Instrumental versions of more studio albums?

[augie0041]

After a long day I found myself listening to the instrumental versions of Black Clouds and Dramatic Turn of Events.  Now I've been hunting for more instrumental versions of previous albums.  I found things like the Systematic Chaos Instrumental Demos, but they don't really match the finalized version of the songs.  Does anyone know if there's a list of songs out there that have an instrumental version?  I found some interesting things on youtube or wherever by searching for karaoke, but I'd rather find a place to buy them as a set or something. 

[McNugg]

https://www.jammit.com/

[augie0041]

Yeah I saw jammit.com. I'd pay 3.99 per track (Even though that'd get real expensive quickly) but having to pay $3.99 for the drums, and another $3.99 for guitar, etc.  That's just too much.  Then I'd have to figure out a way to merge them all somehow.  This site encourages me that the tracks exist without the vocal track at least!

[Shadow2222]

Yeah I saw jammit.com. I'd pay 3.99 per track (Even though that'd get real expensive quickly) but having to pay $3.99 for the drums, and another $3.99 for guitar, etc.  That's just too much.  Then I'd have to figure out a way to merge them all somehow.  This site encourages me that the tracks exist without the vocal track at least!

Ah, but the beauty is, all you have to do is buy the vocal track. What you get when you buy a track is actually the ability to remove that instrument, so when you buy the vocals, you get the whole song, but can remove the vocals to make it instrumental

The ONLY downfall is that you can only listen to it in the app for iPhone or on the PC app (you can't export it as an MP3, for example).

[TheAtliator]

You also get the sheet music. And to make an mp3- you could record what's playing into a recording software like garage band on the Mac and then export that to an mp3.

[augie0041]

Thanks for these suggestions, I can definitely see buying a few of my favorite tracks, but I did the math and it will cost $45 to buy the entire Scenes album and $50 to buy Falling into Inifinity.  I wish they had bundle pricing!

[JiM-Xtreme]

How did you get hold of the SC demos?

[JayOctavarium]

I'm guessing he means TOT demos?

[TheGreatPretender]

Ah, but the beauty is, all you have to do is buy the vocal track. What you get when you buy a track is actually the ability to remove that instrument, so when you buy the vocals, you get the whole song, but can remove the vocals to make it instrumental

The ONLY downfall is that you can only listen to it in the app for iPhone or on the PC app (you can't export it as an MP3, for example).

I found a way to export it, but it's really ghetto, since Jammit is a pretty brutal program, disabling the use of recording in any other software that you may have running. Basically, I had to connect  a cord from the headphone jack on one computer into the microphone jack of my other computer, and then play it off Jammit on one and use my other one to record it in real time. It was tough, and expensive, (and annoying because the Windows version of Jammit is in beta and the audio crackles every once in a while, so I had to record multiple takes and then compile the uncrackled pieces together) but in retrospect, it was worth it. I now have Scenes From A Memory in instrumental format. 

[BlobVanDam]

Ah, but the beauty is, all you have to do is buy the vocal track. What you get when you buy a track is actually the ability to remove that instrument, so when you buy the vocals, you get the whole song, but can remove the vocals to make it instrumental

The ONLY downfall is that you can only listen to it in the app for iPhone or on the PC app (you can't export it as an MP3, for example).

I found a way to export it, but it's really ghetto, since Jammit is a pretty brutal program, disabling the use of recording in any other software that you may have running. Basically, I had to connect  a cord from the headphone jack on one computer into the microphone jack of my other computer, and then play it off Jammit on one and use my other one to record it in real time. It was tough, and expensive, (and annoying because the Windows version of Jammit is in beta and the audio crackles every once in a while, so I had to record multiple takes and then compile the uncrackled pieces together) but in retrospect, it was worth it. I now have Scenes From A Memory in instrumental format. 

Does it actually disable other programs being able to record, or is it an ASIO related thing? If I'm running my ASIO driver, no other sound will work on my computer but that one program. Can you change what audio driver it uses?

Or maybe that's completely unrelated and this is a useless post.

[TheGreatPretender]

Does it actually disable other programs being able to record, or is it an ASIO related thing? If I'm running my ASIO driver, no other sound will work on my computer but that one program. Can you change what audio driver it uses?

Or maybe that's completely unrelated and this is a useless post.

Every software I tried basically starts acting like it doesn't detect a recording device at all. So whether you're trying to record your actual computer sound, or whether you connect your microphone jack to your headphone jack, it simply doesn't allow the program to start recording sound.

