Dream Theater is allegedly on tour right now v. Setlist spoilers, you dummy

[wasteland]

I hate interrupting this poignant Steven Wilson discussion, but the first bootleg of the tour has emerged! It's a good quality recording of the second show of the tour in Katowice, held on June 27th. I uploaded it on my onedrive folder for those who don't have an account on dimeadozen.org!

Here's the link, grab freely if you are interested!

https://1drv.ms/1dSkm91

[me7]

Thanks for sharing the untouched flac files. Very considerate of you.

[wasteland]

Thanks for sharing the untouched flac files. Very considerate of you.

Well, as a bootleg trader and collector I would never trade/share a recording in a degraded form. The taper recorded this show in lossless format, as per the bootlegging etiquette, and as such it is to be circulated!

[jonnybaxy]

I can't even attempt to explain the show in Bonn.... Utterly amazed.

Behind the veil is not a good song to close on though.

[wizard of Thought]

I can't even attempt to explain the show in Bonn.... Utterly amazed.

Behind the veil is not a good song to close on though.

This. Even if JLB was a bit weak that show, as he announced after Metropolis.

[Ravenfoul]

Thanks Wasteland, sounds great.

[jonnybaxy]

So after the Germany show, I met haken and chatted to them for the best part of 2 hours, I posted some pics in the haken thread for you fans of them to check out! 

[Kotowboy]

Can someone explain the problem with "setlist spoilers"?  I don't get it...

What's the worst that can happen ?

Dude! I just got back from the DT show and they played You Not Me ! 

Oh thank YOU for telling me - now I know they play Dream Theater songs !

[BlobVanDam]

Can someone explain the problem with "setlist spoilers"?  I don't get it...

What's the worst that can happen ?

Dude! I just got back from the DT show and they played You Not Me ! 

Oh thank YOU for telling me - now I know they play Dream Theater songs !

Some people like the surprise of not knowing what song is being played next. The anticipation and surprise can add to the fun.
Generally I personally prefer to have an idea of what songs will be played, because it might affect whether or not I attend in some cases.

[Kotowboy]

But - unless you know for definite that they're playing the same songs every night as they did recently - you might not even get that song....

[BlobVanDam]

I meant in a general sense. If a matter of one or two songs is make or break, then it's probably not worth it. For a lot of bands, there's no worry anyway.

[Kotowboy]

Plus I think once you're in the venue and the lights go down and the band starts - you will probably forget everything anyway and just enjoy it.

Unless you're so OCD that you just stand there like " I can't enjoy this gig knowing what songs they're going to play " 

[BlobVanDam]

Of course, but I get that some people want that extra little bit of surprise too. It's a minor thing, but I respect that some people don't want the setlist spoiled in advance.

[King Postwhore]

Kotow, Blob is one of those guys.

[Kotowboy]

Kotow, Blob is one of those "guys".

Yes! I am also a "guy".

[King Postwhore]

I thought that was understood.

[Rodni Demental]

I could care less about 'spoilers', even in TV programs and movies (most of the time lol). If knowing something in advance is enough to make the experience of watching something or being there not worth it for some people then that's completely fair enough, but whether I think I know something or not, if it's a show I want to see, I'll go to it / watch it anyway. 

Anyway, thank you wasteland! I'm very grateful of all the boots you've made available, you've saved me having to look through all the rather questionable audio quality vids on youtube. 

[rumborak]

Thanks for sharing the untouched flac files. Very considerate of you.

Well, as a bootleg trader and collector I would never trade/share a recording in a degraded form. The taper recorded this show in lossless format, as per the bootlegging etiquette, and as such it is to be circulated!

I always found that stance to be somewhat silly when it comes to bootlegs. The source material's degradation is magnitudes larger than any compression degradation.

[Rodni Demental]

^^^ While I see your point, I think the stance is more about trying get the best quality with the means available. It's either that or not bother with bootlegs at all which is probably what most audiophiles would do.

In any case, I just put this show on my phone so I can listen at work with headphones and after some slight adjustments to the EQ I think it sounds really good.. For a bootleg... Haha.

[bosk1]

Can someone explain the problem with "setlist spoilers"?  I don't get it...

What's the worst that can happen ?

Dude! I just got back from the DT show and they played You Not Me ! 

Oh thank YOU for telling me - now I know they play Dream Theater songs !

Some people like the surprise of not knowing what song is being played next. The anticipation and surprise can add to the fun.
Generally I personally prefer to have an idea of what songs will be played, because it might affect whether or not I attend in some cases.

