Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with moment of betrayal!)

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dream75

Quote from: bosk1 on January 08, 2016, 08:04:17 AM
Quote from: chego_voice on January 08, 2016, 07:42:42 AM
Quote from: SkiFiX on January 08, 2016, 07:39:53 AM
Quote from: bosk1 on January 04, 2016, 09:37:48 AM
This should be a VERY fun week.  Looking forward to it.  :corn

I already finished my popcorn... :facepalm: ;D

:corn this is my 4th bag...  :sad:
:lol  Sorry.  But the week is not over yet...  :corn


Another day without news !!! The week is over now  :facepalm: :tdwn :censored

RoeDent

Quote from: dream75 on January 08, 2016, 12:51:15 PM
Another day without news !!! The week is over now  :facepalm: :tdwn :censored

Still 3 hours of Friday left here (8 hours in NY, where DT are based), and Saturday and Sunday too.

Jinx

Well seeing as the 9th (tomorrow of course) is the day that those various magazines go on sale I truly believe that the floodgates of info will open on here and on the TA site too  :tup

Enigmachine

Quote from: Jinx on January 08, 2016, 01:01:44 PM
Well seeing as the 9th (tomorrow of course) is the day that those various magazines go on sale I truly believe that the floodgates of info will open on here and on the TA site too  :tup

Yeah, I think that makes sense.

YouMakeMeSick

Quote from: dream75 on January 08, 2016, 12:51:15 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on January 08, 2016, 08:04:17 AM
Quote from: chego_voice on January 08, 2016, 07:42:42 AM
Quote from: SkiFiX on January 08, 2016, 07:39:53 AM
Quote from: bosk1 on January 04, 2016, 09:37:48 AM
This should be a VERY fun week.  Looking forward to it.  :corn

I already finished my popcorn... :facepalm: ;D

:corn this is my 4th bag...  :sad:
:lol  Sorry.  But the week is not over yet...  :corn


Another day without news !!! The week is over now  :facepalm: :tdwn :censored

I hope nothing major has happened and that the album's release is not affected. If some updates haven't happened as they were originally scheduled, that can also mean that we could get them in shorter timespans in between for the next couple of weeks leading up to release date.

bosk1

Yeah, it's hard to say.  The schedule has been fluid and has changed repeatedly (as it was designed to do), but has stayed fairly close to schedule most of the time.  But there actually was something specifically scheduled for today, so I am surprised it has not happened.  I would keep eyes opened next week though.

chego_voice


SwedishGoose

Quote from: bosk1 on January 08, 2016, 01:36:47 PM
Yeah, it's hard to say.  The schedule has been fluid and has changed repeatedly (as it was designed to do), but has stayed fairly close to schedule most of the time.  But there actually was something specifically scheduled for today, so I am surprised it has not happened.  I would keep eyes opened next week though.

Well, today is not over yet is it?     :corn

TAC

Quote from: bosk1 on January 08, 2016, 01:36:47 PM
   I would keep eyes opened next week though.

We've heard that before!

:neverusethis:


Seriously, I am really looking forward to this album. The anticipated use of James' range, piano, etc..have me very pumped.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

bosk1

Quote from: SwedishGoose on January 08, 2016, 01:40:57 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on January 08, 2016, 01:36:47 PM
Yeah, it's hard to say.  The schedule has been fluid and has changed repeatedly (as it was designed to do), but has stayed fairly close to schedule most of the time.  But there actually was something specifically scheduled for today, so I am surprised it has not happened.  I would keep eyes opened next week though.

Well, today is not over yet is it?     :corn

No, but it's close to 5:00 p.m. on the East Coast, so I doubt we will get anything today if it hasn't happened yet.

King Postwhore

Quote from: TAC on January 08, 2016, 01:44:07 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on January 08, 2016, 01:36:47 PM
   I would keep eyes opened next week though.

We've heard that before!

:neverusethis:


Seriously, I am really looking forward to this album. The anticipated use of James' range, piano, etc..have me very pumped.

Jacked and pumped?  Lol
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

TAC

Quote from: kingshmegland on January 08, 2016, 01:47:14 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 08, 2016, 01:44:07 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on January 08, 2016, 01:36:47 PM
   I would keep eyes opened next week though.