[BlobVanDam]

Does it actually disable other programs being able to record, or is it an ASIO related thing? If I'm running my ASIO driver, no other sound will work on my computer but that one program. Can you change what audio driver it uses?

Or maybe that's completely unrelated and this is a useless post.

Every software I tried basically starts acting like it doesn't detect a recording device at all. So whether you're trying to record your actual computer sound, or whether you connect your microphone jack to your headphone jack, it simply doesn't allow the program to start recording sound.

I think that is a different issue then, to stop people doing exactly that for obvious reasons.

[TheGreatPretender]

I think that is a different issue then, to stop people doing exactly that for obvious reasons.

Yeah, that would be my guess too. My only problem with that, is that Jammit advertises the program as being able to record your vocals on the actual Jammit software. That's all good and fine, but I was assuming that it would mix your vocals with the instrumental of the song, and allow you to export the 'cover' version, so to speak. But nope, it only allows you to record your vocals, and if it does save them (which I don't remember if it does), it will save them without the instrumental. Either way, I had to jump through a lot of hoops, but damn it, for $4+ per song, I feel like I deserve to have them in MP3 format, especially since Jammit on Windows is quite prone to crashing and stuff.

[morkie]

Sadly jammit hasn't put out any material for a long time now. They actually ran out of the material they had to release. They had a gap and then released Change of Seasons but now have gone quiet on all DT stuff and took the banner off their website that said 'New DT every Thursday!' which I'm glad about because sometimes it was 6 or 7 weeks between songs.

The material they have released is amazing but nothing from a bunch of albums I'd like to hear like SC and BCSL - but Awake and SFAM and so on are great! Maybe it's a rights thing.

I've gotten many DT tracks and when they have a sale I grab some more each time. Hearing the guitar work isolated is amazing for me.

Speaking an an IT guy You can certainly dump out the audio via a few methods but they don't make it easy. You can't close the analog loop though, worst case!

If you have the tracks, vocals, drums, etc you can knit them together crudely in Audacity for example or go to Garageband or one of the many audio tools and play with them.

I remember On the Backs of Angels stems were downloadable for people that bought the CD if you went to a certain website and put your CD in your computer drive, so I got those. BCSL stems were on the collectors edition on a DVD. I have the stems from Behind The Veil from the special edition of DT12

Any others out there?

I'm slightly obsessed with it...heh

[TheGreatPretender]

The material they have released is amazing but nothing from a bunch of albums I'd like to hear like SC and BCSL - but Awake and SFAM and so on are great! Maybe it's a rights thing.

Most likely. Another issue is that BCSL already has instrumental versions, and even Stems available for all the songs. But that being the case, why would you even want to resort to Jammit when those are available?

Systematic Chaos, however, is an issue. I really want to get instrumentals for it, and it's a damn shame that there was no collector's edition for those, or anything of the sort. Hopefully Jammit will secure something with RR and get those out as well eventually.

[augie0041]

I found this interesting bit of info on the interweb:

To rip WAV audio files from Jammit:
1. Find "C:/Users/MyName/AppData/Local/Jammit" on Windows, or
   "/Users/MyName/Library/Application Data/Jammit" (I think?) on Mac.
2. Find the right subfolder (look at each "info.plist" to check song/instrument).
3. The audio files end in "_jcfx". One or two is the instrument audio,
   the other one is the backing track.
4. Put ".aifc" on the end, open in iTunes, and export to WAV:
   Edit > Preferences, General tab, Import Settings, Import Using WAV Encoder.
   Then right-click on the song and choose "Create WAV Version".
5. Right-click your new WAV version and click "Show in Windows Explorer".
6. Convert to MP3 using any software, I used Audacity.

[TheGreatPretender]

I found this interesting bit of info on the interweb:

To rip WAV audio files from Jammit:
1. Find "C:/Users/MyName/AppData/Local/Jammit" on Windows, or
   "/Users/MyName/Library/Application Data/Jammit" (I think?) on Mac.
2. Find the right subfolder (look at each "info.plist" to check song/instrument).
3. The audio files end in "_jcfx". One or two is the instrument audio,
   the other one is the backing track.
4. Put ".aifc" on the end, open in iTunes, and export to WAV:
   Edit > Preferences, General tab, Import Settings, Import Using WAV Encoder.
   Then right-click on the song and choose "Create WAV Version".
5. Right-click your new WAV version and click "Show in Windows Explorer".
6. Convert to MP3 using any software, I used Audacity.

You sir, are my hero.