Self Titled Album Discussion thread [Expect Spoilers]

[PixelDream]

So yeah, this album is pretty f-ing awesome. I like that I can actually hear Myung for a change.

For a change? He's way more audible on Train of Thought.

[theanalogkid7]

That being said, False Awakening Suite reminds me a bit of the opening of The Odyssey by Symphony X.

Oculus Ex Inferni

More accurate - thank you!

[BlobVanDam]

Wait, I think I missed something - listening to the Rolling Stone stream. False Awakening seemed really short and had no vocals. Did they do something wrong?

No, it's a 2:42 long instrumental. Nothing wrong!

[Bolsters]

Wait, I think I missed something - listening to the Rolling Stone stream. False Awakening seemed really short and had no vocals. Did they do something wrong?

It was verified a long time ago that it's instrumental and only goes for 2:42. The stream is fine.

[adastra]

The orchestral section in the middle of IT...absolutely beautiful and moving...

Best Orchestral stuff from DT by miles!   SDOIT Overture sounds like child's play compared to that!

[aprilethereal]

That being said, False Awakening Suite reminds me a bit of the opening of The Odyssey by Symphony X.

Oculus Ex Inferni



And I'm glad the IT intro isn't as long and boring as the SDOIT overture

The SDOIT overture is better.

I'd agree if it was six minutes shorter.

[BlobVanDam]

That being said, False Awakening Suite reminds me a bit of the opening of The Odyssey by Symphony X.

Oculus Ex Inferni



And I'm glad the IT intro isn't as long and boring as the SDOIT overture

The SDOIT overture is better.

I'd agree if it was six minutes shorter.

HURRRRRRRRRR

It's perfect, you silly man.

[lyfeternl]

Illumination Theory vocals starting at 11:45...


      JLB

[WildeSilas]

Wow. The Looking Glass reminds me of Surrounded so much - nothing specific, but the vibe and brightness of it. I've wanted to hear something like this from them since Solitary Shell. Brilliant.

[BlobVanDam]

Illumination Theory vocals starting at 11:45...


      JLB

He goes up to an F5. Only a semitone off THE F#.

[Elite]

Just started my listen:

False Awakening Suite: HOLY SHIT!!!! Best thing I've heard from them in a long time. Damn!
And so far The Enemy Inside makes a lot more sense in the album context.

I'm more of an album type guy, so singles can usually ruin my experience, but this is fucking A so far.

I said to myself I wouldn't listen to this stream, but apparently, I can't help myself.

This post is incoherent.

[wasteland]

Illumination Theory vocals starting at 11:45...


      JLB

Absolutely stunning! The highest he's ever gone on a verse since Take The Time!

[eviljust]

That being said, False Awakening Suite reminds me a bit of the opening of The Odyssey by Symphony X.

Oculus Ex Inferni



And I'm glad the IT intro isn't as long and boring as the SDOIT overture

The SDOIT overture is better.

I'd agree if it was six minutes shorter.

you made me lol but I can't agree with this 

[PixelDream]

Illumination Theory has started. Along for the Ride wasn't that bad in context of the album. The Enemy Inside has more power, backed by FAS. This album is not bad at all!!

[Marion Crane]

99% JP is using an 8 string on FAS

[aprilethereal]

The ambient sounds section of IT just started. The first time I'm slightly let down while listening to DT12

[Petruccinator12]

-) Where's the bass solo in Enigma Machine?! Or was it supposed to be in IT?
-) Is there a guitar solo in The Bigger Picture....?!

Absolutely stunning stuff....just incredible..I love Enigma Machine

[Nihil-Morari]

The orchestra is really nicely arranged, I really want to know if Jordan did the arranging too.
But wonderful, the moment it goes back to DT is great, you nearly forget you're listening to a DT record.

[PixelDream]

Nooo way Illumination Theory is great! I'm only in the instrumental intro but Jordan is rockin' it sooo hard!

[theseoafs]

Oh my god, the beginning of The Bigger Picture is beautiful.

[BlobVanDam]

99% JP is using an 8 string on FAS

Probably a baritone guitar?

