MP getting insulted

[King Postwhore]

Well, we don't even know if the fan did that to razz him and I thing most would have better judgement to wear that.


That being said, Mike needs to move on.

[Sir Walrus Cauliflower]

No, it's very possible that's why the fan wore it. But even if so, the best response would be to make a joke about it, and show everyone you've moved on. He could've just said "hey, nice shirt" and laughed it off. If the fan was trying to irritate him, they wouldn't have gotten the reaction they wanted.

EDIT:
From a person on his FB page:

[King Postwhore]

Or just signed what the kid had and not allow the fan to know he recognized it.

[Setlist Scotty]

Gotta agree that it was in bad taste for the fan to wear that shirt to an MP signing, but I also agree that MP should've kept his feelings to himself. Not sure why he felt the need to post something this time about it this time.

I know for a fact that this is certainly not the first time this ever happened. When I went to a Winery Dogs show in March, I wore a DT-sweatshirt and I apologized for wearing it. He told me that he didn't have a problem with it, since it was from the MP-era, but that there has been occasions where fans have worn MM-era DT shirts. Perhaps this was the straw that broke the camel's back and that's why he commented - I dunno. And it's true that this fan could've done this simply to get a rise out of MP; but it could be that it was the only DT T-shirt he had. Hard to say.

[Sir Walrus Cauliflower]

I agree with you, Scotty. It could have be that he was just having a bad day and that just hit a nerve. Considering all the possible situations, it probably would've been best to just not react.

[SeRoX]

I once went to the DT concert by wearing JLB's solo EoP t-shirt on. Now I'm worried if the other members would feel insulted.

[gm5k]

I once went to the DT concert by wearing JLB's solo EoP t-shirt on. Now I'm worried if the other members would feel insulted.

Mangini definitely wouldn't 

[rumborak]

Now I'm afraid to wear anything post-WDADU, since there's always the chance that I might bump into Charlie. But even if I wear a WDADU shirt, I might bump into Chris Collins, and he'd be pissed at that. Aargh!

[ReaPsTA]

lol

[TheGreatPretender]

I once went to the DT concert by wearing JLB's solo EoP t-shirt on. Now I'm worried if the other members would feel insulted.

Mangini definitely wouldn't 

I wore my Impermanent Resonance T-Shirt to their previous concert. Heck, I've met people who say when you go to a band's concert, you should wear any T-Shirt BUT theirs. (Which I think is kinda silly) The point is, wearing another band's T-Shirt at a concert is a pretty standard practice. I imagine back in the late 80s, early 90s, there were plenty of people at Megadeth concerts wearing Metallica T-Shirts. But obviously Mustaine didn't tell those fans to get the fuck out of the concert hall.

But yeah, ultimately, it really comes down to the fact that MP went out of his way to make that post on Facebook, complaining that someone wore an ADTOE T-Shirt to see him. Seemed like a cry for attention and sympathy, but it really didn't come off as very tactful. I bet that fan COULD'VE come back from it and said, "I was hoping to get a reaction out of Mike, but he was totally cool about it." Instead, now, this hot little story is out, and we all know that he's still all hurt about it. And clearly regardless of how we feel about the guy who actually wore the T-Shirt, the general consensus is, "It's time to move on and get over it."

[rumborak]

Seriously though, I can't fault the fan. He probably wore the shirt because it simply related to the music of the day. How is that guy supposed to know that 4 years later MP still hasn't moved on?

[BlobVanDam]

I don't really have a problem with his tweet, assuming he didn't respond the same in person.

[TheGreatPretender]

I don't really have a problem with his tweet, assuming he didn't respond the same in person.

If anything, I'd be more okay if that's how he responded in person. I mean, right there and then, in the moment, I could understand if he let his feelings get the better of him and said, "Come on, man, did you have to wear that?"
But after the fact, when he had time to think about the post, I think it would've been the smarter decision to not post it.

[KevShmev]

Mike Portnoy truly is the gift that keeps on giving.

[PROGdrummer]

All things considered, why the fuck was that guy wearing an ADTOE shirt to an MP event?
Did he really not have any other shirts that he could have possibly worn? Like, ANY other shirt at all? If he intentionally wore that shirt knowing full well that he's going to be seen by Mike (it was a signing event, after all. It's not like he saw both DT and the Winery Dogs at Sonisphere and went to get autographs afterwords or something), thats a pretty dick move through and through. He literally could have worn anything else.

MP still kind of over-reacted tho

[TheAtliator]

He could have written something that was a little nicer to that fan. Obviously this explosion would happen- DUH, which is kinda sad that he can't just say his mind without everyone blowing up about it. He's at fault here for being rude to that fan in his post (he could have posted about the incident in a more obviously light-hearted and understanding way), but the public is at fault (which obviously theres no fixing that) for blowing up at every comment he makes just because he's one of the few people who will say what he means.

