Dream Theater self titled album discussion - [SPOILER FREE DISCUSSION ONLY]

[Moor]

Maybe we should wait for a confirmation to show this review.

Which review..?

He also needs an authorization to tell you which review...

[Petruccinator12]

Maybe we should wait for a confirmation to show this review.

Which review..?

He also needs an authorization to tell you which review...

Oh, come on... -.-

[wolven74]

Here's my theory on why this thread is getting confusing/rediculous.

Someone will post an article with false information. People will discuss for a few posts about whether the post with the false information is legit and or reliable. Then it will be confirmed that it's not legit or reliable, and the post will be taken down. BUT the ensuing chaotic discussion of said false information will NOT be deleted. This causes much confusion for those who come in late to the discussion. Perhaps it is just me.

[Nearmyth]

If these times ARE true, I'd just like to point out that this is the first album since WDADU without a 10-19 minute song.

[Petruccinator12]

If these times ARE true, I'd just like to point out that this is the first album since WDADU without a 10-19 minute song.

Well, but at least one over 20 minutes But which set of song lengths are you referring to now..?

[SuperTaco]

From Page 88:

1. False Awakening Suite – 2:42
2. The Enemy Inside – 6:17
3. The Looking Glass – 4:53
4. Enigma Machine – 6:01
5. The Bigger Picture – 7:40
6. Behind The Veil – 6:52
7. Surrender To Reason – 6:34
8. Along For The Ride – 4:45
9. Illumination Theory – 22:17

I was hoping for FAS to be longer, but since it is a sub-3 minute instrumental, it'll probably pack a big punch. It's a tired comparison, but if it has a similar impact as Overture 1928 did, I'll be quite happy.

[Petruccinator12]

Well...this time around no ones seems to be bothered by the wikipedia edit.....

[ibosmiley]

I'm cool with those song lengths if they are actually true.  A lot of shorter songs... a very cool thing.  A suite under 3 minutes... I dig that... not what you expect... rather... progressive.

[Petruccinator12]

I'm cool with those song lengths if they are actually true.  A lot of shorter songs... a very cool thing.  A suite under 3 minutes... I dig that... not what you expect... rather... progressive.

I like them as well! The only I'd change: At least one more song above the 10-minute mark, preferably FAS =)

[theseoafs]

I was hoping for FAS to be longer, but since it is a sub-3 minute instrumental, it'll probably pack a big punch. It's a tired comparison, but if it has a similar impact as Overture 1928 did, I'll be quite happy.

Doubt it, honestly.  They said FAS would be a replacement for their usual concert openers, which are usually intro clips from movie soundtracks.  Those clips are usually more atmospheric and suspenseful than high-energy like Overture 1928.

[wolven74]

Why is the epic always at the end? 

[JayOctavarium]

Would you rather it be in the beginning?

[BlobVanDam]

Why is the epic always at the end? 

Because it's a climactic ending, and it's a bit hard to follow it up. It doesn't have to be at the end, but it works well at the end.

[Moor]

The idea is that usually the main course is served in the middle of the meal, but since this epic contains chocolate as we already know, it will be served as a dessert 

[Lucien]

The idea is that usually the main course is served in the middle of the meal, but since this epic contains chocolate as we already know, it will be served as a dessert 

A very large dessert 

[JayOctavarium]

The idea is that usually the main course is served in the middle of the meal, but since this epic contains chocolate as we already know, it will be served as a dessert 

A very large dessert 

The best kind!

[Moor]

The idea is that usually the main course is served in the middle of the meal, but since this epic contains chocolate as we already know, it will be served as a dessert 

A very large dessert 

The best kind!

Come and have a taste, a rare dessert
All the finest chocolates improve with age

[dongringo]

I hate chocolate cake. Why couldn't he have likened the guitar tone to a cheese enchilada?

[JayOctavarium]

I hate chocolate cake. Why couldn't he have likened the guitar tone to a cheese enchilada?

