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Train of Thought is my favorite DT album

Started by Polis, May 27, 2013, 10:56:04 AM

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TheGreatPretender

The only reason I would ever want to wash any DT album out of my memories is so that I could hear them for the first time again.

DebraKadabra

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on June 09, 2013, 05:29:20 PM
Is anyone else kind of depressed by the idea that it's been 10 years already since this album came out?

No...
Look at all us freaks cluttering your city streets
Still scalping their ticket-less applause
Spun monkeys on the railroad track, take me to the caine field; I walk along pick my spiderbite
Basically Kyoko Kirigiri

dparrott

Quote from: KevShmev on June 03, 2013, 03:52:06 PM
Well, Disappear is the first CD closer, so while it is not the album closer, it is the first disc closer, and I am sure that is looked at as important as well, but we'll leave that aside for a minute and just focus on Awake....

I totally disagree that Space Dye Vest feels tacked on.  It is like the coda after the climax of Scarred.  Plus, with the SDV melody being recurring, first heard in The Mirror, like I said before, it gives "Side 2" that cohesive feeling.  What do you think a better running order would have been for the final five songs, assuming they are the same five (and no being a wiseass and saying, "Get rid of Space Dye Vest," or anything like that :lol). Take those five songs and come up with a better running order.  Swapping Scarred and Space Dye Vest would not work, as you would then have Lifting Shadows... and SDV back-to-back, and I don't think two songs in a row like that would help the flow.  And kickoff off Side 2 with one of the mellow songs I don't think would work either, as it would immediately be following up the acoustic Silent Man (and going from the acoustic Silent Man straight into the metal of The Mirror is a great dynamic shift).

If I remember correctly, Innocence Faded was between LSOAD and SDV on the cassette.  It seems out of place to me being track 3 on the CD, esp because I'm not a big fan of the song.  CIAW -> Eroto is awesome. 

snowdog

Quote from: dparrott on June 11, 2013, 05:43:21 PM
Quote from: KevShmev on June 03, 2013, 03:52:06 PM
Well, Disappear is the first CD closer, so while it is not the album closer, it is the first disc closer, and I am sure that is looked at as important as well, but we'll leave that aside for a minute and just focus on Awake....

I totally disagree that Space Dye Vest feels tacked on.  It is like the coda after the climax of Scarred.  Plus, with the SDV melody being recurring, first heard in The Mirror, like I said before, it gives "Side 2" that cohesive feeling.  What do you think a better running order would have been for the final five songs, assuming they are the same five (and no being a wiseass and saying, "Get rid of Space Dye Vest," or anything like that :lol). Take those five songs and come up with a better running order.  Swapping Scarred and Space Dye Vest would not work, as you would then have Lifting Shadows... and SDV back-to-back, and I don't think two songs in a row like that would help the flow.  And kickoff off Side 2 with one of the mellow songs I don't think would work either, as it would immediately be following up the acoustic Silent Man (and going from the acoustic Silent Man straight into the metal of The Mirror is a great dynamic shift).

If I remember correctly, Innocence Faded was between LSOAD and SDV on the cassette.  It seems out of place to me being track 3 on the CD, esp because I'm not a big fan of the song.  CIAW -> Eroto is awesome.
The cassette also didn't have Scarred.  Damn shame.

KevShmev

And I doubt the band had much say-so over the running order on the cassette, and either way, I doubt many people bought the cassette anyway (as it was nearly dead by that point).

Podaar

Quote from: KevShmev on June 12, 2013, 09:43:09 AM
And I doubt the band had much say-so over the running order on the cassette, and either way, I doubt many people bought the cassette anyway (as it was nearly dead by that point).

I did :blush