Poll: What Best Explains How You Want DT13 To Be Like?

[adamack]

I know we are still 2 years away, but that leaves all the more time to speculate and have fun with what DT13 is going to be like.

Choose as many options as you wish to customize exactly how you want DT13 to sound! Or, if your idea is not listed, you can always add in the final option and explain in this thread precisely how you want it to sound.

As an example, here are my choices:

I'm choosing Metropolis Part 3 and Double DT.

My dream album for DT13 would be a double disc, with one of the discs being Metropolis Part 3, in the form of one huge 50 minute epic concept track. A followup to SFaM.

Then, the other disc could be similar to disc 1 of SDoIT.

I realize this is probably not practical, but hey...just having fun with it. 


What option(s) would you choose?

[Lucien]

Conceptual experimental DT

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

no rap option

[adamack]

no rap option

Bahaha.

That option ceased with the loss of MP...

[Outcrier]

no rap option

C'mon, they can't even do prog metal anymore
I voted for Conceptual or Experimental DT.

[Rhayader]

Don't care about it as long as it is good. After D12 my expectations are zilch.

[JiM-Xtreme]

I absolutely think the time is right for a new concept album, so that was a no brainer for me!

[Ruba]

Interesting thread. I'll go through all of the suggestions.

Metropolis Part 3: Please no.

Vintage DT: Images and Awake are my two favourite DT albums, but they have moved on. And it wouldn't work without Moore.

Experimental DT: I'm always open for something experimental. Voted.

Metallic DT: I like their metal side, but then again, I don't care about Train of Thought.

Double DT: I'm not completely against it, but I feel most of their albums have some filler in ~70 minutes. So logically, ~120 minutes would have even more filler.

DT12-2: I generally prefer their 8-15 minute songs to shorter ones. So no.

Blacker Clouds: I would be OK with it (see above). Didn't vote for it, but now when I think about it, it might be good. Maybe I was distracted by BC&SL.

Soul-Sellers: Thankfully this is never going to happen. I love some commercial sounding records, like Risk by Megadeth, but I don't see it working with DT.

That being said, You Not Me is a good song.

Conceptual DT: Voted. Would be cool.

70's Prog: I like some 70s prog, but it's not their thing.

[adamack]

Interesting thread. I'll go through all of the suggestions.

Vintage DT: Images and Awake are my two favourite DT albums, but they have moved on. And it wouldn't work without Moore.

Agreed. It can be a very bad thing when bands try to revisit their older material.

DT12-2: I generally prefer their 8-15 minute songs to shorter ones. So no.

Agreed as well. Though I personally love DT12, their 8-15 minute songs are, overall, my favorite.

Soul-Sellers: Thankfully this is never going to happen. I love some commercial sounding records, like Risk by Megadeth, but I don't see it working with DT.

I can appreciate tons of commercial records too, but I agree in that it wouldn't work for them, and that it's not gonna happen.

Conceptual DT: Voted. Would be cool.

+1

70's Prog: I like some 70s prog, but it's not their thing.

Agreed again. I think if they went this route, I would end up being very disappointed. I personally am a fan of their harder side, and I believe that this would be sacrificed if they chose to go "all 70's".

[adamack]

I absolutely think the time is right for a new concept album, so that was a no brainer for me!

Hell yeah! I too believe that it is the perfect time. Though I'm confident they will continue after DT13, they will be getting up there in age at that point. And I DEFINITELY want them to release another concept album before it's all said and done.

So to be safe, I really hope this next one is a concept album

[Cable]

Other; A better master, and lyrics from three members. That's all, the music is up to them and I enjoy the stuff they do, even if it's not as good as XYZ album.

