Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with moment of betrayal!)

[Nihil-Morari]

I know for a fact that the Amsterdam Carré does not, this is what it looks like from the artists POV:

It does have an orchestra pit, it's a theater. But I double checked it on their website.

[Train of Naught]

Oh yea you're right.

[Nefarius]

I'm pretty sure I just found the highly official astonishing promo pic!



Greetings...
Nef (not related to the Emperor)

[Bertielee]

Good job, Nef!

[Nefarius]

Serious scientific research about the design and construction lineage of the NOMACs yielded unexpected findings:



Greetings...
Nef (still not related to the Emperor)

[SwedishGoose]

I know for a fact that the Amsterdam Carré does not, this is what it looks like from the artists POV:

Neither does Cirkus in Stockholm as far as I know.

Circus in Stockholm does have a pit... all of the autumn 2016 "The Phantom of the Opera" will be played there. That one demands a pit.

[TH1RT3EN]

Thinking they'll announce the 3rd character today or tomorrow, maybe along with more tracks.

Considering that the real image has already leaked, announcing that character next makes sense. I just don't think they'll do it today though, no updates have been made during the weekends (at least not yet).

[RaasMah]

Hey all! long time lurker here, finally signing to the forum

Just wanted to say Im really exited for the album. A bit scary of it being too weird, but DT never failed me before.

I have a small question, Since it is kind of a dream and a life goal for me to see them live, Ive decided I have to see them this tour. That means traveling to EU specifically for this. Now, since Im kinda broke I have to plan this cheaply. Germany seems the perfect location, but currently there are no tour dates for it. Does any of you, who have experience with DT tours, know anything about whether they will arrive to Germany? I have to know because tickets are selling out and I need to book a show.  Any help or advice would be really much appreciated.

So thats it, Im eager to hear this album and start participate in your one of a kind endless forum debates and rankings

So, welcome to DTF at first.
Now I have to tell you, anything related to the tour can be seen on this thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=44873.0
There were concerts in Germany announced a few days ago. Funny enough they just disappeared from the band`s website recently what really confuses me since I was, like you, planning to buy tickets for a concert in Germany. So basically, we can just hope and wait for an (re-)announcement.

Thanks!

I just wish there was someone we could ask, is there no one here somehow connected the band, who can tell us if they will eventually arrive to Germany?

[Train of Naught]

Thinking they'll announce the 3rd character today or tomorrow, maybe along with more tracks.

Considering that the real image has already leaked, announcing that character next makes sense. I just don't think they'll do it today though, no updates have been made during the weekends (at least not yet).

Oh I didn't know that the other revealed character was the 3rd, but I just thought it because "#char3_LB" was behind the astonishing web page adress 1 or 2 days ago, seemed suspicious.

[YtseJamittaja]

Thinking they'll announce the 3rd character today or tomorrow, maybe along with more tracks.

Considering that the real image has already leaked, announcing that character next makes sense. I just don't think they'll do it today though, no updates have been made during the weekends (at least not yet).

Oh I didn't know that the other revealed character was the 3rd, but I just thought it because "#char3_LB" was behind the astonishing web page adress 1 or 2 days ago, seemed suspicious.

If you click 3rd character, the page is /char3_LB but if you click for example 5th character the page is /char5_LB so the web page change if you click characters... Don't know if you meant that..

[Calvin6s]

I'm sure somebody has already said this, but after reading the emails of the two factions, it really reminded me of Professor Chaos. 

I am Professor Chaos! Bringer of destruction and maker of doom! Those who do not know me yet shall know me very soon, for the hour of Chaos is at hand!

[Calvin6s]

Using the Empire email:
Present is 2285 AD, which is 257 years After C. (AC)
Making 0 AC, 2028 AD.

So what happened in 2028 that uses the letter C?
2028 corresponds with a Presidential year election.  So maybe a President was elected that then abolished the Senate and declared an Empire.  Is the AC referenced in nomACs?  After Choice?  After Corruption?  After Collective?

We at least have some dates that should be a fact of the story line.

[RoadTrain_of Thought]

You know. 2028 is 100 years after 1928, but probably doesn't have anything to do with SFaM.

[Kotowboy]

You know. 2028 is 100 years after 1928, but probably doesn't have anything to do with SFaM.