You want the new album to give me gas?

[Petruccinator12]

I hate chocolate cake. Why couldn't he have likened the guitar tone to a cheese enchilada?

...you hate chocolate cake? How's that possible?

[Lucien]

I hate chocolate cake. Why couldn't he have likened the guitar tone to a cheese enchilada?

...you hate chocolate cake? How's that possible?

I know at least two people who despise chocolate in general.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

I hate chocolate cake. Why couldn't he have likened the guitar tone to a cheese enchilada?

Why do you hate America?

[JayOctavarium]

I hate chocolate cake. Why couldn't he have likened the guitar tone to a cheese enchilada?

Why do you hate America?

Communist

[dongringo]

 The food isn't as good in America. Viva Mexico! 

[Petruccinator12]

Seemingly, the current title lengths are correct............?!

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

I hate chocolate cake. Why couldn't he have likened the guitar tone to a cheese enchilada?

Why do you hate America?

Communist

no u

Seemingly, the current title lengths are correct............?!

Yeah, noxon basically confirmed them.

[Lucien]

It seems like it. I just can't wait to hear Illumination Theory.

Ooh, let's talk about IT. 

Paradoxe de la Lumiere Noire (Paradox of the Black Light) is the introduction, and it's name makes me think it will be like the Octavarium intro, perhaps with more of the band involved.

[JayOctavarium]

I hate chocolate cake. Why couldn't he have likened the guitar tone to a cheese enchilada?

Why do you hate America?

Communist

no u

Nuh uh.



Ok so I wet my lips with a bunch of DT, JLB and PT recently... but nothing can kill my thirst for this album. Hopefully something (single? reviews? interviews? more press photos? ANYTHING) comes... soon

[Madman Shepherd]

I hate chocolate cake. Why couldn't he have likened the guitar tone to a cheese enchilada?

...you hate chocolate cake? How's that possible?

Lactose intolerance.  It is no laughing matter. 

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

It seems like it. I just can't wait to hear Illumination Theory.

Ooh, let's talk about IT. 

Paradoxe de la Lumiere Noire (Paradox of the Black Light) is the introduction, and it's name makes me think it will be like the Octavarium intro, perhaps with more of the band involved.

I'm all for Jordan having long, spacey solos.

[Sketchy]

The food isn't as good in America. Viva Mexico! 

Aah, so you're a fan of the proper xocolatl then.

[Petruccinator12]

It seems like it. I just can't wait to hear Illumination Theory.

Ooh, let's talk about IT. 

Paradoxe de la Lumiere Noire (Paradox of the Black Light) is the introduction, and it's name makes me think it will be like the Octavarium intro, perhaps with more of the band involved.

I don't have the progress chart before my eyes...but one song was called "Yarrgh". This is FAS then, right? But what about the easter egg? What about the other 9 songs on the board? :/ Am I missing out on something?
I'd agree that paradoxe d.l.l.n. sounds like some kind of instrumental intro =)

[Petruccinator12]

I add: Yes, I agree that Noxon indirectly confirmed the song lengths

[theseoafs]

Paradoxe de la Lumiere Noire (Paradox of the Black Light) is the introduction, and it's name makes me think it will be like the Octavarium intro, perhaps with more of the band involved.

Actually, the structure of the album seems very 8V-ish, now that I think of it.  Mostly shorter songs concluded by a 20+ minute epic.

[Petruccinator12]

Paradoxe de la Lumiere Noire (Paradox of the Black Light) is the introduction, and it's name makes me think it will be like the Octavarium intro, perhaps with more of the band involved.

Actually, the structure of the album seems very 8V-ish, now that I think of it.  Mostly shorter songs concluded by a 20+ minute epic.

I'd say so too that it seems to have an Octavarium structure......I cannot tell for sure if I like it though...just one song above the 10-minute mark :/ I'd hoped there would be at least two....