[krands85]

I'll list the things I wouldn't like to see:
Metropolis Part 3: A concept followup to the highly acclaimed SFaM. - I love Scenes, but I think doing a follow up is unecessary - it might limit them somewhat and it will be tricky trying to live up to Scenes, possibly only managing to disappoint people with such high expectations. I wouldn't be disappointed with a concept album in general, though I'd probably prefer it not to be one - as their whole tends to be greater than the sum of it's parts and I'd rather have an album with a few absolute top tier tracks.
Experimental DT: -Something entirely new that DT has never tried before. - I guess it would depend what it is, but generally I'm not a fan of bands I love completely abandoning their succesful style and going in a completely different direction (eg. Radiohead). Some experimentation is fine, but I wouldn't want to lose that core DT sound.
DT12-2: Something similar to DT12: Not a concept album/Shorter songs with one epic. An epic is fine, but the other songs on DT12 are too short for my liking.
Blacker Clouds: 5 or 6 long songs like BCaSL. - Sort of the opposite to the above. While I like the longer songs, I don't like them to be longer just for the sake of it. There is a lot of excess fat that could have been trimmed from BC - even from the likes of ANTR which I love. With so few songs, you have to nail pretty much every one of them otherwise people might feel a bit short-changed.
Soul-Sellers: A 100% mainstream album. 4 minute-ish songs, catchy and poppy. No.Don't need to say anything more than that here 

I'm not really sure what '70s prog' sounds like tbh, but I'm guessing it wouldn't be quite to my taste.

I can understand why they decided to go for shorter, more concise songs this time around. Even though I prefer the longer songs, I wouldn't have minded too much, but I think they just went too far in the opposite direction here. A lot of the songs don't have enough room to stretch their legs, a few of them start or end a bit abruptly. A couple of minutes extra here or there and it could have been a great album, but I hope this isn't a taste of what's to come. I also would like Jordan to be much more at the forefront of the next album. He was fantastic on ADTOE - MVP for me on that album - but he's far too restrained on DT12.

I'd also want them to pay a bit more attention to the mixing/mastering next time. I'd always heard people mention 'ear fatigue' or 'listening fatigue' but I couldn't say I'd experienced it myself before, until this album. It was just a tiring listen and there's really no excuse for that IMO. Especially when the HDTracks version pretty much remedies it. There are also plenty of sections where certain members are mixed a bit low and when I first listened to the album I felt the guitar was a bit overpowering and drowned everything else out, though that chocolate cake tone is great. 

[Outcrier]

Metropolis Part 3: No.

Vintage DT: No.

Experimental DT: Yes.

Metallic DT: Definitely no.

Double DT: Maybe.

DT12-2: No.

Blacker Clouds: Definitely no.

Soul-Sellers: Maybe 

Conceptual DT: Yes.

70's Prog: Maybe.

[Obfuscation]

I want Twelve Degrees of Inner Turbulence as a quadruple CD album with the last song being 80 minutes long. So basically a double dose of SDoIT.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

I just want it to be great.

Those hoping for DT to do something "experimental" and "entirely new" are hoping for something that will not happen. A future album could sound different from previous one-- and I think DT12 does sound different from its priors-- but it is not entirely new and unlike anything they've done before.

The way they did the last 2 albums in terms of sound is good enough for me. Different enough from the others, but still totally DT and within the style they've crafted all these years.

[Tom Bombadil]

I voted experimental, because I really want to see them branch out a bit more. Completely different is a bit exaggerated, but I want something different sounding.

[Outcrier]

I just want it to be great.

Those hoping for DT to do something "experimental" and "entirely new" are hoping for something that will not happen.

I voted experimental but i know that's not gonna happen.

[BlobVanDam]

I don't care what they do, as long as it's good, and to me there's no formula for that. I couldn't even describe what I want, because they could follow it to the letter and still write either a bad album, or a perfect one.

As long as it's something new, and fresh, and well written, I'll find enjoyment from it.

[1neeto]

WTF why the hate towards another SFAM? Nicholas comes back as the Count Of Tuscany and ends the world. Yep.

