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My thoughts on 'Dream Theater' (***SPOILERS***)

Started by cyberdrummer, August 15, 2013, 01:25:09 PM

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Jaffa

Quote from: cyberdrummer on August 19, 2013, 01:51:01 PM
Quote from: Jaffa on August 19, 2013, 12:01:25 PM
Do you happen to recall whether or not there were any spoken word samples used on this album? 

Pretty certain there weren't.

Thank you. 

hacko

You've mentioned how the album sounds rather heavy, but would you be able to describe your impression on how melodic it is as a whole?

ronrule

Have you listed the things that make this album different from all the others? Sorry if I missed it.

JDW89

Quote from: JDW89 on August 19, 2013, 01:57:48 AM
I saw earlier in the thread (at least I think) that you mentioned the album was heavy, like TOT heavy or something else entirely?
In case you missed it Cyber.

cyberdrummer

Quote from: cyberdrummer on August 16, 2013, 02:52:35 PM

The style of songs is varied. The song structures don't vary a great deal. I'd say it's as heavy as ToT, but not so much in terms of the riffage. It's a different kind of heaviness, brought about by its unrelenting nature, and in part by the loudness of the mix itself.




JDW89

Thanks. As far as TEI how does it rank in comparison to the other tracks? Better, worse, or in the middle?

cyberdrummer

Quote from: cyberdrummer on August 15, 2013, 02:32:02 PM
Quote from: VincentMDO on August 15, 2013, 02:29:11 PM
Tough question, but how you'd rank "The Enemy Inside" on the album? Bottom-tier? Is there any song that you'd classify inferior to TEI?

Well I'll rule out FAS in the rankings because of its length.

Preliminary rankings (very early to say really, and of course subject to change):

1. Illumination Theory
2. Surrender to Reason
3. Along for the Ride
4. The Looking Glass
5. Enigma Machine
6. The Bigger Picture
7. The Enemy Inside
8. Behind the Veil

Obviously bear in mind how much more familiar I am with TEI. These rankings mean pretty much nothing right now.

FourthHorseman

If TEI is really a bottom-two song on DT12, we will have a top-5 DT album  :)

bosk1

 :facepalm:

Quote from: cyberdrummer on August 19, 2013, 02:34:27 PM
Quote from: cyberdrummer on August 15, 2013, 02:32:02 PM
Quote from: VincentMDO on August 15, 2013, 02:29:11 PM
Tough question, but how you'd rank "The Enemy Inside" on the album? Bottom-tier? Is there any song that you'd classify inferior to TEI?

Well I'll rule out FAS in the rankings because of its length.

Preliminary rankings (very early to say really, and of course subject to change):

1. Illumination Theory
2. Surrender to Reason
3. Along for the Ride
4. The Looking Glass
5. Enigma Machine
6. The Bigger Picture
7. The Enemy Inside
8. Behind the Veil

Obviously bear in mind how much more familiar I am with TEI. These rankings mean pretty much nothing right now.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Tis BOOLsheet

I feel like I need to know more about these songs soon or I'm going to go nuts  :o



Mosh

How would you compare Behind The Veil and The Answer Lies Within?!?

LKap13

Quote from: bosk1 on August 19, 2013, 03:05:34 PM
:facepalm:


With all due respect, Bosk, FourthHorseman said "if TEI is a bottom 2 song on DT12, we will have a top 5 album." He didn't say "TEI is a bottom 2 song, so DT12 is a top 5 album." I think his comment is perfectly reasonable and shouldn't warrant a  :facepalm: .

Look, I understand that cyberdrummer's rankings are based on one listen and that he's had more of a chance to hear TEI. Yes, this may skew his rankings (in what direction, I don't even know?? :lol ) , but isn't the fact that he put TEI bottom 2, and not, say, top 2, worthy of a comment? I think it is! I had the same hopefully reaction as Horseman when I saw TEI was bottom 2, and I'm certain that you did too.

Leon

bosk1

Quote from: LKap13 on August 19, 2013, 08:27:29 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on August 19, 2013, 03:05:34 PM
:facepalm:


With all due respect, Bosk, FourthHorseman said "if TEI is a bottom 2 song on DT12, we will have a top 5 album." He didn't say "TEI is a bottom 2 song, so DT12 is a top 5 album." I think his comment is perfectly reasonable and shouldn't warrant a  :facepalm: .

