Worst DT Solos

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adastra

Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 15, 2013, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: Lucidity on July 15, 2013, 03:27:22 PM
Quote from: Basekick on July 15, 2013, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: ? on July 15, 2013, 06:50:13 AM

I think Jordan's experiments with different instruments and sounds are a double-edged sword: they can be really interesting and cool, but sometimes they are just awful (the Bebot solo in AROP, the horns in Beyond This Life).

I'm shocked it took 3 pages to mention the Beyond This Life horns solo.  I still don't understand how on earth someone hears that and goes "sweet solo!"

Jordan's solo in Beyond This Life is one of my all-time favorite DT solos  :sad:

Mine too. BTL is one of my favourite songs off SFAM because of that whole instrumental section. The sleazy keyboard solo is one of my all time favourites from DT (along with JP's Vegas one after that), and I love the wacky drowsy horns and carnival unison. That's the stuff I love.

Yeah, I think so too . BTL keys solo is great!

BlobVanDam

Don't get me wrong, I get that it's not for everyone, but that's the kind of stuff I love from DT. I find those sections to be fun, memorable, and unique, and it's part of what hooked me on DT in the first place.

ZKX-2099

Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 15, 2013, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: Lucidity on July 15, 2013, 03:27:22 PM
Quote from: Basekick on July 15, 2013, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: ? on July 15, 2013, 06:50:13 AM

I think Jordan's experiments with different instruments and sounds are a double-edged sword: they can be really interesting and cool, but sometimes they are just awful (the Bebot solo in AROP, the horns in Beyond This Life).

I'm shocked it took 3 pages to mention the Beyond This Life horns solo.  I still don't understand how on earth someone hears that and goes "sweet solo!"

Jordan's solo in Beyond This Life is one of my all-time favorite DT solos  :sad:

Mine too. BTL is one of my favourite songs off SFAM because of that whole instrumental section. The sleazy keyboard solo is one of my all time favourites from DT (along with JP's Vegas one after that), and I love the wacky drowsy horns and carnival unison. That's the stuff I love.

2nded.

wolven74

Why do I get the feeling that if Myung ever did a solo we'd all be like  :omg: :omg: :omg: :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy and every other solo ever done would be on this list??

Mosh

I dunno, Myung's Metropolis solo is really cool. His Dance Of Eternity solo is not.

LBC.

Quote from: Mosh on July 15, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
I dunno, Myung's Metropolis solo is really cool. His Dance Of Eternity solo is not.

I disagree. Both are f...ing cool.

Mankind needs more Myungness.

wolven74

I think Metropolis I is more concise and clean, but damn..... Dance has some fuckin balls for a bass solo.

?

Quote from: Basekick on July 15, 2013, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: ? on July 15, 2013, 06:50:13 AM
I think Jordan's experiments with different instruments and sounds are a double-edged sword: they can be really interesting and cool, but sometimes they are just awful (the Bebot solo in AROP, the horns in Beyond This Life).
I'm shocked it took 3 pages to mention the Beyond This Life horns solo.  I still don't understand how on earth someone hears that and goes "sweet solo!"
Oh, I would've mentioned it on the first page if I had considered it a solo! I just can't stand that section at all...

Lucidity

Quote from: Mosh on July 15, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
I dunno, Myung's Metropolis solo is really cool. His Dance Of Eternity solo is not.

I agree.

commanderbob

The Beyond This Life Trumpet-y-ness-ish solo :tdwn

The Bebot solo  :tdwn

Misunderstood ending  :tdwn

Other than that I'm very pleased :tup

Lucien

Quote from: wolven74 on July 15, 2013, 11:11:04 PM
I think Metropolis I is more concise and clean, but damn..... Dance has some fuckin balls for a bass solo.

serrano

JP's The Best of Times solo.




















The fact that i probably will never see it being performed live  :'(

Podaar

Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 15, 2013, 10:22:15 PM
Don't get me wrong, I get that it's not for everyone, but that's the kind of stuff I love from DT. I find those sections to be fun, memorable, and unique, and it's part of what hooked me on DT in the first place.

:tup

Ditto.

Ruba

Quote from: serrano on July 17, 2013, 07:24:27 AM
JP's The Best of Times solo.




















