALMOST as alienating to some fans as the tour for The Astonishing was (in kind, not in degree).

[Max Kuehnau]

yeah although my guess is they won't play the 12SS because, honestly, they missed the window for it (and MP did by himself in 2017, at the time he mentioned not wanting to do it with DT, although he wasn't in the band either so), my guess is they will play the album entirely in one half and then other pieces in the other

[macneil]

2. As part of a tour where they do something like what Metallica has been doing recently: they play two shows in each city, one featuring the 12SS along with maybe a heavier setlist, and one with a more varied setlist

DT doing a no repeat weekend would be pretty cool.

[Laughingplace56]

I think that, realistically, there are only two ways they ever play the entire 12SS in a concert:

1. As a one-off, Very Special Evening with Dream Theater show that is filmed for a Blu-ray release and advertised as the ultimate DT experience with an extended setlist

2. As part of a tour where they do something like what Metallica has been doing recently: they play two shows in each city, one featuring the 12SS along with maybe a heavier setlist, and one with a more varied setlist

I'm at the point where I think point 1 is likely. Point 2, where there's essentially 2 different DT concerts 2 nights in a row, would be a dream come true. But I feel that's the least likely scenario of all.

I also agree that doing Parasomnia in full, then the 12SS in full, with 1 epic as the encore is not the best choice for a varied set to please as many DT fans as possible. That being said, selfishly I am praying that's exactly what happens because seeing the 12SS in full would be fucking killer to me lol. 4/5 songs just kick ass. But I would settle for a TGP/TDS double feature.

At the VERY least, I hope 6DOIT Disc 1 gets some love soon. Besides the very brief playing of TGD in 2011, that side of the album was neglected for the entirety of the MM years. I would take literally any set MP wants to make should it include TGP, Blind Faith, Misunderstood, or TGD.

[Deadeye21]

Despite it being the most recently played, I'd like to see Shattered Fortress come back, being the one song from 12Step that MP didn't get to play with the band. Settle for he's played em all with DT rather than he played them all in one show with DT.

At the VERY least, I hope 6DOIT Disc 1 gets some love soon. Besides the very brief playing of TGD in 2011, that side of the album was neglected for the entirety of the MM years. I would take literally any set MP wants to make should it include TGP, Blind Faith, Misunderstood, or TGD.

Very much this. Hell, even if it's JR and James doing a piano and vocal only version of Disappear, I'd take it!

[Samsara]

as either Hef or Scotty had mentioned previously, them doing the 12SS is quite unlikely for some reasons. One is because they missed that window for it (MP doing it in 2017 amongst other reasons) and the other is that it would take up so much time in the programme (58 minutes or thereabouts) that it's fairly pointless from that POV too.

I could see DT reviving the "Home for the Holidays" tradition in late 2025, and doing a one-off that features the 12SS. Combine that with some other deep tracks and covers, and it'd be a nice way to cap off 2025...

[durga2112]

I could see DT reviving the "Home for the Holidays" tradition in late 2025, and doing a one-off that features the 12SS. Combine that with some other deep tracks and covers, and it'd be a nice way to cap off 2025...

Ooh, I really like this idea! Add "The Best of Times" and some other songs that have never been played live before and it would almost be like a concert equivalent of Cleaning out the Closet.

[EPIC Outro]

I feel extremely confident they will play the 12SS at some point. But maybe not just yet.