[TheGreatPretender]

All things considered, why the fuck was that guy wearing an ADTOE shirt to an MP event?
Did he really not have any other shirts that he could have possibly worn? Like, ANY other shirt at all? If he intentionally wore that shirt knowing full well that he's going to be seen by Mike (it was a signing event, after all. It's not like he saw both DT and the Winery Dogs at Sonisphere and went to get autographs afterwords or something), thats a pretty dick move through and through. He literally could have worn anything else.

Am I the only one who considered the idea that this fan was actually working for Blabbermouth, wore the T-Shirt to get a reaction out of troll MP just so that Blabbermouth could have another non-story about Mike Portnoy? 

[gm5k]

I wore my Impermanent Resonance T-Shirt to their previous concert. Heck, I've met people who say when you go to a band's concert, you should wear any T-Shirt BUT theirs. (Which I think is kinda silly) The point is, wearing another band's T-Shirt at a concert is a pretty standard practice. I imagine back in the late 80s, early 90s, there were plenty of people at Megadeth concerts wearing Metallica T-Shirts. But obviously Mustaine didn't tell those fans to get the fuck out of the concert hall.

FTR, I wasn't saying Mangini would act a certain way in a situation compared to Portnoy.  Was just jokingly referencing the fact that he played on Elements of Persuasion.

[TheGreatPretender]

I wore my Impermanent Resonance T-Shirt to their previous concert. Heck, I've met people who say when you go to a band's concert, you should wear any T-Shirt BUT theirs. (Which I think is kinda silly) The point is, wearing another band's T-Shirt at a concert is a pretty standard practice. I imagine back in the late 80s, early 90s, there were plenty of people at Megadeth concerts wearing Metallica T-Shirts. But obviously Mustaine didn't tell those fans to get the fuck out of the concert hall.

FTR, I wasn't saying Mangini would act a certain way in a situation compared to Portnoy.  Was just jokingly referencing the fact that he played on Elements of Persuasion.

I wasn't talking about Mangini specifically, but I'm sure that JR, JM and JP weren't too offended that I wore a JLB shirt specifically. 

And JLB got a kick out of it, so I'm happy. 

[YtseJamittaja]

I think his reaction was pretty silly, but considering the emotions involved (him being a founding member of DT and being an integral part of the band for 25 years, and the band being his "baby"), I can feel at least some sympathy for the guy.

A more normal reaction would have been "Oh, that guy has a Dream Theater T-Shirt. So he really loves the band that I was such an important part of for so many years, it's nice to know that your life worth of musical accomplishments is appreciated"

But instead he focused on the ADTOE aspect. Without knowing the guy in the T-shirt personally, isn't it more likely that he's just some poor guy who is a huge DT-fan, got the first DT T-shirt he could, wore it to "honor" MP without even knowing or realizing that MP wasn't on ADTOE? I find it hard to believe that he would show up just to taunt MP.

This exactly.

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Of course the fan could've picked a better T-shirt for the occasion, but I doubt he was intentionally trying to piss MP off. MP shouldn't let one T-shirt ruin his day...

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

I once went to the DT concert by wearing JLB's solo EoP t-shirt on. Now I'm worried if the other members would feel insulted.

Mangini definitely wouldn't 

I wore my Impermanent Resonance T-Shirt to their previous concert. Heck, I've met people who say when you go to a band's concert, you should wear any T-Shirt BUT theirs. (Which I think is kinda silly) The point is, wearing another band's T-Shirt at a concert is a pretty standard practice. I imagine back in the late 80s, early 90s, there were plenty of people at Megadeth concerts wearing Metallica T-Shirts. But obviously Mustaine didn't tell those fans to get the fuck out of the concert hall.

But yeah, ultimately, it really comes down to the fact that MP went out of his way to make that post on Facebook, complaining that someone wore an ADTOE T-Shirt to see him. Seemed like a cry for attention and sympathy, but it really didn't come off as very tactful. I bet that fan COULD'VE come back from it and said, "I was hoping to get a reaction out of Mike, but he was totally cool about it." Instead, now, this hot little story is out, and we all know that he's still all hurt about it. And clearly regardless of how we feel about the guy who actually wore the T-Shirt, the general consensus is, "It's time to move on and get over it."

I wore a In Flames shirt on a Maiden concert once, nobody said a thing. Infact alot of people as you say have all kinds of band shirts especially on metal concerts, it's all cool. When you think about the history of member rotations in rock/metal bands being like a fuckin farise wheel it would be impossible to not offend any member past or present at any given time but truth be told most people don't care.

[wolfking]

MP, still not over it.  He seriously needs to accpet that the band moved on without him despite his intentions for the band.

I do however agree that if you are going to a MP signing, wearing ADTOE shirt is a bit stupid, but maybe that's the only piece of MP related merch that guy had.

MP should have kept this thought in his head though.