We've heard that before!

:neverusethis:


Seriously, I am really looking forward to this album. The anticipated use of James' range, piano, etc..have me very pumped.

Jacked and pumped?  Lol

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

chego_voice

Quote from: bosk1 on January 08, 2016, 01:45:16 PM
Quote from: SwedishGoose on January 08, 2016, 01:40:57 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on January 08, 2016, 01:36:47 PM
Yeah, it's hard to say.  The schedule has been fluid and has changed repeatedly (as it was designed to do), but has stayed fairly close to schedule most of the time.  But there actually was something specifically scheduled for today, so I am surprised it has not happened.  I would keep eyes opened next week though.

Well, today is not over yet is it?     :corn

No, but it's close to 5:00 p.m. on the East Coast, so I doubt we will get anything today if it hasn't happened yet.


Pax

I'm a noob when it comes to bying CD's and such (I've never bought a CD in my life before, lol). Those ''HD tracks'' are something I've never heard before. I always thought when you buy CD, it's the best sounding version possible, and it's always better than listening to it on youtube, and such. But wait, you're telling me if you buy regular CD, you're actually not getting the best sounding version possible, or what? I'm confused now :S

Lucien

Quote from: Pax on January 08, 2016, 02:00:54 PM
I'm a noob when it comes to bying CD's and such (I've never bought a CD in my life before, lol). Those ''HD tracks'' are something I've never heard before. I always thought when you buy CD, it's the best sounding version possible, and it's always better than listening to it on youtube, and such. But wait, you're telling me if you buy regular CD, you're actually not getting the best sounding version possible, or what? I'm confused now :S

Well, there's definitely a reason why people say vinyls have better quality sound than CDs. Think about that

nikatapi

Quote from: Pax on January 08, 2016, 02:00:54 PM
I'm a noob when it comes to bying CD's and such (I've never bought a CD in my life before, lol). Those ''HD tracks'' are something I've never heard before. I always thought when you buy CD, it's the best sounding version possible, and it's always better than listening to it on youtube, and such. But wait, you're telling me if you buy regular CD, you're actually not getting the best sounding version possible, or what? I'm confused now :S

Well, the HDtracks versions usually have a different mastering applied, so they sound more dynamic. They could release the same master on CDs, but the HDtracks is one more way to get more money out of the album.

Kotowboy

CDs should really be the best sound but then Death Magnetic.

Train of Naught


noxon

Quote from: Lucien on January 08, 2016, 02:03:13 PM


Well, there's definitely a reason why people say vinyls have better quality sound than CDs. Think about that


... but just because people say that, it doesn't actually make it true by any stretch of the imagination

Enigmachine

Quote from: nikatapi on January 08, 2016, 02:27:11 PM
Well, the HDtracks versions usually have a different mastering applied, so they sound more dynamic. They could release the same master on CDs, but the HDtracks is one more way to get more money out of the album.

Is there even a need for it this time around though? IIRC Blob said a few pages ago that one of the heaviest songs on the album had a dynamic range of DR8, which is pretty high by today's standards.

RMGadelha

Other than the way James changes character, I'm most curious about JP's solos. I missed a beautiful and emotional Octavarium like solo in the last record. Something along the lines of Goodnight Kiss would also be great.

King Postwhore

It's one more way for a revenue stream.   Think of it this way.  You see the new Star Wars in the theater then you see it again in IMAX 3D.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Bertie_Wooster


Kotowboy

Quote from: noxon on January 08, 2016, 02:32:17 PM
Quote from: Lucien on January 08, 2016, 02:03:13 PM


Well, there's definitely a reason why people say vinyls have better quality sound than CDs. Think about that


... but just because people say that, it doesn't actually make it true by any stretch of the imagination


We covered this on my music degree. CDs don't bother with the frequencies that humans can't hear ( 20hz-20,000hz ).

Records do have these freqs and they resonate sympathetically with the audible freqs making vinyl appear warmer to us.

But CD doesn't wear out over time or get dirty etc.

