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Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with moment of betrayal!)

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Nomaniac

So assuming DT reveals two songs like they did with the last record, which song do you guys think they'll reveal next?


Zydar


Nihil-Morari

Quote from: Lowdz on December 04, 2015, 01:20:25 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on December 04, 2015, 01:07:51 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on December 04, 2015, 12:56:47 PM
Bet they don't get this worked up about stuff at the Kanye forum.  :biggrin:

"Yo, James, Imma let you finish.  But first I wanna show that I have the most pitch corrected voice of all tiiiimeeeee!"

Ftfy


:lol

Nomaniac


Train of Naught

Quote from: Nomaniac on December 04, 2015, 01:29:55 PM
So assuming DT reveals two songs like they did with the last record, which song do you guys think they'll reveal next?


Astonishing

Nomaniac

Man I wish! I think that's too good to be true though :biggrin:

Maybe something like: A New Beginning, My Last Farewell, Chosen???

DreamTension

Can anyone point out a section in Dream Theater song that has a simultaneous, dualing solo section like the end of TGOM?

Jordan's keyboard sound, mixed with the way they are playing, conjures images (and words) in my mind of an epic music battle between a NOMAC and real musician as they fly over the city.

nattmorker

I don't think they will reveal any more songs, unless it is an instrumental. If they reveal something with lyrics, it might be spoiling the plot.

jsbru

Quote from: DreamTension on December 04, 2015, 01:45:40 PM
Can anyone point out a section in Dream Theater song that has a simultaneous, dualing solo section like the end of TGOM?

Jordan's keyboard sound, mixed with the way they are playing, conjures images (and words) in my mind of an epic music battle between a NOMAC and real musician as they fly over the city.

Interesting...I'll listen for that on the way home from work.

Nomaniac

Quote from: nattmorker on December 04, 2015, 01:47:06 PM
I don't think they will reveal any more songs, unless it is an instrumental. If they reveal something with lyrics, it might be spoiling the plot.

I'm still hoping for a Dance of Eternity/Erotomania/Ytse Jam type song on this album. Digital DIscord would be the perfect track for it - some other track names would really fit it as well! Whatever DT decides to do is fine by me, but still . . . fingers crossed for that.

Pragmaticcircus


Tomislav95

I just played The Gift of Music to my sister and before vocals kick in she asked if that's Rush :lol that's good sing, I think :D

Pragmaticcircus


Pragmaticcircus

Quote from: Nomaniac on December 04, 2015, 02:01:19 PM
Quote from: nattmorker on December 04, 2015, 01:47:06 PM
I don't think they will reveal any more songs, unless it is an instrumental. If they reveal something with lyrics, it might be spoiling the plot.

I'm still hoping for a Dance of Eternity/Erotomania/Ytse Jam type song on this album. Digital DIscord would be the perfect track for it - some other track names would really fit it as well! Whatever DT decides to do is fine by me, but still . . . fingers crossed for that.

Better be!  :metal

wolven74

Quote from: nattmorker on December 04, 2015, 01:47:06 PM
I don't think they will reveal any more songs, unless it is an instrumental. If they reveal something with lyrics, it might be spoiling the plot.
This. With this being a concept album, with a story, I doubt they'll give us a "single" as per the usual marketing strategy. I'm good with that. I mean, it is only just over a month from release. Thinking in those terms it seems not so far off.

Dublagent66


Pragmaticcircus


SchecterShredder

Quote from: DreamTension on December 04, 2015, 01:45:40 PM
Can anyone point out a section in Dream Theater song that has a simultaneous, dualing solo section like the end of TGOM?

Jordan's keyboard sound, mixed with the way they are playing, conjures images (and words) in my mind of an epic music battle between a NOMAC and real musician as they fly over the city.

The call-and-answer section before the solo in Lost Not Forgotten is similar, but way more technical. It's similar to the unison after the solo in Panic Attack too, IMO.

