A recurring lyric haunting my dreams

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Theme Dreater

I'm sure this has been pointed out before, but has anyone ever noticed that the word "dream" occurs lyrically at least once in every studio album DT has ever released? I wonder if that was intentional?

The Letter M

Occurrences of "dream(s/ed/ing)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 3
IAW - 6
Awake - 4
FII - 2
SFAM - 5
SDOIT - 4
TOT - 1
8VM - 2
SC - 2
BC&SL - 2
ADTOE - 3
DT12 - 3

Very interesting find! I think it's not TOO much of a coincidence, but neat otherwise!

-Marc.

BlobVanDam

I remember once before someone ran all of DT's lyrics into a sort of tag cloud to see the most commonly used words. I believe the usage of the word "dream" was in fact the reason that was done. I can't remember what other words popped up, so hopefully someone else still has that, or is willing to do an updated version that includes the newer albums since then.

Invisible

Great catch! The most surprising for me was that Train of Thought almost doesn't make it. I'd love to see that tag cloud, by the way.

Mladen

That's some pretty cool statistics, M.  :tup

Zook

I think Nightwish has the word wish in every single one of their songs.

twanky

Similar to Ronnie James Dio and his fixation with Rainbows  :angel:

ZKX-2099


Mebert78

On a related note, every Dream Theater studio album title up until Octavarium actually had a dream/reality/mind-related theme to it:

When Dream and Day Unite
Images and words
Awake
Falling Into Infinity
Scenes From a Memory
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Train of Thought

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hefdaddy42

Quote from: The Letter M on March 18, 2014, 07:19:13 PM
Occurrences of "dream(s/ed/ing)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 3
IAW - 6
Awake - 4
FII - 2
SFAM - 5
SDOIT - 4
TOT - 1
8VM - 2
SC - 2
BC&SL - 2
ADTOE - 3
DT12 - 3
I knew it would be you.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

The Letter M

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on March 19, 2014, 08:43:41 AM
Quote from: The Letter M on March 18, 2014, 07:19:13 PM
Occurrences of "dream(s/ed/ing)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 3
IAW - 6
Awake - 4
FII - 2
SFAM - 5
SDOIT - 4
TOT - 1
8VM - 2
SC - 2
BC&SL - 2
ADTOE - 3
DT12 - 3
I knew it would be you.

What, am I *that* predictable now? :facepalm: :lol

-Marc.

Invisible

Quote from: Mebert78 on March 19, 2014, 07:22:04 AM
On a related note, every Dream Theater studio album title up until Octavarium actually had a dream/reality/mind-related theme to it:

When Dream and Day Unite
Images and words
Awake
Falling Into Infinity
Scenes From a Memory
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Train of Thought
Add that to the fact that FII was originally named Stream of Conciousness, JP always had a fixation with mind issues :lol.

ZKX-2099

You could say his mind was beside himself.

Nearmyth


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Add that to the fact that FII was originally named Stream of Conciousness, JP always had a fixation with mind issues :lol.
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Really? I didn't know that :lol That makes sense though, I always thought it was peculiar when LaBie sang "in a stream of consciousness" in Lines In The Sand.

Another_Won

I think the other words were "door", "water" and "friend"

GasparXR

Quote from: Mebert78 on March 19, 2014, 07:22:04 AM
On a related note, every Dream Theater studio album title up until Octavarium actually had a dream/reality/mind-related theme to it:

When Dream and Day Unite
Images and words
Awake
Falling Into Infinity
Scenes From a Memory
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Train of Thought



I don't know whether Dream Theater is too obvious to add to the list or too much of a stretch because it's named after the band. :lol

TheGreatPretender

Justify/Justified seems like another word that's quite frequently used by DT.