[adastra]

I'd love it to be softer like FII , with catchy songs.
4-6 min long songs with shorter solos. cool funky guitar playing and not just that boring "E-string with palm mute" -shit
Hollow Years, Peruvian Skies, Just let Me Breathe (!!!!!!), Anna Lee, Lifting shadows, 6:00 ..  That kind of songs! 
That guitar tone doesn't have to be so fucking distorted.

[ddtonfire]

I only voted for one option: experimental, in a similar mindset as 6DoIT. There was a ton of cool stuff going on there and it had an awesome atmosphere.

I am afraid that MM's one-dimensional drums will not be able to match MP's three-dimensional musical soundscapes he made with his kit.

[Sourcegamer101]

I wish for more Train of Thought-esque albums. I had fun jamming/listening to the heavier metal side of DT. A few favorites of mine were Honor Th-

Screw it, the entire album is epic.

[wasteland]

I voted for experimental and conceptual, even though I really think they don't need to do anything in particular. They just have to go by whatever direction they feel is best, the present situation doesn't demand anything definite.

[?]

I only voted for one option: experimental, in a similar mindset as 6DoIT. There was a ton of cool stuff going on there and it had an awesome atmosphere.

This.

[Polarbear]

I only voted for one option: experimental, in a similar mindset as 6DoIT. There was a ton of cool stuff going on there and it had an awesome atmosphere.

I am afraid that MM's one-dimensional drums will not be able to match MP's three-dimensional musical soundscapes he made with his kit.

I agree. They should take all the time they need to make the next album. Maybe even 3-4 years, so they can have a fresh mindset into the new album. 2 disc- concept like SDOIT would be exactly what the band needs at this point.

Now that i have thought about it, i think the biggest problem for me with DT12 is that it sounds so familiar. It sounds like they want to play it safe, to please as many fans as possible.

Make the next album UNFAMILIAR to us.

[The Stray Seed]

Experimental.

[adastra]

Experimental.

Experimental as in Illud Divinum Insanus-Experimental

[puppyonacid]

I'm gonna go with Metropolis part 3 and here's why.

Metropolis Pt I was a song

Metropolis Pt II was an album

Therefore logic suggests that Metropolis Pt III will be an entire discography. I expect then that they will simultaneously release 10 albums at once.

[eosforum]

I just want DT to surprise me. To listen to the new record and go "is this really DT? They haven't sounded like that before!"
This has happened to me with all their releases except from BC&SL and ADTOE.

[Kotowboy]

50% something completely new and unexpected and 50% DT12 part 2 just to keep up their steady increase in popularity ( for the band's sake ).

[adamack]

I am afraid that MM's one-dimensional drums will not be able to match MP's three-dimensional musical soundscapes he made with his kit.

I know just what you mean. I'm no drummer, but I believe that MM could achieve the same exact sound spectrum with some different drum mic routing and with some panning and space design adjustments in the mixing program that JP and their engineer use.

In other words, I'm pretty sure that the more "dimensional" sound of hi hats and toms flying off at all different directions in the soundscape was purely an issue of mixing and microphone placement/recording, and can be achieved quite easily by MM.

And I agree in that I prefer MP's "soundscapes" to MM's.

[Perpetual Change]

DT12-2. At this juncture in their careers, it doesn't make sense to do anything other than what they've done for two albums, now: safe albums that please the vast majority of their fans. No point in them diving into uncharted territory.

[Kotowboy]

DT12-2. At this juncture in their careers, it doesn't make sense to do anything other than what they've done for two albums, now: safe albums that please the vast majority of their fans. No point in them diving into uncharted territory.

Their whole career is un-CHART-ed

[Perpetual Change]

Also, I can't believe "something DT have never done before" is the most popular option so far. Considering the average age of the band, and the fact that it's the full time professional of all its members who need it to be successful for their own financial security, DT "doing something experimental, that they never have done before" is the equivalent of a 50 year old guy suddenly withdrawing his entire 401k and taking it to Vegas.

[OsMosis2259]

Went with conceptual album.

I know this would never happen but it would be cool if they worked with Steven Wilson or Jens Bogren. Any album that those two are involved with just sounds incredible.