John Myung for the best bassist - another Loudwire poll

[RoeDent]

To me, buying the albums and (for those in such a privileged position to be able to do so) seeing them live is enough support for a band. Krieger hit the nail on the head.

[Cable]

Like some others said, this is a little ridiculous. Who one over who, and who is left behind way too early (Sean Malone, Alex Webster, Geezer etc) is based solely on OMG XYZ BAND RULEZ!!!

[adastra]

This is like some kind of psychological experiment; "Let's see how many polls we can create before people start not giving a fuck about them.
AAAAAAaaaaargh!

[The Stray Seed]

Guys, a looot of votes are needed in order to win this one!!! https://loudwire.com/john-myung-vs-steve-harris-greatest-metal-bassist-final-round/

[bosk1]

I'll vote for Myung, but he absolutely won't win this.

[Tick]

I'll vote for Myung, but he absolutely won't win this.

and that's why these polls are pure nonsense. Not that Steve Harris isn't awesome but he comes down to mainstream popularity, not talent.

[bosk1]

Yes, but although Myung is more talented than Harris, Harris is extremely talented, on top of being extremely influential and extremely popular.  I have no problem with Harris winning this.  And I'm sure if you asked John Myung, he wouldn't have any problem with Harris winning it either.

You are right that these polls are pure nonsense.  But Steve Harris beating John Myung is not the reason why.

[Tick]

Yes, but although Myung is more talented than Harris, Harris is extremely talented, on top of being extremely influential and extremely popular.  I have no problem with Harris winning this.  And I'm sure if you asked John Myung, he wouldn't have any problem with Harris winning it either.

You are right that these polls are pure nonsense.  But Steve Harris beating John Myung is not the reason why.

Oh I agree with you. I'm just saying, its not a fair fight.

[Anguyen92]

I think anything regarding these loudwire polls is a fair fight.  You guys were the ones that voted to beat Metallica's Master of Puppets despite having 10% of # of Metallica fans so popularity means nothing in regards to these polls. 

It's always going to be how many people are aware of it in the 1st place and for that matter, they have the option on picking who they think is better.  For the time being, it's Steve Harris.  Tough luck for now.

[Obfuscation]

JM FO LYFE!!!!

[Perpetual Change]

Woah, OK. Steve Harris deserves this.

Sure, Myung is technically a better player. But Steve Harris is not just a bassist, but a primary songwriter and mastermind of Iron Maiden. He's a great player, too.

[eosforum]

The Final is ON! Get to it

[Shine]

Vote so far -

JMX - 49.7%

Harris - 51.3%

Damn. I will admit, it was a tough call for me. JMX isn't just an amazing bassist, he's also a brilliant songwriter. But Harris is just damn good. Damn, damn good. I ended up voting for Harris, but if I couldn't guarantee I'd vote that way again.

[1neeto]

JM just took a slight lead. I'm just happy that either Cliff Burton or Paul Gray are in the finals. I wish Ryan Martinie made it further. He's a brilliant bassist.

[Dellers]

Steve Harris bores the hell outta me, so I'll be voting for Myung. He's also a far more versatile and creative bassist to my ears. Myung is actually one out of very few metal bass players that I like. Bass and metal is usually a bad combination in my world.

[Tick]

I'll vote for Myung, but he absolutely won't win this.

Don't be so sure.

[425]

Voted for JMX, though it breaks my heart to see Steve as an option and not vote for him. So fantastic to see these two in the finals, though!

[wasteland]

Well, of course I'm gonna vote JM, but despite not being very aware of his work (despite knowing how major he has always been in his group) I very well know that he is among the musicians who had the biggest influence on our JMX.

[AngelBack]

57.4 JMX, maybe, just maybe.....

[Cable]

This is why these things are ridiculous. Sure, Myung is more versatile.

But for Petes sake, not only is Harris from an earlier era, but Harris was a primary influence OF Myung's. He grew up speeding up an album to play along with. So without Harris, no Myung.

[425]

Tired argument. Just because Harris influenced Myung does not make him better. Otherwise the greatest bassist ever is the first person to have played the bass. And the greatest novel of all time is The Epic of Gilgamesh. Of course you're right that without Harris there would be no Myung (at least the way we know him today), but that does not make Harris better than Myung. Perhaps Myung learned a lot from Harris and then came up with his own things or added other influences that make him better than Harris.

I say this as a huge fan of Iron Maiden and Steve Harris. And if you honestly think Steve is better, vote for Steve. But the "Steve influenced JMX, therefore Steve is better than JMX" argument does not hold one ounce of water.

[Ruba]

I don't vote. I don't care anymore.

I prefer Myung. Harris is very influential but for gawd's sake, he really should use some other chord progression than Em-C-G-D, just for a change.

[Obfuscation]

Tired argument. Just because Harris influenced Myung does not make him better. Otherwise the greatest bassist ever is the first person to have played the bass. And the greatest novel of all time is The Epic of Gilgamesh. Of course you're right that without Harris there would be no Myung (at least the way we know him today), but that does not make Harris better than Myung. Perhaps Myung learned a lot from Harris and then came up with his own things or added other influences that make him better than Harris.