That is all fine.  But those people should have the common sense to stay out of threads on a discussion forum about the tour.  Once a tour has started, people WILL be discussing the songs.  There should be no need for a "spoiler tag."  Same with movie threads.  If you don't want to see spoilers about the film, stay out of threads about it once release date draws near.

[BlobVanDam]

That is all fine.  But those people should have the common sense to stay out of threads on a discussion forum about the tour.  Once a tour has started, people WILL be discussing the songs.  There should be no need for a "spoiler tag."  Same with movie threads.  If you don't want to see spoilers about the film, stay out of threads about it once release date draws near.

Oh absolutely. It should be assumed that a thread about the tour is going to have setlist spoilers (even before it was specifically stated). Same goes for movie threads.
But we were also discussing setlist spoilers in the new DT album thread before DT had even played a show, where people may not have expected to see it, so common sense may not have helped there. I'm not sure how many people care that much, but sometimes info slips out in unexpected places.

[metrojam]

^^^ While I see your point, I think the stance is more about trying get the best quality with the means available. It's either that or not bother with bootlegs at all which is probably what most audiophiles would do.

In any case, I just put this show on my phone so I can listen at work with headphones and after some slight adjustments to the EQ I think it sounds really good.. For a bootleg... Haha.

Sounds like you've got a really good job then if you can listen to music whilst you're working!!

[Darkstarshades]

While it's true that one wants to have the excitement of now knowing what are they going to play next, it's also a good to have a slight idea of What they are going to play.

Some people are just not masters in DT catalog and there are some songs they simply don't know (specially FII and WDADU), so, if a person who isn't very familiarized with Awake, but loves DT12 and SFAM, will be very excited for these parts during the last tour's show, but will be very confused or awkward with the Awake half.
Just a random thought.

[Sycsa]

I hate interrupting this poignant Steven Wilson discussion, but the first bootleg of the tour has emerged! It's a good quality recording of the second show of the tour in Katowice, held on June 27th. I uploaded it on my onedrive folder for those who don't have an account on dimeadozen.org!

Here's the link, grab freely if you are interested!

https://1drv.ms/1dSkm91

Holy crap, you can actually hear JP singing live in CM. That's a first since MM joined. Some songs also feel a bit faster, are they not playing to a click anymore?

[hefdaddy42]

I hate interrupting this poignant Steven Wilson discussion, but the first bootleg of the tour has emerged! It's a good quality recording of the second show of the tour in Katowice, held on June 27th. I uploaded it on my onedrive folder for those who don't have an account on dimeadozen.org!

Here's the link, grab freely if you are interested!

https://1drv.ms/1dSkm91

Thanks, buddy!  Just got back from vacation, downloading now!

[wasteland]

We had a slight unschedule addition at yesterday's show! Jordan played a short piano solo between TSCO and About To Crash, featuring the Italian National Anthem (which the crowd proceeded to sing along to once we realised what was going on )

Also, James has fully recovered from his illness. He sounds perfectly alright and some now!

[BlobVanDam]

An Italian crowd sing along with something? Get outta town!

[wasteland]

An Italian crowd sing along with something? Get outta town!

We sang along the instrumental section of ACOS2

[nikatapi]

I have a feeling that MM is using triggers on the bass drums, and this is evident on pretty much every live video from this tour. I'm not sure i like it.

[bosk1]

I have a feeling that MM is using triggers on the bass drums, and this is evident on pretty much every live video from this tour. I'm not sure i like it.

I haven't seen any of the footage, but I am curious to know what he is triggering that you have a problem with.

[wasteland]

I like these summer tours. Yes, the setlist is usually shorter, but the venues are usually much more fascinating.

This is yesterday's in Pistoia


And this is where they'll play tonight in Marseille!

[As I Am]

This is in Pistoia

THAT is AWESOME looking!!!!!!!!

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

I love European outdoor concerts. They're so beautiful.

[MajorBoobage]

I hate interrupting this poignant Steven Wilson discussion, but the first bootleg of the tour has emerged! It's a good quality recording of the second show of the tour in Katowice, held on June 27th. I uploaded it on my onedrive folder for those who don't have an account on dimeadozen.org!

Here's the link, grab freely if you are interested!

https://1drv.ms/1dSkm91

Thanks man, good stuff!

[Darkstarshades]

My question...
Did they tell Systematic Chaos and ADTOE to go fuck themselves and played The Count of Tuscany at Tuscany?