[SystematicThought]

-) Where's the bass solo in Enigma Machine?! Or was it supposed to be in IT?

Absolutely stunning stuff....just incredible..I love Enigma Machine

The bass solo was a few seconds long

[Hayden]

Illumination Theory has started. Along for the Ride wasn't that bad in context of the album. The Enemy Inside has more power, backed by FAS. This album is not bad at all!!

Just reached it then, and am thinking the same thing. I didn't really like "AftR" at all when I first heard it, but it's a nice fit in the album.

[atmyne]

99% JP is using an 8 string on FAS

hmmm I had the same thought. I don't think this is the case though...
It would be really cool if John busted out and played around with an 8 on the next album though.

[aprilethereal]

Fuck, the orchestral section of IT, I'm dying. Unbelieveable.

[Petruccinator12]

-) Where's the bass solo in Enigma Machine?! Or was it supposed to be in IT?

Absolutely stunning stuff....just incredible..I love Enigma Machine

The bass solo was a few seconds long

Oke, I got it...a bit disappointing. :/ but apart of that ... 

[mikemangioy]

Ok, imma post my thoughts too.

FAS: Really cool intro, I very much picture it opening the concerts, although it's a bit strange to have an intro for a concert with the actual instruments on it, otherwise I like it, especially the MIDI section.

EI:Rocking on to this metal track! Very catchy chorus and THAT keyboard breakdown 

TLG: Really rushy. I love the chorus and the guitar solo! I don't like the ending, though, too simple.

EM: When Petrucci said something about this track having a spy movie vibe, he wasn't kidding! Amazing work by everyone but especially from Mike    dat solo!

BP: holy cow, this track is amazing. It's surely one of the highlights of the album. That chorus! And that finale! Amazing, one of the best tracks in various albums. 

BTV: epic intro, really enjoy it. And the riff that comes before the chorus, it's awesome, and I remember writing a similar riff, so it's even more amazing! Really like the whole song, especially the first verse, the chorus and the synth section.

STR: I think this is a grower, it's a pretty complex track, but I really like it. The chorus reminds me of BITS, and omg dat Petrucci solo  it's so raw! I really also enjoy the outro. RESTLEEES ANGEELS!

AFTR: Really love this song, it's gorgeous. The chorus is epic and the keyboard solo, my god.

IT: Awesome! A bit too complex, but it will grow on me for sure. Really love the ambient section and all the metal riffs in this awesome track. And James finally shows up! My god, where have you been, man? The ending is epic and so is the easter egg, one of the most beautiful things on the records.

Overall: awesome record! Some songs are a bit too overthetop, but they will grow on me for sure.

[Scard]

-) Where's the bass solo in Enigma Machine?! Or was it supposed to be in IT?

Absolutely stunning stuff....just incredible..I love Enigma Machine

The bass solo was a few seconds long

Mostly just transitional fills. Kinda disappointing.


Overall though, this is amazing. Really pumped right now.

[Nihil-Morari]

99% JP is using an 8 string on FAS

Probably a baritone guitar?

Baritone drop G sounds likely.

[eviljust]

99% JP is using an 8 string on FAS

Probably a baritone guitar?

This.

[Meatrose]

The orchestra is really nicely arranged, I really want to know if Jordan did the arranging too.
But wonderful, the moment it goes back to DT is great, you nearly forget you're listening to a DT record.

Nope, it was written by Jordan but Eren arranged it and conducted the string section in the studio.

[Nihil-Morari]

BTW the ending of IT really epic, super-grandiose, nearly Flower Kings-like, really lovely. Love the orchestra in the ending too.

[BlobVanDam]

The orchestra is really nicely arranged, I really want to know if Jordan did the arranging too.
But wonderful, the moment it goes back to DT is great, you nearly forget you're listening to a DT record.

Nope, it was written by Jordan but Eren arranged it and conducted the string section in the studio.

They both did a phenomenal job.

[SystematicThought]

The Bigger Picture has a lot of memorable moments. I love it!

[PixelDream]

Hahaha! Jordan is using a patch called 'Communing With Wales' from Omnisphere. I was just playing around with those patches yesterday, and I suddenly heard it pop up in the ambient section of IT.