Which DT songs/albums do you actively dislike?

[JiM-Xtreme]

For me, it always used to be pretty much any song off Falling Into Infinity. When I was first getting into this band, something about that album just didn't click with me at all. That was almost ten years ago... and now, all of a sudden, I find myself really enjoying that album in particular.

And since I realised this it got me thinking... I honestly don't know if there is any piece of music these guys have produced that I can honestly say I actually dislike! There are songs I like/love less than others, but that's it...

What about you guys? Are there any particular tracks that you instinctively skip? Albums that you like to pretend were never made?

[Outcrier]

Albums that you like to pretend were never made?

Black Clouds (maybe Systematic Chaos too).

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

I don't know that there are any DT songs I actually dislike. In The Name Of God comes close, but there are still a lot of good parts in it.

So, not really.

[Tom Bombadil]

Don't like most of SC and I dislike SDOIT the song. I definitely like most songs/albums.

[TheGreatPretender]

Absolutely none. I think DT's worst songs (or my least favorite ones) are at least 'pretty good'. The vast majority of their stuff is work of genius.

[JayOctavarium]

SDOIT (the song)


I listened to it a few days ago... still does nothing. I really can't find a specific section I really enjoy.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

The rage. It burns inside me.

[j]

As with every band, most of their albums have a song or two I don't like.  Some have more than others.

-J

[Tis BOOLsheet]

In general, I dislike Octavarium, Falling into Infinity, and Systematic Chaos. I believe that one of the best things to come out of Octavarium leading to BCSL was the negative backlash (especially against SC) those albums received from many long time fans, because without that, I don't know if an album like ADToE would be possible.

From Octavarium, I particularly dislike The Answer Lies Within, I Walk Beside You, Never Enough and Sacrificed Sons. I dislike all of Systematic Chaos except for INTPOE Pt.1, and maybe CM.

There are also a couple of other songs on other good albums that I really dislike. You Not Me is an obvious one. Lie is one of my most disliked DT songs. Most of it just sounds like a bad mainstream metal song with a vocal that is hard to bear. And of course, the gold medal goes to BMUBMD, which is to this day not only my most disliked DT tune, but a song I would be embarrassed about if I were to try to turn other people on to DT. I would prefer to listen to the new Chris Brown single Fine China over that song, because I believe it is a better constructed song and more enjoyable, with it's watered down melodies and auto-tuned vocal.

[TheAtliator]

Nothing I actively dislike.

Do nothing for me good or bad-
You Not Me,
Hollow Years,
maybe Burning my Soul (These are only because the record company stuck their filthy, arrogant hands in the way of geniuses)

I like, but not as much as the rest-
Wither and maybe Prophets of War

[theseoafs]

I dislike the majority of Systematic Chaos (except for PoW).  It's a weak album in general, and that isn't relative to DT's other works:  if a new up-and-coming band released SC as their debut, I wouldn't be interested in hearing any of their other material.

[Marion Crane]

Off hand, the first that immediately pop in my head are Scarred, Lifting Shadows and This is the Life

[Daso]

I can't seem to particularly admire SDOIT's Disc 2. It's pretty good, has some nice moments, but I don't find a highlight to it, perhaps because it was intended to be seen as a whole song, but at the same time it has too many changes and different moods and perspectives, so it doesn't sound like a song either.

Off ToT, I think This Dying Soul would be great if it wasn't for the rap-like fast parts. They are (in my opinion) horrible enough to bring the song down to only being "decent", even with it having the godly instrumental section. I actively dislike Honor Thy Father. From Octavarium, These Walls. It's not the band in auto-pilot, it is as if they were intending to do a blend between melodic/mellow, heavy, synth-oriented and with prominent string parts, and the blend came out as bad as it could. I can't seem to listen to Never Enough or Panic Attack, both sound over-processed and tiring. In Systematic Chaos I only dislike Prophets of War. It's not a "little" only, though. I think it's DT's worst song. BC&SL, I only think The Shattered Fortress is not as good as the others, while the others are about an 8/10. Finally, in ADToE, Build Me Up, Break Me Down.

Sorry if it came as insulting in any sense 

[Outcrier]

Don't know why people think SDOIT is just one song when, obviously, it isn't.

[Marion Crane]

I only ever listen to it as one song. It's the Braveheart of songs to me. Can't possibly listen to it from halfway through

[BlobVanDam]

Don't know why people think SDOIT is just one song when, obviously, it isn't.

I don't know why people argue SDOIT isn't one song when obviously it is.


Songs I actively dislike? Probably Lie, Scarred, SDV, BTS, Outcry, Status Seeker, LFAGA, TOWHTSTS, OAMOT. Anything else is a more passive dislike at best.

Albums I actively dislike? Only WDADU. Everything else has at least something great on it.
I'm trying not to be as active with my dislike of Awake and ADTOE, since I don't dislike them anywhere near as much as the impression I give. It mostly comes across that way because I think they're both very overrated albums, so I end up arguing the dislikes more than the likes. But WDADU is DT's only truly bad album.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

WDADU is awesome.

[BlobVanDam]

WDADU is awesome.

You're no longer allowed to give me crap for any of my opinions after this nugget of uber wrongness.



Apparently the spell checker has no problem with the word wrongness. I'll take it!

[Outcrier]

ACOS is one song, SDOIT DISC 2 is more like a concept album but in the form of a song so, saying SDOIT is a song is like calling the entire SFAM a song, isn't?
F*ck, even the band divided the sections of it.

