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rumborak

Where are you now?
Blind and deaf
No one's left to come around
Where are you now?
Lost out there
Where eyes no longer stare

KevShmev

Quote from: mike099 on August 07, 2015, 10:19:02 AM
Quote from: AboutToCrash on August 07, 2015, 01:39:25 AM
I'm hoping they do an album similar to SDOIT in format. A few epics and a concept disc, That would be fantastic, and given the prolonged studio time it could be possible this time around. It's anyones guess though what DT13 will sound like. In reality we will probably have ADTOE mixed with DT12.

I think I  remember one of the DT forum members spoke with JR tried to get info.  JR said the cd would be different.  The member asked about a concept cd and JR said we already did that, so it would not be different.  The question comes to mind, what would be different?

Concept album - done, progressive - done  progressive metal - done

I think it's important to remember that what some artists think is different, quite often is not.  Neal Morse has said that he tries to make every album not sound like others, and he is one of the most samey-sounding artists ever (although I still love his music to pieces), so I wouldn't put a lot of stock into them saying it is going to be "different."

JayOctavarium


erwinrafael

Quote from: mike099 on August 07, 2015, 10:19:02 AM
Quote from: AboutToCrash on August 07, 2015, 01:39:25 AM
I'm hoping they do an album similar to SDOIT in format. A few epics and a concept disc, That would be fantastic, and given the prolonged studio time it could be possible this time around. It's anyones guess though what DT13 will sound like. In reality we will probably have ADTOE mixed with DT12.

I think I  remember one of the DT forum members spoke with JR tried to get info.  JR said the cd would be different.  The member asked about a concept cd and JR said we already did that, so it would not be different.  The question comes to mind, what would be different?

Concept album - done, progressive - done  progressive metal - done



Maybe a more contemporary sounding album, with less prog, aimed at "younger" fans. Mike said this once when he was snowed in Boston:

QuoteI'm also working on electronic kit sounding simple, 4/4 grooves using some over the bar ride patterns just to give it some habanero spice. It is stuff that kids can feel, so it sort of pleases all.

"electronic kit sounding", "4/4", "stuff that kids can feel"

Flacracker

Quote from: erwinrafael on August 07, 2015, 11:03:54 PM
Quote from: mike099 on August 07, 2015, 10:19:02 AM
Quote from: AboutToCrash on August 07, 2015, 01:39:25 AM
I'm hoping they do an album similar to SDOIT in format. A few epics and a concept disc, That would be fantastic, and given the prolonged studio time it could be possible this time around. It's anyones guess though what DT13 will sound like. In reality we will probably have ADTOE mixed with DT12.

I think I  remember one of the DT forum members spoke with JR tried to get info.  JR said the cd would be different.  The member asked about a concept cd and JR said we already did that, so it would not be different.  The question comes to mind, what would be different?

Concept album - done, progressive - done  progressive metal - done



Maybe a more contemporary sounding album, with less prog, aimed at "younger" fans. Mike said this once when he was snowed in Boston:

QuoteI'm also working on electronic kit sounding simple, 4/4 grooves using some over the bar ride patterns just to give it some habanero spice. It is stuff that kids can feel, so it sort of pleases all.

"electronic kit sounding", "4/4", "stuff that kids can feel"

Can't wait for the Skrillex and A$AP Ferg features.

Dani Helios

Quote from: Darkstarshades on August 07, 2015, 04:59:52 PM
I herd the Roadrunner guy appeared in the studio thread for DT12, I wonder where he is right now...
People are torturing him to extract information about DT13?

genome

To make the wait more bearable, I've made a compilation of every DT album in one YouTube video for your listening pleasure.

Unfortunately there was an accident during the export and they all got laid on top of each other instead of sequentially, but it's still good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN7TITDPuMo

Enjoy.

Zydar


BlobVanDam

Quote from: Zydar on August 08, 2015, 03:28:27 AM
I see my shooped pic is in there too :lol

That masterpiece is your handiwork? It's glorious. :lol
And so is that mish-mash of noise. And all of these years I've been wasting time listening to them individually. Pffffft.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: genome on August 08, 2015, 03:23:03 AM
To make the wait more bearable, I've made a compilation of every DT album in one YouTube video for your listening pleasure.

Unfortunately there was an accident during the export and they all got laid on top of each other instead of sequentially, but it's still good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN7TITDPuMo

Enjoy.
That is...incredible.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

genome


JiM-Xtreme

the most shocking thing about that video is the revelation that FII is apparently the longest album  :P

genome

My favourite part is the last two minutes of the whole video, where JLB is trying to sing Beneath the Surface over the end of TOT.


Train of Naught

New Millenium and ITPOE pt. 1 are possibly the two most annoying intro's combined.

cramx3

Quote from: Train of Naught on August 08, 2015, 04:40:38 AM
New Millenium and ITPOE pt. 1 are possibly the two most annoying intro's combined.

NM I will give you... but ITPOE pt1?!  That was cut from the second half because it was too good not to be an album intro. 

SuperTaco

I like how the Razor's Edge solo mixes with everything else, even if it's still chaos.

gm5k

Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 08, 2015, 03:31:09 AM
Quote from: Zydar on August 08, 2015, 03:28:27 AM
I see my shooped pic is in there too :lol

That masterpiece is your handiwork? It's glorious. :lol
And so is that mish-mash of noise. And all of these years I've been wasting time listening to them individually. Pffffft.

That TOT and BTS mashup at 1:14:32  :lol


Darkstarshades

Quote from: genome on August 08, 2015, 03:23:03 AM
To make the wait more bearable, I've made a compilation of every DT album in one YouTube video for your listening pleasure.

Unfortunately there was an accident during the export and they all got laid on top of each other instead of sequentially, but it's still good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN7TITDPuMo

Enjoy.