The fact that i probably will never see it being performed live  :'(

Umm... is it one of your favourite solos then?

mrjazzguitar

Quote from: adastra on July 09, 2013, 10:11:33 PM
Keyboard solo from A Rite Of Passage!
Worst Dream theater solo and propably the worst keyboard solo I've ever heard  :D

first thing that came to mind when I saw the thread title haha

wolfking

WTF, Myungs Dance of Eternity solo is legit!

Sycsa

Quote from: serrano on July 17, 2013, 07:24:27 AM
JP's The Best of Times solo.




















The fact that i probably will never see it being performed live  :'(

Mladen

Quote from: aXygnus on July 10, 2013, 05:57:50 PM
Quote from: a51502112 on July 10, 2013, 01:50:41 PM
The Ministry of Lost Souls... Just stop playing the same thing over and over, and end this terrible song already!


Been lurking for a long long time now, but I had to login just to comment on this. Wut? I think it's just an emotional climax to the song, and it works out beautifully for me... Hell, the whole song is in the top 5, maybe even top 3 for me. Oh well.
This.

Quote from: Basekick on July 15, 2013, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: ? on July 15, 2013, 06:50:13 AM

I think Jordan's experiments with different instruments and sounds are a double-edged sword: they can be really interesting and cool, but sometimes they are just awful (the Bebot solo in AROP, the horns in Beyond This Life).

I'm shocked it took 3 pages to mention the Beyond This Life horns solo.  I still don't understand how on earth someone hears that and goes "sweet solo!"
Ooh, that's one sweet solo.  :D  :biggrin:

Anyway, if I had to pick my least favorite DT solo, there's a rather long one in the middle of The Shattered fortress that doesn't do a whole lot for me, so that one gets my vote.

wolven74

I've never liked Jordan's continuum solo at the end of TDEN... not sure why, it just has no structure to it. Ad-libbing isn't always the best way to go.

wolfking

Quote from: wolven74 on July 19, 2013, 03:38:00 AM
I've never liked Jordan's continuum solo at the end of TDEN... not sure why, it just has no structure to it. Ad-libbing isn't always the best way to go.

I agree, I think he ruins the atmosphere and mood of that heavy ass riff.

AngelBack

Quote from: serrano on July 17, 2013, 07:24:27 AM
JP's The Best of Times solo.




















The fact that i probably will never see it being performed live  :'(


Sad that we may never see this live.  It is just beautiful.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: wolfking on July 19, 2013, 04:14:35 PM
Quote from: wolven74 on July 19, 2013, 03:38:00 AM
I've never liked Jordan's continuum solo at the end of TDEN... not sure why, it just has no structure to it. Ad-libbing isn't always the best way to go.

I agree, I think he ruins the atmosphere and mood of that heavy ass riff.

I just don't understand.


I just don't understand.

It fits perfectly with the mood of the riff.

fibreoptix

Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 19, 2013, 11:17:27 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 19, 2013, 04:14:35 PM
Quote from: wolven74 on July 19, 2013, 03:38:00 AM
I've never liked Jordan's continuum solo at the end of TDEN... not sure why, it just has no structure to it. Ad-libbing isn't always the best way to go.

I agree, I think he ruins the atmosphere and mood of that heavy ass riff.

I just don't understand.


I just don't understand.

It fits perfectly with the mood of the riff.

Got to agree on this one. Best decision Jordan could have made for the song. Totally appropriate and a bit more interesting than one of his run of the mill lead tones he was using at the time.

SnakeEyes

Basically, every guitar solo, keyboard solo and guitar/ keyboard unison that has appeared on a DT album in that order (or, in the order of keys-guitar-unison) since SFAM.  They have ALL been redundant and terrible. 

edit

Before the flames begin, read what I said carefully.  I didn't say every SOLO since SFAM, I said every solo that has come before a unison.  Both guitar and keys.  Usually terrible. 

Lucidity

Quote from: SnakeEyes on July 21, 2013, 03:35:03 PM
Basically, every guitar solo, keyboard solo and guitar/ keyboard unison that has appeared on a DT album in that order (or, in the order of keys-guitar-unison) since SFAM.  They have ALL been redundant and terrible. 

edit

Before the flames begin, read what I said carefully.  I didn't say every SOLO since SFAM, I said every solo that has come before a unison.  Both guitar and keys.  Usually terrible.

Do you have any specific examples?