Look, I understand that cyberdrummer's rankings are based on one listen and that he's had more of a chance to hear TEI. Yes, this may skew his rankings (in what direction, I don't even know?? :lol ) , but isn't the fact that he put TEI bottom 2, and not, say, top 2, worthy of a comment? I think it is! I had the same hopefully reaction as Horseman when I saw TEI was bottom 2, and I'm certain that you did too.

Leon

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:biggrin:

RMGadelha

You've described The Illumination Theory as having an epic ending and you've mentioned that the first movement is instrumental. Can you elaborate more on Paradoxe de la Lumiere Noire or is it hazy in your mind?

FourthHorseman

Quote from: bosk1 on August 19, 2013, 08:28:31 PM
Quote from: LKap13 on August 19, 2013, 08:27:29 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on August 19, 2013, 03:05:34 PM
:facepalm:


With all due respect, Bosk, FourthHorseman said "if TEI is a bottom 2 song on DT12, we will have a top 5 album." He didn't say "TEI is a bottom 2 song, so DT12 is a top 5 album." I think his comment is perfectly reasonable and shouldn't warrant a  :facepalm: .

Look, I understand that cyberdrummer's rankings are based on one listen and that he's had more of a chance to hear TEI. Yes, this may skew his rankings (in what direction, I don't even know?? :lol ) , but isn't the fact that he put TEI bottom 2, and not, say, top 2, worthy of a comment? I think it is! I had the same hopefully reaction as Horseman when I saw TEI was bottom 2, and I'm certain that you did too.

Leon

:facepalm:
























:biggrin:

Well of course it doesn't mean much. It's just surprising to me that he had TEI so low, especially because with DT, you have to give a song at least a few listens before you can truly appreciate it, and obviously he has only heard all of the other songs once.

aprilethereal

How is IT's intro like? More atmospheric and slowly fading in (like 8VM) or more like the ITPOE one (or completely different)?

noxon

It's exactly like Six Degrees (the suite) intro.

Meatrose

Hopefully I'll get to listen to Illumination Theory today.  :metal

The Stray Seed

Quote from: Meatrose on August 20, 2013, 02:36:43 AM
Hopefully I'll get to listen to Illumination Theory today.  :metal
Really? That's great!! I hope you'll share your thoughts with us! =)

TheGreatPretender


Meatrose

I was chosen by Sweden Rock Magazine to attend a listening party in Stockholm this afternoon but it seems we'll not be hearing the entire record, just some selected songs. I could be wrong though.

Zydar


wasteland

Great! And shame they didn't choose Zydar too! No Zydar? No party! :D

adastra

Quote from: Meatrose on August 20, 2013, 02:51:05 AM
I was chosen by Sweden Rock Magazine to attend a listening party in Stockholm this afternoon but it seems we'll not be hearing the entire record, just some selected songs. I could be wrong though.

U are so lucky  :o  Remember to review the shit out of those songs when you get back!

puppyonacid

Is the general level of cowbell need's more?

cyberdrummer

Quote from: Meatrose on August 20, 2013, 02:51:05 AM
I was chosen by Sweden Rock Magazine to attend a listening party in Stockholm this afternoon but it seems we'll not be hearing the entire record, just some selected songs. I could be wrong though.

Awesome, will be good to hear if you agree with my thoughts.

aprilethereal

Quote from: noxon on August 20, 2013, 02:31:54 AM
It's exactly like Six Degrees (the suite) intro.

Noooooooooooooooooooo :'(

How long is that part approximately?

noxon


Meatrose

I'll do my best to take some mental notes but I can't promise that they'll be very detailed. Knowing myself and how insanely hyped I am I'll probably be way too excited when the music starts playing to be able to really focus on the details.  :angel:

Zydar

Quote from: wasteland on August 20, 2013, 03:04:08 AM
Great! And shame they didn't choose Zydar too! No Zydar? No party! :D

Damn straight :zydar:

mikeyd23

Quote from: Meatrose on August 20, 2013, 03:33:26 AM
I'll do my best to take some mental notes but I can't promise that they'll be very detailed. Knowing myself and how insanely hyped I am I'll probably be way too excited when the music starts playing to be able to really focus on the details.  :angel:

Haha that's exactly how I would be! Have a great time and enjoy yourself!!

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Congrats Meatrose! Too bad there hasn't been any contest for Finnish fans :-[

Meatrose


wasteland

Damn, you. Making people from all around the world jealous!  :angry: