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Started by Podaar, May 22, 2015, 05:27:51 AM

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Podaar

Jordan Rudess does NOT overplay! He plays precisely what he intends when he intends it. No more, no less. It is his style.

We, collectively, under-listen!

That's my proposal.

BlobVanDam


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hefdaddy42

I don't think he overplays; by and large, he stops playing at the end of the song.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Mladen


Zydar

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on May 22, 2015, 07:49:38 AM
I don't think he overplays; by and large, he stops playing at the end of the song.

:lol

Well there you go.

cramx3

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on May 22, 2015, 07:49:38 AM
I don't think he overplays; by and large, he stops playing at the end of the song.

Not at the end of Illumination Theory

Nick

Quote from: Podaar on May 22, 2015, 05:27:51 AM
Jordan Rudess does NOT overplay! He plays precisely what he intends when he intends it. No more, no less. It is his style.

We, collectively, under-listen!

That's my proposal.

Your post makes absolutely no sense. You've essentially said he plays what he wants, and thus it's not overplaying. But the criticism of overplaying is an observation of his work, not an observation of how he sees his work. You can't watch a horrible cover on youtube and say, it's actually good, cause they played it exactly how they intended to!

Not saying he does or doesn't overplay, but your reasoning just finds no basis in logic to me.

King Postwhore

That fact that I can see his face and not a mountain of keyboards show me he's not using both hands and playing what fills. 

Now if he wore a cape, that would change everything.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

JediKnight1969

Quote from: kingshmegland on May 22, 2015, 10:02:31 AM
Now if he wore a cape, that would change everything.

I see what you did in there...

JediKnight1969

Quote from: Nick on May 22, 2015, 09:18:19 AM
Quote from: Podaar on May 22, 2015, 05:27:51 AM
Jordan Rudess does NOT overplay! He plays precisely what he intends when he intends it. No more, no less. It is his style.

We, collectively, under-listen!

That's my proposal.

Your post makes absolutely no sense. You've essentially said he plays what he wants, and thus it's not overplaying. But the criticism of overplaying is an observation of his work, not an observation of how he sees his work. You can't watch a horrible cover on youtube and say, it's actually good, cause they played it exactly how they intended to!

Not saying he does or doesn't overplay, but your reasoning just finds no basis in logic to me.

THIS.

Podaar

I don't know what's funnier, that I'm so inept at joking or that I can't figure out if Nick and JediKnight1969 are pulling my weenie?  :lol

Quote from: Nick on May 22, 2015, 09:18:19 AM
Not saying he does or doesn't overplay, but your reasoning just finds no basis in logic to me.

That's because I wasn't using logic!

King Postwhore

"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Aythesryche


Stadler

Quote from: Nick on May 22, 2015, 09:18:19 AM
You can't watch a horrible cover on youtube and say, it's actually good, cause they played it exactly how they intended to!

You had me until this. 

I think that is the ONLY way you can say it is actually "good".  Everything else is just "what I like" or "what I don't like".    To me, the only "good" and "bad" in artistic expression is "how close did the artist come to his/her ultimate vision"? 

chaossystem

Quote from: kingshmegland on May 22, 2015, 10:02:31 AM
That fact that I can see his face and not a mountain of keyboards show me he's not using both hands and playing what fills. 

Now if he wore a cape, that would change everything.

I take it you're not a fan of Rick Wakeman.

As for the overall theme of this thread: you could KIND OF make the same argument about Mike Portnoy.


Podaar

Hef...or any mod, really. Please, please lock this thread!

Or, better yet, just delete it?

:justjen

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.