[BlobVanDam]

ACOS is one song, SDOIT DISC 2 is more like a concept album but in the form of a song so, saying SDOIT is a song is like calling the entire SFAM a song, it isn't?
F*ck, even the band divided the sections of it.

The band divided it into sections because it's 42 friggin' minutes! And it is one track on Score. The album very clearly labels it as song 6 on the album. There is absolutely no mistaking that. It is one song, regardless of your opinion on the matter.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

There's really no hard and fast rules for what constitutes a song. So, if the band say it's a song, I'm inclined to agree with them.

[JayOctavarium]

OH LOOK IT'S THIS ARGUMENT AGAIN

[bosk1]

ACOS is one song, SDOIT DISC 2 is more like a concept album but in the form of a song so, saying SDOIT is a song is like calling the entire SFAM a song, it isn't?
F*ck, even the band divided the sections of it.

The band divided it into sections because it's 42 friggin' minutes! And it is one track on Score. The album very clearly labels it as song 6 on the album. There is absolutely no mistaking that. It is one song, regardless of your opinion on the matter.

This exactly.  It's one song because the band wrote it as such, end of story.  Let's not get the thread off topic by debating something that is completely irrelevant to the thread topic.

[Outcrier]

ACOS is one song, SDOIT DISC 2 is more like a concept album but in the form of a song so, saying SDOIT is a song is like calling the entire SFAM a song, it isn't?
F*ck, even the band divided the sections of it.

The band divided it into sections because it's 42 friggin' minutes! And it is one track on Score. The album very clearly labels it as song 6 on the album. There is absolutely no mistaking that. It is one song, regardless of your opinion on the matter.

Just because the band says so then.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

Yes. I'd imagine they would know.

[Dacling]

A Rite of Passage. Build Me Up Break, Break Me Down. Every single other Dream Theater song is good.

[Bolsters]

For me, songs I actively dislike:

- Pretty much all of WDADU
- Metropolis part 1 (my flak jacket is on)
- The Dark Eternal Night
- Prophets of War
- ITPOE (only because part 2 makes up the majority of the song)
- A Rite of Passage
- The Shattered Fortress
- The Best of Times

There's a few more duds in their discography for me, but as Blob put it, I'd catagorise them more as being passively disliked. I'm not going to bother listing all the songs I'm indifferent towards either, such as Anna Lee or The Ministry of Lost Souls. The songs above however...can't stand them.

[BlobVanDam]

I'm fine with out of the ordinary opinions (I pretty much define it!), but I have trouble understanding how a DT can can actively dislike Metropolis. It feels like such a neutral and representative DT song. Considering its status, I can understand if some dislike stems from thinking it's overrated, but I don't know what there is to really hate about it.

On the other hand, there are other DT songs that are more strongly styled towards the edge of heaviness, or progginess, or soft ballad, where I can easily see why people with different musical tastes don't enjoy them so much.


I'm not giving you a hard time for your opinion at all Bolsters, I just don't understand it!

[Outcrier]

Well Blob, it is just like this: My 4th favorite DT album is Awake so i can't understand why you don't like it so much as me, as your top 3 is the same as mine

EDIT: Ah, and now i'm in the "best DT album is SDOIT" camp too.

[?]

I don't dislike any DT album, but I feel SC is subpar at best. When it comes to songs, I can't find any enjoyment in the unholy trinity of Raw Dog, Where Are You Now? and The Dark Eternal Night.

[eviljust]

Dislike, well, don't know...but BC&SL is close to it. TCOT is os overrated for me.

[Bolsters]

I'm fine with out of the ordinary opinions (I pretty much define it!), but I have trouble understanding how a DT can can actively dislike Metropolis. It feels like such a neutral and representative DT song. Considering its status, I can understand if some dislike stems from thinking it's overrated, but I don't know what there is to really hate about it.

On the other hand, there are other DT songs that are more strongly styled towards the edge of heaviness, or progginess, or soft ballad, where I can easily see why people with different musical tastes don't enjoy them so much.

I'm not giving you a hard time for your opinion at all Bolsters, I just don't understand it!

Have you ever said to someone "I don't like _____" and when they ask you "Why?" you stare at them blankly, trying to quantify the reasons? That's me with Metropolis. If I were asked why I don't like any of the other songs on my list, I could write a couple of paragraphs for any one of them (though unnecessary given that the rest of my choices are pretty typical), but I have difficulty explaining it when it comes to Metropolis. I believe it has something to do with the erratic nature of it, though that's not normally something I have issue with (if anything, it's something I normally enjoy, especially in regards DT's music), and the vocal melodies, but I can't really explain what it is about either that it detracts from my ability to like this particular song.

It's not that I absolutely detest it, or think it's the worst thing ever...I don't even think it's the band's worst song, and when I listen to I&W as a whole I probably only skip it half of the time. But whenever I do listen to it, it grates on me, I simply don't want to listen to it. It's not as though I think it has no redeeming qualities either - I like the intro, and I like the instrumental section, I just don't care much for the rest.

[Onno]

None. You Not Me is my least favourite DT song and I don't dislike it. I don't skip it, I even still sing along to the verses when it comes on.

[Zydar]

The Ministry Of Lost Souls is the only one that comes to mind.

[Jaffa]

None for me.  When it comes to music, there are generally very few things I actively dislike.