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Deconstructing DT Vocals v. Lines In The Sand

Started by TheGreatPretender, July 30, 2014, 07:29:45 PM

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TheGreatPretender

Yeah... But now I wish when I signed up on DTF, I had used my real name.  :lol

hefdaddy42

Quote from: noxon on October 19, 2014, 10:49:48 PM
From facebook right now:
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James Labrie
3 mins ·

Hey Everyone,

Hope you're all doing well. Played at Loudpark Festival last night and it was a great gig despite me having to contend with Strep throat. As a professional you have to accept the fact that sometimes the show must go on.
Anyway, noticed on DreamTheater Forum that Great Pretender has the vocal stems for that album and has mentioned that some others are doing back ground vocals. The fact is I did 99% of the BGV with a very select few being done by John Purdell. Hope this sheds some light on that subject. I haven't even heard those stems GP, I envy you. Anyway, take care everyone and see you out there.


James Labrie
2 mins ·

The album I was referring to was the Awake album. Have to check some of those out.
:tup
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Viking of the Sagas

Holy, this blew my mind! Awesome! Especially Caught in a Web.

Some of the backup vocals are kind of creepy.

Plasmastrike

Really entertaining stuff, GreatP. Thanks for digging all this up and sharing. So cool JLB gave you the nod :metal

SeRoX

Now when I listen Octavarium that vox stem come to my mind and make me laugh.  :lol

Great work, GP.  :tup

TAC

The LTL ones are incredible. Thank you for posting.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

TheGreatPretender

Thanks guys! I'm loving the response lately. Leave it to JLB himself to bump the popularity of this thread, eh?

Well, here's the next one I thought was really cool, as I'm sure you guys will too: Lines In The Sand

Interestingly enough, the secondary vocals done by Doug Pinnick, were actually mixed into the Lead vocal stem, and the preceeding parts done by the band members were mixed into the background stem.

adamack

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on October 19, 2014, 11:20:57 PM
Quote from: noxon on October 19, 2014, 10:49:48 PM
From facebook right now:
Quote
James Labrie
3 mins ·

Hey Everyone,

Hope you're all doing well. Played at Loudpark Festival last night and it was a great gig despite me having to contend with Strep throat. As a professional you have to accept the fact that sometimes the show must go on.
Anyway, noticed on DreamTheater Forum that Great Pretender has the vocal stems for that album and has mentioned that some others are doing back ground vocals. The fact is I did 99% of the BGV with a very select few being done by John Purdell. Hope this sheds some light on that subject. I haven't even heard those stems GP, I envy you. Anyway, take care everyone and see you out there.


James Labrie
2 mins ·

The album I was referring to was the Awake album. Have to check some of those out.

Holy crap. That just blew my mind!

Oh wow this is crazy! I had no idea that they checked this forum. I always assumed Portnoy did at one point, since he is so into the internet community, but not James.

Too cool.

fischermasamune


BlobVanDam

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on October 21, 2014, 01:49:52 PM
Thanks guys! I'm loving the response lately. Leave it to JLB himself to bump the popularity of this thread, eh?

Well, here's the next one I thought was really cool, as I'm sure you guys will too: Lines In The Sand

Interestingly enough, the secondary vocals done by Doug Pinnick, were actually mixed into the Lead vocal stem, and the preceeding parts done by the band members were mixed into the background stem.

I always liked those backup vocals on the first verse, and how it follows so closely to the lead melody, with a few deviations, sometimes only a tone apart, creating an interesting sound, not quite doubling, not quite a harmony.
The thing I find most interesting on FII is the use of early MP/JP vocals, before it was common on later albums. You can hear MP on that lower octave on that chorus.

I'd love to hear more FII stuff, such as the JP/MP vocals at the end of Hollow Years isolated, or even (don't laugh) the chorus bg vocals on BMS.

Infinite Cactus

Don't forget Derek Sherinian is also in the mix with MP and JP.

Infinite Cactus

Also, love Dug's vocals on pretty much anything. Soulful as fugg...

TheGreatPretender

Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 21, 2014, 06:48:46 PM

I'd love to hear more FII stuff, such as the JP/MP vocals at the end of Hollow Years isolated, or even (don't laugh) the chorus bg vocals on BMS.

All in due time, my friend!  :coolio

ToT-147

 :tup Very helpful thread.. Actually, I'm also a 'collector' of isolated DT tracks.. I could share the whole stuff, but I know that would carry to not precisely pleasant consequences for me.. Anyway, here's with what I contribute for now.. One of the "new-classics"... https://www.mediafire.com/listen/l4niaapw3y2ux3p/1-_On_the_Backs_of_Angels_-_Vocals.mp3

TheGreatPretender

Quote from: ToT-147 on October 21, 2014, 10:17:48 PM
:tup Very helpful thread.. Actually, I'm also a 'collector' of isolated DT tracks.. I could share the whole stuff, but I know that would carry to not precisely pleasant consequences for me.. Anyway, here's with what I contribute for now.. One of the "new-classics"... https://www.mediafire.com/listen/l4niaapw3y2ux3p/1-_On_the_Backs_of_Angels_-_Vocals.mp3

Cool. Which ones do you have?