The Letter M

Quote from: Another_Won on March 19, 2014, 12:57:20 PM
I think the other words were "door", "water" and "friend"

Occurrences of "door(s)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 2
IAW - 2
Awake - 2
FII - 1
SFAM - 4
SDOIT - 4
TOT - 1
8VM - 0
SC - 0
BC&SL - 1
ADTOE - 0
DT12 - 0

Occurrences of "water(s)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 1
IAW - 4
Awake - 2
FII - 2
SFAM - 0
SDOIT - 0
TOT - 1
8VM - 0
SC - 1
BC&SL - 1
ADTOE - 2
DT12 - 1

Occurrences of "friend(s)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 0
IAW - 0
Awake - 1
FII - 0
SFAM - 2
SDOIT - 2
TOT - 2
8VM - 0
SC - 1
BC&SL - 2
ADTOE - 0
DT12 - 0

Occurrences of "justify/justified" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 0
IAW - 0
Awake - 0
FII - 0
SFAM - 0
SDOIT - 2
TOT - 2
8VM - 0
SC - 0
BC&SL - 0
ADTOE - 0
DT12 - 1

Occurrences of "love(s/ed/ing)/loving" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 1
IAW - 7
Awake - 4
ACOS - 1
FII - 1
SFAM - 11
SDOIT - 5
TOT - 4
8VM - 2
SC - 3
BC&SL - 4
ADTOE - 1
DT12 - 5

-Marc.

425

Quote from: Zook on March 19, 2014, 02:33:53 AM
I think Nightwish has the word wish in every single one of their songs.

It actually only took me one try to find a counterexample: Storytime.

However, they definitely do have more than their share of recurring lyrics. Many of the songs on the album Once have the word "once," and most of Imaginaerum has "awe." And, of course, there's the terms that Tuomas personally likes to use a lot, like "Dead Boy" or "Ocean Soul."

JayOctavarium

How many times do "I" "me" or "my" appear? I bet it's a lot. Selfish assholes....

The Letter M

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Quote from: JayOctavarium on March 19, 2014, 02:22:10 PM
How many times do "I" "me" or "my" appear? I bet it's a lot. Selfish assholes....

Occurrences of "I/me" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 17
IAW - 53
Awake - 35
FII - 71
SFAM - 55
SDOIT - 62
TOT - 7
8VM - 88
SC - 90
BC&SL - 35
ADTOE - 26
DT12 - 12

-Marc.

ThatOneGuy2112

It sometimes feels like "grace" shows up quite a bit in DT's lyrics.

But I would bet that the word "the" and "and" pop up a lot more often, not entirely sure though.

djbj

It would be really cool if someone made a video in this style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrrnySxbuE8 for "Dream Theater likes Dreams". Though they evidently don't like dreams quite as much as Dio likes the night or Metallica likes death...

Another_Won

Quote from: The Letter M on March 19, 2014, 02:20:15 PM
Quote from: Another_Won on March 19, 2014, 12:57:20 PM
I think the other words were "door", "water" and "friend"

Occurrences of "door(s)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 2
IAW - 2
Awake - 2
FII - 1
SFAM - 4
SDOIT - 4
TOT - 1
8VM - 0
SC - 0
BC&SL - 1
ADTOE - 0
DT12 - 0

Occurrences of "water(s)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 1
IAW - 4
Awake - 2
FII - 2
SFAM - 0
SDOIT - 0
TOT - 1
8VM - 0
SC - 1
BC&SL - 1
ADTOE - 2
DT12 - 1

Occurrences of "friend(s)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 0
IAW - 0
Awake - 1
FII - 0
SFAM - 2
SDOIT - 2
TOT - 2
8VM - 0
SC - 1
BC&SL - 2
ADTOE - 0
DT12 - 0

I just looked at my post in this thread https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=32157.0 to come up with those words.

I don't know what I was thinking . . .

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#24
Quote from: The Letter M on March 19, 2014, 02:31:11 PM
Quote from: JayOctavarium on March 19, 2014, 02:22:10 PM
How many times do "I" "me" or "my" appear? I bet it's a lot. Selfish assholes....

Occurrences of "I/me" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 17
IAW - 53
Awake - 35
FII - 71
SFAM - 55
SDOIT - 62
TOT - 7
8VM - 88
SC - 90
BC&SL - 35
ADTOE - 26
DT12 - 12

-Marc.

So the actual reason why SC isn't a good album is that they were so full of themselves when making it :neverusethis:

But seriously, I find it funny that most of the albums with the most occurrences of "dream" are my favorites :D
Quote from: djbj on March 19, 2014, 03:04:02 PM
It would be really cool if someone made a video in this style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrrnySxbuE8 for "Dream Theater likes Dreams". Though they evidently don't like dreams quite as much as Dio likes the night or Metallica likes death...
There's at least one (maybe two) video like that; it was "Dream Theater in 15 seconds" or something like that. There was also a "DT likes doors" video with various lines including "door".