They could play that live, it's just that they don't want to kill their fans instantly by reality shattering.

Jamesman42

\o\ lol /o/

CodyWanKenobi

Quote from: Darkstarshades on August 07, 2015, 04:59:52 PM
I herd the Roadrunner guy appeared in the studio thread for DT12, I wonder where he is right now...
That was a glorious moment in DTF history.  :lol
My latest concept album "IV: Timber" IS OUT NOW!
linktree = STARCOMMANDStudios

SystematicThought

The ending is really nice. After all that noise, you get the beautiful ToT ending.

And I do find it funny that the album that the record company wanted to be more commercial is also their longest.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: SystematicThought on August 08, 2015, 10:30:00 PM
The ending is really nice. After all that noise, you get the beautiful ToT ending.

And I do find it funny that the album that the record company wanted to be more commercial is also their longest.

That is a little funny. I guess it's because they had longer to write a lot of songs before they eventually got the green light to record it. Look at how many leftover tracks they still had from FII, when I don't think they've had any unused songs since.

Darkstarshades

#2858
Raw Dog was left out of BC&SL in favor of Wither.

But since Raw Dog is 7 minutes long and Wither is only 5, this would leave 2 minutes of empty disk, so they filled the remainder by making ANTR longer.
Hope this info helps.

Train of Naught

Quote from: cramx3 on August 08, 2015, 02:49:43 PM
Quote from: Train of Naught on August 08, 2015, 04:40:38 AM
New Millenium and ITPOE pt. 1 are possibly the two most annoying intro's combined.

NM I will give you... but ITPOE pt1?!  That was cut from the second half because it was too good not to be an album intro. 
Yea, I meant after they are combined.

genome

Quote from: Darkstarshades on August 08, 2015, 06:08:56 PM
You've just infricted copyright 13 times.

Is it technically copyright infringement if the songs are basically indecipherable?

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Darkstarshades on August 08, 2015, 10:47:47 PM
Raw Dog was left out of BC&SL in favor of Wither.

But since Raw Dog is 7 minutes long and Wither is only 5, this would leave 2 minutes of empty disk, so they filled the remainder by making ANTR longer.
Hope this info helps.

I don't know where you got any of this information from, unless I just missed the joke. Raw Dog was not written at the time of BCASL, it was written specifically for the God of War soundtrack, using some leftover ideas from BCASL as a basis.

King Postwhore

"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Onno

Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 09, 2015, 04:32:47 AM
Quote from: Darkstarshades on August 08, 2015, 10:47:47 PM
Raw Dog was left out of BC&SL in favor of Wither.

But since Raw Dog is 7 minutes long and Wither is only 5, this would leave 2 minutes of empty disk, so they filled the remainder by making ANTR longer.
Hope this info helps.

I don't know where you got any of this information from, unless I just missed the joke. Raw Dog was not written at the time of BCASL, it was written specifically for the God of War soundtrack, using some leftover ideas from BCASL as a basis.

I assumed that was a joke  :lol

BlobVanDam

I don't know Darkstarshades well enough to assume one way or another, but if it's a joke, he played it straight enough to fool me. :lol

King Postwhore

Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 09, 2015, 05:19:28 AM
I don't know Darkstarshades well enough to assume one way or another, but if it's a joke, he played it straight enough to fool me. :lol

How's the manure taste Biff?
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Train of Naught

Quote from: Darkstarshades on August 08, 2015, 10:47:47 PM
Raw Dog was left out of BC&SL in favor of Wither.

But since Raw Dog is 7 minutes long and Wither is only 5, this would leave 2 minutes of empty disk, so they filled the remainder by making ANTR longer.
Hope this info helps.
Nah dude I'm pretty sure the remaining 2 minutes were filled by JR in A Rite of Passage.

KevShmev

Quote from: Darkstarshades on August 08, 2015, 10:47:47 PM
Raw Dog was left out of BC&SL in favor of Wither.

But since Raw Dog is 7 minutes long and Wither is only 5, this would leave 2 minutes of empty disk, so they filled the remainder by making ANTR longer.
Hope this info helps.


Setlist Scotty

Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 08, 2015, 10:36:38 PM
Look at how many leftover tracks they still had from FII, when I don't think they've had any unused songs since.
And I think it's a shame that this has happened. I mean, how many cool ideas for songs ended up on the cutting room floor just because they had 75 minutes of completed music? If they're on a roll, why not pursue some of those other ideas further and see how they develop? At the very least, they could be B-sides or saved as bonus tracks for compilations, and at most they might replace some of the lower quality songs that they originally were gonna have on the album. For that matter, if they feel that strongly about the all material, they could release a double album, or release 2 albums 6 months or a year apart.

I know it's a money thing, especially if they still camp out in the studio the same way they did for SFaM, SDoIT, 8v, SC and BCaSL, but I think there's some lost opportunities that could have been awesome. Had they simply written enough for FII to fill a single CD, neither Trial of Tears, Hollow Years and New Millennium would've never existed and Where Are You Now would have been on the album.

I remember talking to JP about doing more tracks than needed for an album in Dec 2011, and he seemed very agreeable to the idea, but I doubt this is the case considering they haven't done any extra tracks since then.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

DarkLord_Lalinc

Quote from: Train of Naught on August 09, 2015, 06:14:47 AM
Quote from: Darkstarshades on August 08, 2015, 10:47:47 PM
Raw Dog was left out of BC&SL in favor of Wither.

But since Raw Dog is 7 minutes long and Wither is only 5, this would leave 2 minutes of empty disk, so they filled the remainder by making ANTR longer.
Hope this info helps.
Nah dude I'm pretty sure the remaining 2 minutes were filled by JR in A Rite of Passage.

By Bebot, specifically.  :D