Zook

Dug's vocals sound much better isolated. I don't know what they did to them on the album, but I never cared for them.

ToT-147

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on October 22, 2014, 05:16:38 AM
Quote from: ToT-147 on October 21, 2014, 10:17:48 PM
:tup Very helpful thread.. Actually, I'm also a 'collector' of isolated DT tracks.. I could share the whole stuff, but I know that would carry to not precisely pleasant consequences for me.. Anyway, here's with what I contribute for now.. One of the "new-classics"... https://www.mediafire.com/listen/l4niaapw3y2ux3p/1-_On_the_Backs_of_Angels_-_Vocals.mp3

Cool. Which ones do you have?

I have a lot of isolated tracks.. The files in mp3, not like you, though, the jammit ones... So the vast majority are guitar stems, guitar backingtracks, keys stems, and bass... Vocal stems I only have 15, but they're all unedited.. I mean except for OtBoA, in the rest there are the respective silences among the vocal lines.. However, these I have:

- Pull Me Under
- Wait for Sleep
- Learning to Live

- The Silent Man
- Scarred
- Space-Dye Vest

- You not Me

- Home
- One Last Time (2 tracks, with main and overlaid vocals)

- The Answer Lies Within
- These Walls
- Never Enough

- Constant Motion

- Wither

- On the Backs of Angels

TheGreatPretender

Oh cool! The only ones of those I don't have are the Constant Motion ones. I don't suppose you could upload them?

Sourcegamer101

Quote from: ToT-147 on October 23, 2014, 10:23:56 AM
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on October 22, 2014, 05:16:38 AM
Quote from: ToT-147 on October 21, 2014, 10:17:48 PM
:tup Very helpful thread.. Actually, I'm also a 'collector' of isolated DT tracks.. I could share the whole stuff, but I know that would carry to not precisely pleasant consequences for me.. Anyway, here's with what I contribute for now.. One of the "new-classics"... https://www.mediafire.com/listen/l4niaapw3y2ux3p/1-_On_the_Backs_of_Angels_-_Vocals.mp3

Cool. Which ones do you have?

I have a lot of isolated tracks.. The files in mp3, not like you, though, the jammit ones... So the vast majority are guitar stems, guitar backingtracks, keys stems, and bass... Vocal stems I only have 15, but they're all unedited.. I mean except for OtBoA, in the rest there are the respective silences among the vocal lines.. However, these I have:

- Pull Me Under
- Wait for Sleep
- Learning to Live

- The Silent Man
- Scarred
- Space-Dye Vest

- You not Me

- Home
- One Last Time (2 tracks, with main and overlaid vocals)

- The Answer Lies Within
- These Walls
- Never Enough

- Constant Motion

- Wither

- On the Backs of Angels

I have every single stem, vocals to instrument for Overture 1928 and One Last Time, perhaps we could set up an exchange?

ToT-147

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on October 23, 2014, 02:17:19 PM
Oh cool! The only ones of those I don't have are the Constant Motion ones. I don't suppose you could upload them?

Right... That one's not on Jammit.. You said "ones" btw.. So do you want the whole tracks from CM or just the vocals?.. Here's the good news anyway: I have ALL those files I mentioned (and ALL the ones I have) already uploaded in MF.. In fact, recently I suffered the contrariety of losing everything in my pc, but fortunately the files I had in the cloud now I was able to recover.. (Advice: save your valuable files in some place safe...) Almost 2GB of isolated tracks I had there... and I still have, luckily..

So, here's the Constant Motion Vocal Stem: https://www.mediafire.com/download/mbhhe1ieg9x4ieh/3-+Constant+Motion+-+Vocals.mp3

If you want the others, just ask for it (from this song I actually have all the separate instruments); or anyone else who want any other stem (guitars, keys, bass, drums, guitar backingtracks) from several songs.... no problem at all.. Send me MP or whatever... I haven't them all.. But I have plenty...

I could also write the whole "catalogue" of tracks I have.. But I don't know what are the limits to share links on the forum... Just let me know if I should do it.. I'd have no problem at all..  :tup

Quote from: Sourcegamer101 on October 23, 2014, 03:13:59 PM
I have every single stem, vocals to instrument for Overture 1928 and One Last Time, perhaps we could set up an exchange?

We already did.. Right here: https://www.youtube.com/user/147pablox/discussion

I'm THAT Pablo...  :D

Sourcegamer101


ToT-147

I guess it's just a small DT-fans-who-want-isolated-DT-tracks-world...  ;D

But yeah, what a coincidence!..