Theme Dreater

Quote from: The Letter M on March 19, 2014, 02:31:11 PM
Quote from: JayOctavarium on March 19, 2014, 02:22:10 PM
How many times do "I" "me" or "my" appear? I bet it's a lot. Selfish assholes....

Occurrences of "I/me" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 17
IAW - 53
Awake - 35
FII - 71
SFAM - 55
SDOIT - 62
TOT - 7
8VM - 88
SC - 90
BC&SL - 35
ADTOE - 26
DT12 - 12

-Marc.


Right, so how many time does the word "you" get mentioned? I'm pretty pretty sure DT said themselves that it's all about you and not me.

Invisible

Quote from: Nearmyth on March 19, 2014, 12:32:54 PM

Add that to the fact that FII was originally named Stream of Conciousness, JP always had a fixation with mind issues :lol.
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Really? I didn't know that :lol That makes sense though, I always thought it was peculiar when LaBie sang "in a stream of consciousness" in Lines In The Sand.
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They changed it because the rest of the guys and I think the record guys thought it was too pretentious. Like "Falling Into Infinity" isn't :lol. He got his revenge with the instrumental, although I was never sure if it was because of that or the lyrical theme of Vacant(falling into a coma, or unconscious).

Invisible

By the way, is The Letter M a bot? Like DTF Siri? If you look at his answers on this thread, it seems that way :lol.

Jaffa


ToT-147

Quote from: The Letter M on March 18, 2014, 07:19:13 PM
Occurrences of "dream(s/ed/ing)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 3
IAW - 6
Awake - 4
FII - 2
SFAM - 5
SDOIT - 4
TOT - 1
8VM - 2
SC - 2
BC&SL - 2
ADTOE - 3
DT12 - 3

Very interesting find! I think it's not TOO much of a coincidence, but neat otherwise!

-Marc.

So TOT it's the only one in to having it just 1 time.. which it's the best one IMO: "This undying dream" (in ES).. You have TDS there, the "Dream" concerned and even a vague "under-dog"..  :eek

ToT-147

Quote from: The Letter M on March 18, 2014, 07:19:13 PM
Occurrences of "dream(s/ed/ing)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 3
IAW - 6
Awake - 4
FII - 2
SFAM - 5
SDOIT - 4
TOT - 1
8VM - 2
SC - 2
BC&SL - 2
ADTOE - 3
DT12 - 3

Very interesting find! I think it's not TOO much of a coincidence, but neat otherwise!

-Marc.

You've forgotten ACOS..

A single occurrence:

"I was blinded by a paaaaaradise... Utopiaaa hiiiiiigh in the skyyyy... A dream that onlyyyyy drowned meeeee... Deep in sooorrooooow, wondering whyyyyyy..."

ToT-147

Quote from: The Letter M on March 18, 2014, 07:19:13 PM
Occurrences of "dream(s/ed/ing)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 3
IAW - 6
Awake - 4
FII - 2
SFAM - 5
SDOIT - 4
TOT - 1
8VM - 2
SC - 2
BC&SL - 2
ADTOE - 3
DT12 - 3

Very interesting find! I think it's not TOO much of a coincidence, but neat otherwise!

-Marc.

And this recurring stat haunted my dreams.. :lol It inspired me to make a video..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-6vJZpjaS4

Invisible

Good job! Although nit picking you forgot The Way It Used To Be(B Side on Cleaning Out The Closet)

"I lay down and enter a dream
Unlike anywhere I've been
All is silent and sweet"


:angel:

Theme Dreater

Quote from: ToT-147 on March 27, 2014, 07:48:07 PM
Quote from: The Letter M on March 18, 2014, 07:19:13 PM
Occurrences of "dream(s/ed/ing)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 3
IAW - 6
Awake - 4
FII - 2
SFAM - 5
SDOIT - 4
TOT - 1
8VM - 2
SC - 2
BC&SL - 2
ADTOE - 3
DT12 - 3

Very interesting find! I think it's not TOO much of a coincidence, but neat otherwise!

-Marc.

And this recurring stat haunted my dreams.. :lol It inspired me to make a video..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-6vJZpjaS4

:D

That's awesome, well done.

RoeDent