Rewriting The Best of Times

[Kotowboy]

Whilst we're on the subject :

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What do you think ? I lost my mum too but -

1. I didn't write a song about it and put it on an album then release the demo so people could hear how it sounded with ME singing it.

2. I don't remind people every chance I get.


This just seems a little off-colour to me. It should be private first and foremost. Secondly you don't keep reminding your fans that your dad died 5 years ago and you certainly don't use it as an excuse to promote a product.

I probably have this all wrong - but to me at least - this is just an opportunity to remind people he was in DT and get them to download / play a song for which he has writing credit.

Flame on if you want but stuff like this just irks me because it should have been private from the beginning.

See Also : Tears In Heaven by Eric Clapton.. My son died ! Bummer ! Best release a single about it !

[Madman Shepherd]

Hm, I agree with you in sentiment.  I am a relatively private person and don't understand how people are so open about that stuff BUT...

It's his life.  People mourn in different ways.  People write different lyrics.  I think its futile to object to this because some people might think LaBrie shouldn't write songs about war, or Petrucci shouldn't make light of a cannibals.  Whatever.  If we as fans lay down all these rules then we stifle the creativity of a band.  Of course there will be some bumps along the way but overall I don't understand this nitpicking. 

On a different note, I think it is more tactless of Mike to link people to copyrighted material from his previous band...especially when in the description the person says he prefers that version over LaBrie's version.  In fact, I find it more hilarious (in a bad way) than tactless.  Plus that dudes channel is full of copyrighted DT material. 

[Ben_Jamin]

Its a personal song to MP because while he was writing it, he showed it to his dad whom later died. He meant it as a homage to his dad, his influence in his life.

I see no reason to change it, nor would I be sad if it never got played live. Hell, most bands never ever play the song I'd like them to play, so I go in without expectations to what I'll hear, I enjoy the band and like to see them play which is all that matters to me.

[Kotowboy]

On a different note, I think it is more tactless of Mike to link people to copyrighted material from his previous band...especially when in the description the person says he prefers that version over LaBrie's version.  In fact, I find it more hilarious (in a bad way) than tactless.  Plus that dudes channel is full of copyrighted DT material.

That's the other thing too. He has to know all the MP fanboys are gonna be all MP =DT etc. 

[rumborak]

On a different note, I think it is more tactless of Mike to link people to copyrighted material from his previous band...especially when in the description the person says he prefers that version over LaBrie's version.  In fact, I find it more hilarious (in a bad way) than tactless.

Honestly, that was my first thought. Oh look, MP shows us how the song was supposed to sound like! Because, I really don't see how that recording can count as a "demo". The only thing that isn't as in the final version are the strings I think.

I have to say, despite the fact that MP's nasal singing is clearly an inferior version of the song, I actually think they should have let MP sing the tune on the album.

[KevShmev]

Eh, I don't see the big deal with this.  I am not saying I would handle it in the same way, but people mourn in different ways, and considering he is a rock star with a very open personality, this is par for the course.  Not a big deal.

[rumborak]

Yeah, in the end he will probably (understandably) more comfortable posting his song with his vocals, than the full proper DT tune.

Still, I think he should have sung the tune on the album.

[Onno]

I probably have this all wrong - but to me at least - this is just an opportunity to remind people he was in DT and get them to download / play a song for which he has writing credit.

I could not disagree with you more. Everyone handles personal matters differently, but MP sure as hell is not the only person who prefers to write songs/lyrics about those experiences. I know that I would probably write personal (but maybe less specific/direct) lyrics as well if I ever were to get in a band. I'm absolutely with MP here. IMO, it's a great song, but regardless of that, it's MP's personal tribute and thank-you-for-everything to his father that is undoubtedly coming straight from his heart, and I couldn't say anything bad about him sharing that song on the day his father died 5 years ago. Having an absolutely great relationship with your dad and then losing him after so many years is not something to describe as "reminding your fans your dad died 5 years ago and as an excuse to promote a product". I'm really sorry man, but I think that's just completely ridiculous.

Regarding MP sharing the demo version with him on vocals, I get that. Why would he not? I mean, he wrote the song and this version is the one he played to his dad while his dad was basically dying. MP stated in the Lifting Shadows book that he thought JLB really sung the song well, so I don't mind this at all.

[BlobVanDam]

Whilst we're on the subject :

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdJvZ4dIAAA_6jn.png:large


What do you think ? I lost my mum too but -

1. I didn't write a song about it and put it on an album then release the demo so people could hear how it sounded with ME singing it.

2. I don't remind people every chance I get.


This just seems a little off-colour to me. It should be private first and foremost. Secondly you don't keep reminding your fans that your dad died 5 years ago and you certainly don't use it as an excuse to promote a product.

I probably have this all wrong - but to me at least - this is just an opportunity to remind people he was in DT and get them to download / play a song for which he has writing credit.

Flame on if you want but stuff like this just irks me because it should have been private from the beginning.

See Also : Tears In Heaven by Eric Clapton.. My son died ! Bummer ! Best release a single about it !

I'm not even seeing what you're complaining about here. Looks fine to me.

[hefdaddy42]

Yeah, I don't really see a problem either.

[JiM-Xtreme]

Everyone deals with their sorrows in a way that suits them. No one has a right to tell them how they should do so. That is all.

[Prog Snob]

Everyone deals with their sorrows in a way that suits them. No one has a right to tell them how they should do so. That is all.

That's basically what I said in my TBOT write-up in my DT Top 50 song thread. 

[Cool Chris]

I have to say, despite the fact that MP's nasal singing is clearly an inferior version of the song, I actually think they should have let MP sing the tune on the album.

Why would any band release a version of a song they knew to be inferior? Just to placate one band member's feelings?

[Zook]

The song should have just been a b-side.

[JayOctavarium]

The song should have just been a b-side.

I'd have so  much more respect for it if it had.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

I don't see why. Being a b-side would have very little effect on the quality of the song.

[Prog Snob]

It's a good song and serves it's pragmatic purpose.  It wasn't meant to be another Metropolis or Trial of Tears.

[Dream Team]

Yeah, in the end he will probably (understandably) more comfortable posting his song with his vocals, than the full proper DT tune.

Still, I think he should have sung the tune on the album.

I agree, largely because Labrie's vocals in the verses are some of my least favorite of his ever.

[BlobVanDam]

I don't see why. Being a b-side would have very little effect on the quality of the song.

I don't know, it seems to help the scraps from FII.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

Well, I have not heard them, so I shall withhold any comments.

[?]

I don't see why. Being a b-side would have very little effect on the quality of the song.

It would've had an effect of the album itself - less filler