I say this as a huge fan of Iron Maiden and Steve Harris. And if you honestly think Steve is better, vote for Steve. But the "Steve influenced JMX, therefore Steve is better than JMX" argument does not hold one ounce of water.

Thank you. I was going to write some thing alone those lines but happy to see you already did. Just because someone influenced somebody else's playing and has been around for longer with a more known band, doesn't automatically make him better than the guy that comes after him.

[Cable]

But I didn't say Harris is better, just that comparing different eras of bassists is odd because one predates and influenced another greatly. It is not far off comparing athletes of different eras. Jim Brown vs Barry Sanders, Michael Jordan vs LeBron James and etc. There are advances in knowledge that occur all the time. The only difference is musicians of old still sometimes play in the era of newer, more knowledgable players.

We are comparing artists in a pissing match when it misses the mark a touch.

[Jaffa]

Personally, I just don't understand why these polls have to be analyzed so much.  The bottom line is, some people find them fun, and others don't.  Why can't the members of the latter group just let the members of the former group have their fun?

[BlobVanDam]

Personally, I just don't understand why these polls have to be analyzed so much.  The bottom line is, some people find them fun, and others don't.  Why can't the members of the latter group just let the members of the former group have their fun?

Exactly! If you think it's stupid, don't ruin the fun for those who want to participate.
None of us take it too seriously, but we like to band together as a fanbase and show support for DT. Simple as that.

[adastra]

Personally, I just don't understand why these polls have to be analyzed so much.  The bottom line is, some people find them fun, and others don't.  Why can't the members of the latter group just let the members of the former group have their fun?

Exactly! If you think it's stupid, don't ruin the fun for those who want to participate.
None of us take it too seriously, but we like to band together as a fanbase and show support for DT. Simple as that.

Yeah, you guys are correct... But Maybe admin could make a new subforum " Loudwire Polls" cos these f***ers are popping up almost everday 

[?]

Of course Harris is a legend, but there's no way I couldn't vote for JMX - bass playing is his life (it would be awesome to see JM shout that like Derek on 5YIALT )

[425]

But I didn't say Harris is better, just that comparing different eras of bassists is odd because one predates and influenced another greatly. It is not far off comparing athletes of different eras. Jim Brown vs Barry Sanders, Michael Jordan vs LeBron James and etc. There are advances in knowledge that occur all the time. The only difference is musicians of old still sometimes play in the era of newer, more knowledgable players.

We are comparing artists in a pissing match when it misses the mark a touch.

That's still pretty wrong. Harris and Myung play the same instrument. Just because Iron Maiden formed in 1975 and Dream Theater formed in 1985 doesn't meant that their musicians can't be compared. Are you seriously telling me that if I asked who "Who is better - Steve Harris or the first guy ever to play the bass?" you would say that I can't compare them because they're from different eras? What if I asked you between Geddy Lee and Nikki Sixx?

And as you alluded to in your penultimate sentence, your whole entire argument is invalidated anyway by the fact that both Iron Maiden and Dream Theater play in the same era - the present day.

I don't know much basketball, but I'm sure someone who did could have a justified opinion about whether Michael Jordan or LeBron James is/was the better basketball player. Just like I have a justified opinion about who is the better bassist despite the fact that one of the choices is a few years older than the other one.

[Mladen]

Whoa, this is close! I'll have to go with Harris, but still, I'm happy that my two favorite metal bassists are the top two. 

[Cable]

But I didn't say Harris is better, just that comparing different eras of bassists is odd because one predates and influenced another greatly. It is not far off comparing athletes of different eras. Jim Brown vs Barry Sanders, Michael Jordan vs LeBron James and etc. There are advances in knowledge that occur all the time. The only difference is musicians of old still sometimes play in the era of newer, more knowledgable players.

We are comparing artists in a pissing match when it misses the mark a touch.

That's still pretty wrong. Harris and Myung play the same instrument. Just because Iron Maiden formed in 1975 and Dream Theater formed in 1985 doesn't meant that their musicians can't be compared. Are you seriously telling me that if I asked who "Who is better - Steve Harris or the first guy ever to play the bass?" you would say that I can't compare them because they're from different eras? What if I asked you between Geddy Lee and Nikki Sixx?

And as you alluded to in your penultimate sentence, your whole entire argument is invalidated anyway by the fact that both Iron Maiden and Dream Theater play in the same era - the present day.

I don't know much basketball, but I'm sure someone who did could have a justified opinion about whether Michael Jordan or LeBron James is/was the better basketball player. Just like I have a justified opinion about who is the better bassist despite the fact that one of the choices is a few years older than the other one.

You win man, I'm not going to go back and forth on it or say "wrong" on misinterpretation.     Blob and Jaffa hit where I was going.

Enjoy the poll!

[gmillerdrake]

JMX is getting best right now 44% to 55%.....

[Madman Shepherd]

Yes, but although Myung is more talented than Harris, Harris is extremely talented, on top of being extremely influential and extremely popular.  I have no problem with Harris winning this.  And I'm sure if you asked John Myung, he wouldn't have any problem with Harris winning it either.

I'm sure if you asked John Myung he wouldn't have a problem with anybody winning over him. 

[snapple]

I think JMX is better than Steve Harris...but yeah he's not going to win.

[gmillerdrake]

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