Sycsa

Quote from: SnakeEyes on July 21, 2013, 03:35:03 PM
Basically, every guitar solo, keyboard solo and guitar/ keyboard unison that has appeared on a DT album in that order (or, in the order of keys-guitar-unison) since SFAM.  They have ALL been redundant and terrible. 

edit

Before the flames begin, read what I said carefully.  I didn't say every SOLO since SFAM, I said every solo that has come before a unison.  Both guitar and keys.  Usually terrible.
Like the Blind Faith solo section?  :yeahright

wolven74

Quote from: Sycsa on July 22, 2013, 02:07:35 AM
Quote from: SnakeEyes on July 21, 2013, 03:35:03 PM
Basically, every guitar solo, keyboard solo and guitar/ keyboard unison that has appeared on a DT album in that order (or, in the order of keys-guitar-unison) since SFAM.  They have ALL been redundant and terrible. 

edit

Before the flames begin, read what I said carefully.  I didn't say every SOLO since SFAM, I said every solo that has come before a unison.  Both guitar and keys.  Usually terrible.
Like the Blind Faith solo section?  :yeahright

Please tell me you're joking. The whole instrumental section of blind faith is killer. Unison is my favorite part of the whole song.

PwnsomeWin

As mentioned before, the stupid keyboard thing at the end of A Rite Of Passage sucks IMO.

Sycsa

Quote from: wolven74 on July 23, 2013, 01:03:55 AM
Quote from: Sycsa on July 22, 2013, 02:07:35 AM
Quote from: SnakeEyes on July 21, 2013, 03:35:03 PM
Basically, every guitar solo, keyboard solo and guitar/ keyboard unison that has appeared on a DT album in that order (or, in the order of keys-guitar-unison) since SFAM.  They have ALL been redundant and terrible. 

edit

Before the flames begin, read what I said carefully.  I didn't say every SOLO since SFAM, I said every solo that has come before a unison.  Both guitar and keys.  Usually terrible.
Like the Blind Faith solo section?  :yeahright

Please tell me you're joking. The whole instrumental section of blind faith is killer. Unison is my favorite part of the whole song.
Who, me? Blind Faith is one of my favorites as well (easily top 10 material), but the op apparently labeled it as "redundant and terrible", hence my :yeahright(yeahright) emoticon reaction.

Lucidity

Almost no guitar solos mentioned in this thread, so I figured I'd add that I don't like JP's solo in The Dark Eternal Night. I also don't like JMX's solo in The Dance of Eternity  :-X

The Boomr

Quote from: a51502112 on July 10, 2013, 01:50:41 PM
The Ministry of Lost Souls... Just stop playing the same thing over and over, and end this terrible song already!

Leave. Leave and never come back. :tdwn

Lucien

Quote from: The Boomr on July 24, 2013, 02:14:28 PM
Quote from: a51502112 on July 10, 2013, 01:50:41 PM
The Ministry of Lost Souls... Just stop playing the same thing over and over, and end this terrible song already!

Leave. Leave and never come back. :tdwn

That's pretty harsh...  :\

The Boomr

Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 19, 2013, 11:17:27 PM
Quote from: wolfking on July 19, 2013, 04:14:35 PM
Quote from: wolven74 on July 19, 2013, 03:38:00 AM
I've never liked Jordan's continuum solo at the end of TDEN... not sure why, it just has no structure to it. Ad-libbing isn't always the best way to go.

I agree, I think he ruins the atmosphere and mood of that heavy ass riff.

I just don't understand.


I just don't understand.

It fits perfectly with the mood of the riff.

:tup loving that TCOT reference ^_^

The Boomr

Quote from: Mosh on July 15, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
I dunno, Myung's Metropolis solo is really cool. His Dance Of Eternity solo is not.

Ummmmm sir, please explain yourself? The Dance solo is AMAZING. I actually do get a little peeved every time I listen though because I personally think it was mixed Terribly and you can thus you can barely hear what he's doing unless you have the perfect audiophile setup...I could see that as being a reason to not like the solo, if you can't quite hear what's going on. But it's amazing. Shame on you.

The Boomr

Quote from: Lucien on July 24, 2013, 02:19:54 PM
That's pretty harsh...  :\

Sorry....The song is just one of my all time favorites and for someone to not see the absolute beauty in the end (and the rest!) of the song is mind-bottling (you know, like when your mind's in a bottle). And to go so far as to say it's actually a terrible song is a complete injustice. Admittedly I am a trained musician and this makes the song even better for me as the structure behind the chords in the end and the continuous modulations is BRILLIANT. But even for a casual music listener....I can't understand how this song could be viewed as terrible.