I really hope not. I'd be slightly disappointed if it was. However - a slight nod to past albums would be alright.

[dparrott]

Serious scientific research about the design and construction lineage of the NOMACs yielded unexpected findings:

That seems very Hugh-ish!

Listening to Outcry last night, thinking how it would make a good song for Ravenskill.

[Ben_Jamin]

So there are three NOMAC symbols on three songs, each one most likely a different NOMAC. I wonder how many there'll be?

[ToT-147]

Prediction of a TA's song title: Empire of the Black Clouds..

[Train of Naught]

Kotowboy probably knew all along with his artwork that there are indeed 3 NOMACS.

[Kotowboy]

[dparrott]

The Moderators of this board should now be called The Great Northern Empire

[Darkstarshades]

Why need of an orchestra when you have Korg Kronos?
Why need of Eren when you have '15 upgraded Jordan?

[ToT-147]

The Moderators of this board should now be called The Great Northern Empire

Well...

I favor the Empire, but actually joined both.

Joined both, but before I knew I could do that, I joined the rebels first.

Same. Been feeling rebellious recently.

Both!

[RMGadelha]

Lol. Empire for Life here, you rebel scum! 

[wizard of Thought]

Hey all! long time lurker here, finally signing to the forum

Just wanted to say Im really exited for the album. A bit scary of it being too weird, but DT never failed me before.

I have a small question, Since it is kind of a dream and a life goal for me to see them live, Ive decided I have to see them this tour. That means traveling to EU specifically for this. Now, since Im kinda broke I have to plan this cheaply. Germany seems the perfect location, but currently there are no tour dates for it. Does any of you, who have experience with DT tours, know anything about whether they will arrive to Germany? I have to know because tickets are selling out and I need to book a show.  Any help or advice would be really much appreciated.

So thats it, Im eager to hear this album and start participate in your one of a kind endless forum debates and rankings

So, welcome to DTF at first.
Now I have to tell you, anything related to the tour can be seen on this thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=44873.0
There were concerts in Germany announced a few days ago. Funny enough they just disappeared from the band`s website recently what really confuses me since I was, like you, planning to buy tickets for a concert in Germany. So basically, we can just hope and wait for an (re-)announcement.

Thanks!

I just wish there was someone we could ask, is there no one here somehow connected the band, who can tell us if they will eventually arrive to Germany?

Oh, I also would like to ask somebody, but apperently no one really knows what`s up with that.

In addition, just for the protocol: The hall in Frankfurt definitely has an orchestra pit, because it`s an opera house.

[ariich]

Using the Empire email:
Present is 2285 AD, which is 257 years After C. (AC)
Making 0 AC, 2028 AD.

So what happened in 2028 that uses the letter C?
2028 corresponds with a Presidential year election.  So maybe a President was elected that then abolished the Senate and declared an Empire.  Is the AC referenced in nomACs?  After Choice?  After Corruption?  After Collective?

We at least have some dates that should be a fact of the story line.

You know. 2028 is 100 years after 1928, but probably doesn't have anything to do with SFaM.

I really hope not. I'd be slightly disappointed if it was. However - a slight nod to past albums would be alright.

Just to note that, as this is all speculation, I snipped it from the What We Know thread and merged it in here.

[Calvin6s]

The dates aren't speculation though.  They are taken from the Empire email.

[ariich]

The dates aren't speculation though.  They are taken from the Empire email.

Yes and the emails are referenced/linked in that thread, but the meaning of the dates is speculation. That's for this thread here.

[Kotowboy]

Yes. The dates are fact.

That it is related to SFAM is not.

[Calvin6s]

But are NOMACS related to NO MA'AM?

[Kotowboy]

No.

[dvargas]

I wonder how many of the characters are women.

Any idea?

[CDrice]

I wonder how many of the characters are women.

Any idea?

Considering that there's a song called Act of Faythe (which to me sounds like the name of a female character), I'll take a huge risk and say that there will be more than zero.

[CodyWanKenobi]

Is it me or has more been added to the map?

[Enigmachine]

Is it me or has more been added to the map?

There has not.

[Kotowboy]

Is it me or has more been added to the map?

There has not.

It is him.