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Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence vs Black Clouds & Silver Linings

Started by TheCountOfNYC, March 14, 2015, 01:20:03 PM

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Outcrier

I think the same about TCoT (the intro being the best thing about it) but still would prefer SDOIT anyway.

Dublagent66


Crow

well now I'm curious, every song vs. every song go
TGP, Misunderstood, and Disappear are all 6 points each for 6DOIT, not bothering there

Blind Faith vs. BC&SL
ANTR, TBOT, TCOT all win (3-3)

The Great Debate vs. BC&SL
TBOT, TCOT win (4-2)

6DOIT vs. BC&SL
ANTR, TSF, TBOT, TCOT win (2-4)

final score is 27-9

so yeah it's still a pretty landslide victory for 6DOIT that way  :lol
turns out signatures are fundamentally broken now so here's my passive-aggressive signature about signatures instead

bosk1

I'll just do it this way:

Six Degrees
The Glass Prison
A Nightmare To Remember
Misunderstood
Disappear
The Great Debate
The Shattered Fortress
The Count of Tuscany
...
Blind Faith
A Right of Passage
...
Wither
The Best of Times

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

bosk1


Madman Shepherd

Quote from: bosk1 on March 18, 2015, 02:25:27 PM
I'll just do it this way:

Six Degrees
The Glass Prison
A Nightmare To Remember
Misunderstood
Disappear
The Great Debate
The Shattered Fortress
The Count of Tuscany
...
Blind Faith
A Right of Passage
...
Wither
The Best of Times

Blind Faith
Misunderstood
The Great Debate

A Rite of Passage

The Glass Prison
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence


Disappear
Shattered Fortress

The Count of Tuscany
A Nightmare to Remember
The Best of Times



Wither


_______

I hesitate to put TSF where it is at because it has grown on me since I got to hear it on Breaking the Fourth Wall so it might go up a spot but otherwise that list is pretty set in stone. 

Zyzzyva17

When I compare Awake to FII track by track, Awake wins 6 to 5.

But if I compare Awake's tracks to FII's tracks in reverse order, FII wins 7 to 4.

Zook

Quote from: bosk1 on March 18, 2015, 05:34:29 PM
Even wrong opinions are welcome here.

Is your beef with Blind Faith only the lyrics, or do you have a problem with the music too?

I think if I can get past the lyrics to Theocracy's Mirror of Souls album, and even sing along to them, you can like Blind Faith.


Now like it!




LIKE IT!


God damn it, LIKE IT! *whips with belt*

Crow

Quote from: Zyzzyva17 on March 18, 2015, 05:52:49 PM
When I compare Awake to FII track by track, Awake wins 6 to 5.

But if I compare Awake's tracks to FII's tracks in reverse order, FII wins 7 to 4.
let me try
6:00 vs. FII
Hell's Kitchen, LitS win (9-2)

Caught In A Web vs. FII
Peruvian Skies, Hell's Kitchen, LitS, ToT win (7-4)

Innocence Faded vs. FII
Peruvian Skies, Hell's Kitchen, LitS, ToT win (7-4)

Erotomania vs. FII
Peruvian Skies, Hell's Kitchen, LitS, ToT win (7-4)

Voices vs. FII
Voices sweeps (11-0)

The Silent Man vs. FII
New Millennium, Peruvian Skies, Hell's Kitchen, LitS, ToT win (6-5)

The Mirror vs. FII
The Mirror sweeps (11-0)

Lie vs. FII
New Millennium, Peruvian Skies, Hell's Kitchen, LitS, ToT win (6-5)

Lifting Shadows vs. FII
Peruvian Skies, Hell's Kitchen, LitS, ToT win (7-4)

Scarred vs. FII
Scarred sweeps (11-0)

Space-Dye Vest vs. FII
Hell's Kitchen, LitS win (9-2)

Awake wins 91-30

nah I don't see it
turns out signatures are fundamentally broken now so here's my passive-aggressive signature about signatures instead

Zyzzyva17

New Millennium vs. Awake
Wins everything (11-0)

You Not Me vs. Awake
Loses everything except LSOAD (1-10)

Peruvian Skies vs. Awake
Wins everything (11-0)

Hollow Years vs. Awake
Wins Innocence Faded, Voices, The Silent Man, Lie, LSOAD (5-6)

Burning My Soul vs. Awake
Loses everything (0-11)

Hell's Kitchen vs. Awake
Wins everything except 6:00 and Space-Dye Vest (9-2)

Lines in the Sand vs. Awake
Wins everything (11-0)

Take Away My Pain vs. Awake
Loses everything except The Silent Man and LSOAD (2-9)

Just Let Me Breathe vs. Awake
Wins everything* (11-0)

Anna Lee vs. Awake
Wins everything except 6:00 and Space-Dye Vest (9-2)

Trial of Tears vs. Awake
Loses to 6:00, The Mirror, Scarred, Space-Dye Vest (7-4)

FII wins 77-34



*Yes, I'm weird. I know.