DreamTension

Quote from: SchecterShredder on December 04, 2015, 02:43:57 PM
Quote from: DreamTension on December 04, 2015, 01:45:40 PM
Can anyone point out a section in Dream Theater song that has a simultaneous, dualing solo section like the end of TGOM?

Jordan's keyboard sound, mixed with the way they are playing, conjures images (and words) in my mind of an epic music battle between a NOMAC and real musician as they fly over the city.

The call-and-answer section before the solo in Lost Not Forgotten is similar, but way more technical. It's similar to the unison after the solo in Panic Attack too, IMO.

Both of those parts they are playing in unison or not at the same time. I can't think of any section of a DT song where 2 people are soloing at the same time that is not a unison.

SchecterShredder

Quote from: DreamTension on December 04, 2015, 02:52:53 PM
Quote from: SchecterShredder on December 04, 2015, 02:43:57 PM
Quote from: DreamTension on December 04, 2015, 01:45:40 PM
Can anyone point out a section in Dream Theater song that has a simultaneous, dualing solo section like the end of TGOM?

Jordan's keyboard sound, mixed with the way they are playing, conjures images (and words) in my mind of an epic music battle between a NOMAC and real musician as they fly over the city.

The call-and-answer section before the solo in Lost Not Forgotten is similar, but way more technical. It's similar to the unison after the solo in Panic Attack too, IMO.

Both of those parts they are playing in unison or not at the same time. I can't think of any section of a DT song where 2 people are soloing at the same time that is not a unison.



I guess that's true. I suppose  I'll have to ponder this question a little more on the train ride home

Darkstarshades

Instead of a spinning keyboard, JR will now have a floating one, on a miniature NOMAC.

RaasMah

Quote from: DreamTension on December 04, 2015, 02:52:53 PM
Quote from: SchecterShredder on December 04, 2015, 02:43:57 PM
Quote from: DreamTension on December 04, 2015, 01:45:40 PM
Can anyone point out a section in Dream Theater song that has a simultaneous, dualing solo section like the end of TGOM?

Jordan's keyboard sound, mixed with the way they are playing, conjures images (and words) in my mind of an epic music battle between a NOMAC and real musician as they fly over the city.

The call-and-answer section before the solo in Lost Not Forgotten is similar, but way more technical. It's similar to the unison after the solo in Panic Attack too, IMO.

Both of those parts they are playing in unison or not at the same time. I can't think of any section of a DT song where 2 people are soloing at the same time that is not a unison.

Pretty sure TDEN has something like the in the instrumental break before the solo. Not sure though

Kotowboy

The final minute of On The Backs Of Angels has always sounded like a clusterfuck to me.

RMGadelha

Quote from: nattmorker on December 04, 2015, 01:47:06 PM
I don't think they will reveal any more songs, unless it is an instrumental. If they reveal something with lyrics, it might be spoiling the plot.

Nah, I don't think so. They've revealed a song about the Rebels' point of view. If they reveal one now about the Empire, I don't think anything would be spoiled.

shredd

Really loving The Gift Of Music! When I listen to it i get vibes like  DT12, I&W, SFAM, SC and ADTOE.

And on top of everything, another super tasty JP solo!

nattmorker

Quote from: RMGadelha on December 04, 2015, 05:37:11 PM
Quote from: nattmorker on December 04, 2015, 01:47:06 PM
I don't think they will reveal any more songs, unless it is an instrumental. If they reveal something with lyrics, it might be spoiling the plot.

Nah, I don't think so. They've revealed a song about the Rebels' point of view. If they reveal one now about the Empire, I don't think anything would be spoiled.

You're right, tf there would be an introductory song about the Empire I guess it would not spoil anything and it could potentially be released.

Nomaniac

Quote from: shredd on December 04, 2015, 07:05:37 PM
Really loving The Gift Of Music! When I listen to it i get vibes like  DT12, I&W, SFAM, SC and ADTOE.

And on top of everything, another super tasty JP solo!