[Phoenix87x]

Well, now I know what shirt to wear the next time I go to a MP event 

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

 

[Jay.Ess]

I can see completely where MP is coming from. Why does someone have to wear a band t-shirt anyway? If that's all you had, you think you'd just use your fricking brain and wear a plain t shirt or ANYTHING else. Problem solved.

MP is well within his rights to say that, but it's the way he said it that rubs people the wrong way. I don't have a problem with the point he is making.

With MP posting this, he may get a few trolls in real life who wear MM Era DT stuff just to have a joke and shit stir.

I'm not on either side, and I can certainly agree with the sentiment from many it's time (Or past time..) to move on. But I can feel sympathy for Portnoy. Some of the things he cops from Dream Theater fans is disgusting, show some respect. Without Portnoy we wouldn't have the band today.

[JiM-Xtreme]

I can see completely where MP is coming from. Why does someone have to wear a band t-shirt anyway? If that's all you had, you think you'd just use your fricking brain and wear a plain t shirt or ANYTHING else. Problem solved.

I was just scrolling though this entire thread thinking exactly this, and right when I got to the end saw that someone had already done it for me 

There is no reason whatsoever why anyone should feel they have to wear a band/music related t-shirt to go to a music event, whether it's directly related to the band/musician in question or otherwise. I have been to many DT shows and have several shirts from different tours in my wardrobe, but I never wear them to the actual gigs. It's not like you have to prove your a DT fan by doing that... I mean, you've clearly already bought a ticket to the show... 

...so, yeah. If the dude really wanted to just "honour" MP I'm sure he could have thought of some other way to do it... like, I don't know, telling him to his face what an inspiration he has been, or whatever.

That's why I'm just a little bit sceptical about the dude's intentions.

[Tomislav95]

Plot twist: Dude was wearing a Circus Maximus shirt

[KevShmev]

I can see completely where MP is coming from. Why does someone have to wear a band t-shirt anyway? If that's all you had, you think you'd just use your fricking brain and wear a plain t shirt or ANYTHING else. Problem solved.

You're kidding, right?  Who thinks a musician is gonna flip out over something so inconsequential?

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

I can see completely where MP is coming from. Why does someone have to wear a band t-shirt anyway? If that's all you had, you think you'd just use your fricking brain and wear a plain t shirt or ANYTHING else. Problem solved.

MP is well within his rights to say that, but it's the way he said it that rubs people the wrong way. I don't have a problem with the point he is making.

With MP posting this, he may get a few trolls in real life who wear MM Era DT stuff just to have a joke and shit stir.

I'm not on either side, and I can certainly agree with the sentiment from many it's time (Or past time..) to move on. But I can feel sympathy for Portnoy. Some of the things he cops from Dream Theater fans is disgusting, show some respect. Without Portnoy we wouldn't have the band today.

Easy, tiger.

Why would someone bother in going to a MP signing session just to piss him off? Also, nobody's arguing Portnoy's input to Dream Theater; I think anyone would agree that musically he was a key element back then; but unfortunately he isn't anymore... (nor he was after 2005 IMO) but hey, that's another story. When the breakup was still fresh, a lot of MP's takes on MM-era Dream Theater related subjects were so ridiculous it was funny...nowadays I think it's just sad. I did feel sympathy for him once, like the time Petfish criticized The Best on Times in his forum and he completely lost it (I mean, he completely exaggerated back then but I think it was kind of justified), but olol bringing a ADTOE t-shirt to a signing session?

[Kotowboy]

You're kidding, right?  Who thinks a musician is gonna flip out over something so inconsequential?

It would be like MP losing his shit over someone wearing an Annihilator t shirt because Mangini was their drummer and he is now in Dream Theater.

[ReaPsTA]

Guys, we should learn from this.  If any of us go to a DT meet and greet, we need to make sure not to wear anything pre ADTOE.  Mangini might get sad.

[ZKX-2099]

Should I not wear my Hail To The King shirt to any MP events?

Also...

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/guns_n_roses_ban_slash_t-shirts_at_shows.html?no_takeover

[RodrigoAltaf]

I have a Winery Dogs shirt, and was careful enough not to wear it at the DT meet & greet I went to.
I think Mike has the right to be upset. And for those who say it's time for him to move on because it's been four years since he left, where does it say that his grieving period over  the circumstances that led him out of the band should x or y years? He's clearly still upset about it, and I doubt the fan's intention by wearing the ADTOE shirt at MP's event.

With all that said,  a fridnd of mine got Jordan's autograph on a FII copy. It makes a difference whether you're still in the band or not, of course!

[Mosh]

With all that said,  a fridnd of mine got Jordan's autograph on a FII copy. It makes a difference whether you're still in the band or not, of course!

No, Jordan is just reasonable enough that he understands the guy probably didn't realize Jordan isn't on FII and isn't going to throw a fit over it. Even if JR was out of the band, I'm pretty positive he wouldn't act the way MP did.