CharlesPL

6:00 vs. FII
Hell's Kitchen, ToT win (9-2)

Caught In A Web vs. FII
Peruvian Skies, Hell's Kitchen, ToT win (8-3)

Innocence Faded vs. FII
Peruvian Skies, Hell's Kitchen,  ToT win (8-3)

Erotomania vs. FII
Peruvian Skies, Hell's Kitchen, ToT win (8-3)

Voices vs. FII
Hell's Kitchen, ToT win (9-2)

The Silent Man vs. FII
Peruvian Skies, Hell's Kitchen, LitS,TAMP, ToT win (6-5)

The Mirror vs. FII
Hell's Kitchen, ToT win (9-2)

Lie vs. FII
Hell's Kitchen, ToT win (9-2)

Lifting Shadows vs. FII
Peruvian Skies, Hell's Kitchen, ToT win (8-3)

Scarred vs. FII
Hell's Kitchen, ToT win (9-2)

Space-Dye Vest vs. FII
Peruvian Skies, Hell's Kitchen, ToT win (8-3)

Awake wins 93-30

BlackInk

The Glass Prison
Blind Faith
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Disappear
The Great Debate

The Count of Tuscany
Misunderstood
The Shattered Fortress
A Nightmare to Remember
Wither
The Best of Times
A Rite of Passage

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Zook


Randaran

Quote from: Zook on March 19, 2015, 10:29:33 AM
Mods, delete if you must, but I'd like an opinion on my work, please. :)

*snip*

That works surprisingly well.

Blind Faith
The Glass Prison
The Great Debate

The Count of Tuscany
Disappear
The Shattered Fortress
Wither
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
The Best of Times
Misunderstood






A Nightmare to Remember
A Rite of Passage

Zook

Quote from: Randaran on March 19, 2015, 11:54:51 AM
Quote from: Zook on March 19, 2015, 10:29:33 AM
Mods, delete if you must, but I'd like an opinion on my work, please. :)

*snip*

That works surprisingly well.


Thanks. I quite enjoy this song, but the silly moments bring it down so much.

CaelPetrucci

Personally, I would take BC&SL over 6DoIT, but that's in term of the album as a whole.

I would take Glass Prison as a better song in the Twelve Step suite
I think A Nightmare to Remember is a better album opener than Glass Prison (not by much though)
Misunderstood is a better soft song than Wither (though I do like Wither, play it acoustically live sometimes, alongside Beneath the Surface, Regression/Spirit Carries On and hopefully Hollow Years, Wait for Sleep and Silent Man before too long)
Great Debate over Best of Times (though the latter does tug at the heartstrings)
6DoIT as a better epic than Count of Tuscany, though I'd take the Intro of Tuscany over Overture.

Also, is it just me or the riff in Misunderstood at 4:07 or so sounds a lot like an early version of the main riff of a Rite of Passage? It's got the same sort of pattern, and I'm pretty sure they're the same notes!


Outcrier

Quote from: CaelPetrucci on March 20, 2015, 07:04:23 AM
Also, is it just me or the riff in Misunderstood at 4:07 or so sounds a lot like an early version of the main riff of a Rite of Passage? It's got the same sort of pattern, and I'm pretty sure they're the same notes!

Yep, i noticed it too back in the day.

gmillerdrake

Quote from: CaelPetrucci on March 20, 2015, 07:04:23 AM
I think A Nightmare to Remember is a better album opener than Glass Prison (not by much though)

We have completely different opinions on that  :lol   TGP (IMO) blows ANTR out of the water. For one thing, ANTR is about 7 minutes too long. There is a point in that song after Jordan's solo where it's painfully obvious they are just stretching that song out for whatever reason. Had that song been cut by six or seven minutes it'd be that much better. TGP is one of if not the best 'heavy' DT song out there. ANTR (IMO) has one cool part.....the 'hoplessly drifting' section.

TheCountOfNYC

Quote from: Zook on March 19, 2015, 10:29:33 AM
Mods, delete if you must, but I'd like an opinion on my work, please. :)

https://soundcloud.com/krotchraut/nightmare-to-remember-edit-sample

I like it except for the fact that the soft part during the 12/8 (I believe that's the time signature there) is one of my favorite parts. But it does work very well despite the fact that I do actually like the whole song.
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 12, 2024, 10:37:36 AMIn Stadler's defense, he's a weird motherfucker