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Would you trade Rudess and Mangini to have Moore and Portnoy back?

Started by Skeever, August 15, 2014, 03:43:25 PM

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JP and MM for KM and MP

Yes
48 (23.9%)
No
153 (76.1%)

Total Members Voted: 201

Skeever

Yes I'm being diabolical.

Would you do it?

I prefer Moore to Rudess, but could care less about who is on drums. That said, even though Images and Awake are my favorite albums, I doubt the old DT lineup would be able to do it again. The current DT is probably the best possible DT right now.

TheGreatPretender

Moore was good. He had some very good melodies, but he couldn't hold a candle to Rudess even back in the I&W days, let alone now when he probably can't even play as well as he used to. So no, definitely not.

a51502112


Shadow Ninja 2.0

I like both Moore and Portnoy more than their counterparts.

That said, Moore doesn't want to come back and the rest of DT don't want MP back, so, I would say no.

Skeever

Let me add that it's a package deal. You can't just have MP or KM back alone. They come in a bundle.

rumborak

*looks at cards*

.... I give you a Rudess and two Mangini if I get a '95 Petrucci. And don't try to sneak in a Dominici, you know the goal of the game is to not be the last guy with the Charlie card.

TheGreatPretender

I have a holographic Chris Collins... Does anyone want that?

Kotowboy


Skeever

Quote from: rumborak on August 15, 2014, 03:59:37 PM
*looks at cards*

.... I give you a Rudess and two Mangini if I get a '95 Petrucci. And don't try to sneak in a Dominici, you know the goal of the game is to not be the last guy with the Charlie card.
fine, but the trade comes packaged with MP with the short hair and highlights  XD

Sir Walrus Cauliflower

Local authority on over-intellectualizing.

Mosh

Quote from: Skeever on August 15, 2014, 03:47:26 PM
Let me add that it's a package deal. You can't just have MP or KM back alone. They come in a bundle.
If they come back and are playing/writing at the level they were in the Awake days, then yes. If KM is being dragged kicking and screaming into DT and current MP is joining an unwilling DT, then no.

I hope you're willing to throw in Petrucci's Picasso guitar though.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.


SeRoX


rumborak

Dream Theater is what it is, you can't just bring back a specific awesome era by plugging in old characters. It would be like bringing back Carrie Fisher to Star Wars in the hope you get a good movie again.
Wait...

Anguyen92

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on August 15, 2014, 04:07:22 PM
I have a holographic Chris Collins... Does anyone want that?

Is it one of those things that comes with him singing or something like that on it?

TheGreatPretender

Quote from: Anguyen92 on August 15, 2014, 05:03:46 PM
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on August 15, 2014, 04:07:22 PM
I have a holographic Chris Collins... Does anyone want that?

Is it one of those things that comes with him singing or something like that on it?

No, don't worry, you won't actually have to listen to it.

Quote from: rumborak on August 15, 2014, 05:02:51 PM
Dream Theater is what it is, you can't just bring back a specific awesome era by plugging in old characters. It would be like bringing back Carrie Fisher to Star Wars in the hope you get a good movie again.
Wait...

:neverusethis:

The only difference is, DT's albums are all awesome, unlike Star Wars movies.

Tom Bombadil



BlobVanDam


goo-goo

Would of loved to hear either Bobby Jarzombek or Marco Minnemann on drums.

KM for JR? Maybe bring back KM as a lyricist, but that's it.


LudwigVan

This thread reminds me of that famous short story, The Monkey's Paw.

RaiseTheKnife

I've got a Steve Stone rookie card.  Gotta be valuable somewhere, right?

kanutaros


Mosh


Zydar


RaiseTheKnife


Polarbear

Quote from: BlobVanDam on August 15, 2014, 07:57:35 PM
I'd consider trading MM for MP, but JR for KM? Lol no.

This! But we all know it's not happening.

It would be great however, if they would do a couple of special show's with MP and KM. I wouldn't mind seeing Derek in the band, for one last time also.  ;D

Bertielee

No way! It would be a huge step back for the band and an admission of defeat. They have moved forward,  let it be so.

B.Lee

nikatapi

No, because realistically DT would stop as a band shortly after. They seem happy now, so i prefer them continue to exist, even if the music is not that exciting for me.

Stadler

Carrie Fisher now or Carrie Fisher in "Return of the Jedi"?

Zydar

I couldn't even imagine KM being in the band today, not with the kind of music he prefers to play since leaving in 1994.

JP said something in the audio commentary to WDADRU, like "I can't even picture Kev up on stage with us playing Metropolis, with his samples and such".

TheGreatPretender

I find it interesting that people say, "Oh, the band wouldn't be happy" or "it would be an admission of defeat" and while those things may be true, I find it curious that nobody is addressing the actual music. Frankly, I wouldn't even want Moore back musically. Aside from the fact that JR is god among men when it comes to musicianship, even during Moore's last stint with DT, in Awake, I find that most of the keyboard parts on that album were severely lacking. At best, they're non-intrusive and tolerable, but at worst, they were down right grating. If that's the direction where the electronic aspect of their sound was heading, then I definitely say "no thanks".

King Postwhore

Why even address this?  It is what it is.


I will enjoy the music they put out today and not dwell in the past.
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