TL

Quote from: Lucien on January 08, 2016, 02:03:13 PM
Quote from: Pax on January 08, 2016, 02:00:54 PM
I'm a noob when it comes to bying CD's and such (I've never bought a CD in my life before, lol). Those ''HD tracks'' are something I've never heard before. I always thought when you buy CD, it's the best sounding version possible, and it's always better than listening to it on youtube, and such. But wait, you're telling me if you buy regular CD, you're actually not getting the best sounding version possible, or what? I'm confused now :S

Well, there's definitely a reason why people say vinyls have better quality sound than CDs. Think about that

CD is capable of sounding better than vinyl.
The thing is, many of the mixing/mastering decisions that make CDs sound bad literally can't be done on vinyl. Digital makes it possible to crank the volume well past the natural limits. If you used a master like that on vinyl, the needle would literally jump out of the groove. Vinyl basically forces the use of a decent mastering, or at least one that isn't over compressed.

dparrott

Quote from: Kotowboy on January 08, 2016, 03:05:51 PM
Quote from: noxon on January 08, 2016, 02:32:17 PM
Quote from: Lucien on January 08, 2016, 02:03:13 PM


Well, there's definitely a reason why people say vinyls have better quality sound than CDs. Think about that


... but just because people say that, it doesn't actually make it true by any stretch of the imagination


We covered this on my music degree. CDs don't bother with the frequencies that humans can't hear ( 20hz-20,000hz ).

Records do have these freqs and they resonate sympathetically with the audible freqs making vinyl appear warmer to us.

But CD doesn't wear out over time or get dirty etc.

Didn't we already establish the fact that, aside from mastering, HD tracks are just a marketing gimmick?

BlackInk

I gotta say, when you're drunk as shit as I am right now, this thread is really confusing to read through.

The Achtunganshing.

King Postwhore

Quote from: BlackInk on January 08, 2016, 04:30:07 PM
I gotta say, when you're drunk as shit as I am right now, this thread is really confusing to read through.

The Achtunganshing.

You should quote and interpret for us right now some of the posts.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

RMGadelha

Quote from: BlackInk on January 08, 2016, 04:30:07 PM
I gotta say, when you're drunk as shit as I am right now, this thread is really confusing to read through.

The Achtunganshing.

Eintritt verboten?

CDrice

Quote from: BlackInk on January 08, 2016, 04:30:07 PM
I gotta say, when you're drunk as shit as I am right now, this thread is really confusing to read through.

The Achtunganshing.

Whahíbrido Pickingant

BlackInk

Quote from: kingshmegland on January 08, 2016, 04:31:43 PM
Quote from: BlackInk on January 08, 2016, 04:30:07 PM
I gotta say, when you're drunk as shit as I am right now, this thread is really confusing to read through.

The Achtunganshing.

You should quote and interpret for us right now some of the posts.

You got it.

Quote from: kingshmegland on January 08, 2016, 02:36:52 PM
It's one more way for a revenue stream.   Think of it this way.  You see the new Star Wars in the theater then you see it again in IMAX 3D.

This is obvouxly a metaphore for modern western consumerism.

Quote from: noxon on January 08, 2016, 02:32:17 PM
Quote from: Lucien on January 08, 2016, 02:03:13 PM


Well, there's definitely a reason why people say vinyls have better quality sound than CDs. Think about that


... but just because people say that, it doesn't actually make it true by any stretch of the imagination

This is a comment on the lmitations of human imagination. Deep shit.

King Postwhore

"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Podaar


BlackInk

Quote from: bosk1 on January 08, 2016, 09:17:54 AM
Quote from: ErHaO on January 08, 2016, 09:01:15 AMAfter the fantastic Rolling Stone "reveal" I am kind of surprised how they are handling things so far.

What do you mean, "how they are handling things?"  Who is "they" and how are they not "handling things" properly?  ???

Exactly 50% or 6his sentence is in quotation marks, indicating a lack of self-confidence and ability to exprtess yourself using your own words.

Quote from: nikatapi on January 08, 2016, 02:27:11 PM
Well, the HDtracks versions usually have a different mastering applied, so they sound more dynamic. They could release the same master on CDs, but the HDtracks is one more way to get more money out of the album.

Thisa post is made by a greek guy.