Yeah ikr! It's kind of like old and new DT combined ;)

Nomaniac

Quote from: nattmorker on December 04, 2015, 07:18:46 PM
Quote from: RMGadelha on December 04, 2015, 05:37:11 PM
Quote from: nattmorker on December 04, 2015, 01:47:06 PM
I don't think they will reveal any more songs, unless it is an instrumental. If they reveal something with lyrics, it might be spoiling the plot.

Nah, I don't think so. They've revealed a song about the Rebels' point of view. If they reveal one now about the Empire, I don't think anything would be spoiled.

You're right, tf there would be an introductory song about the Empire I guess it would not spoil anything and it could potentially be released.

I wonder what song that would be if there is one. Lord Narfaryus perhaps??? :justjen

SupermanJLU

I rarely post but tis is the season to be excited :) I have been following this thread and the old ones for many months now eagerly awaiting this new album. I always get super happy when I know Dream Theater has entered the studio. Every new album release I have been a part of as a fan since Metropolis Pt2: Scenes from a Memory has been different but I have never been disappointed in any of their creative visions. So far everything released about the The Astonishing has hooked me into wanting to know more about this grand story that John Petrucci has penned to paper. Now with the recent release of the song The Gift of Music I am pretty confident this album will not be a disappointment either.

Cannot wait for Jan 29th pre-ordered THE ASTONISHING LIMITED EDITION DELUXE BOX SET super pumped to see what the Special Gift is going to be :D

Bertielee

I don't know if anyone pointed that out (too lazy to go back), but the boxset photo with the double CD pretty much excludes a DVD of the making of docu, right (as there seems to be only 2 discs inside)?

B.Lee

Nihil-Morari

Quote from: Bertielee on December 05, 2015, 12:23:05 AM
I don't know if anyone pointed that out (too lazy to go back), but the boxset photo with the double CD pretty much excludes a DVD of the making of docu, right (as there seems to be only 2 discs inside)?

B.Lee

Yeah, I believe Kotow pointed that out. It's a shame, would've been really cool to see this record get developed. But since they wouldn't  have a single shot of James recording his vocals, it would've been a difficult thing to direct.

Bertielee

Quote from: Nihil-Morari on December 05, 2015, 12:36:49 AM
Quote from: Bertielee on December 05, 2015, 12:23:05 AM
I don't know if anyone pointed that out (too lazy to go back), but the boxset photo with the double CD pretty much excludes a DVD of the making of docu, right (as there seems to be only 2 discs inside)?

B.Lee

Yeah, I believe Kotow pointed that out. It's a shame, would've been really cool to see this record get developed. But since they wouldn't  have a single shot of James recording his vocals, it would've been a difficult thing to direct.

Yeah, and that's a shame. Guess we'll have to satisfy ourselves with 2 hours + of music, then! :biggrin:

B.Lee

ariich

Quote from: Kotowboy on December 04, 2015, 05:25:00 PM
The final minute of On The Backs Of Angels has always sounded like a clusterfuck to me.
Strange, that's my favourite bit of the song.

Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on May 10, 2023, 05:59:19 PMAriich is a freak, or somehow has more hours in the day than everyone else.
Quote from: TAC on December 21, 2023, 06:05:15 AMI be am boner inducing.

DoctorAction

Quote from: DoctorAction on November 28, 2015, 03:26:51 PM
I'm pleased they're marketing this album differently. Infers a bit of change, which is definitely welcome to me. Apart from that, I have to say all the detail so far is pretty unappealing. Echoes of 2112 - how fresh... Does offer glints of Rush influence, mind, and I really dig em in that mode. Who knows!?

After listening to TGOM a couple of times, all I'm thinking is "Wow! Fucking excellent!"  :D

RoeDent

On the subject of a second track, it would be good to hear something from Act 2. I would say "The Path That Divides", but I have a feeling that will be the longest track. Idk, I've been thinking about it, and as that phrase has been emphasized from the beginning of this promo cycle, it would make sense that that song is a pivotal point in the story.