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Started by KevShmev, July 04, 2012, 11:56:13 AM

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KevShmev

This always seems to be the forgotten song when discussing Scenes from a Memory, and I rarely see it mentioned among favorites from this album or in most of the top 50s, but this is one damn fine song; definitely one of DT's best slower songs to date!  JLB's vocal performance in this song is absolutely fantastic, and overall this song is just a melodic gem.  And last but not least, John Myung's fretless bass work in this tune is :hefdaddy :hefdaddy. :tup :tup

TheGreatPretender

My favorite ballad by DT (I think). It's simply beautiful. And the lyrics could even be applied to a broader scope than just the story of the concept album. Definitely deserves more credit than it gets. And as much as I like the saxophone outro on the alternate version, I still prefer JLB's falsetto outro on the album.

Scorpion

Great song. I really like how soothing it is, and both the guitar and the bass work are tremendous.

BlobVanDam

Not one of my favourites from the album (nor by DT), but in the context of the album it works perfectly. JLB's vocals are the highlight, and showcase a different style of vibrato to usual, plus the falsettos, plus some great melodies. I used to always skip it, and it's still not a song I would listen to on its own, but it fits in well when listening to the album as a whole (which is the only way I ever listen to it anyway).

MrBoom_shack-a-lack

Yeah i love this song! The beautiful sax solo on the alternate version always gets me in a good mood!  :)

wasteland

Not the best song of SFAM, but a good one indeed. It's especially tasty to me the mellow solos that have been added at the end of the song on stage in 2004. :)

YtseJamittaja

I like to sing this song while listening to it.  :)

KevShmev

Quote from: wasteland on July 04, 2012, 12:18:53 PM
  It's especially tasty to me the mellow solos that have been added at the end of the song on stage in 2004. :)

That's the one that I really wish DT wouldn't do.  Mellow songs like Surrounded and Through Her Eyes are awesome as is, and to "wank them up" live by adding any solos, mellow or showy, takes a bit away from the awesome vibe of those songs.  Those songs prove that DT can write great songs without showing off or soloing, yet they feel the need to add those elements to those songs when playing them live.  They even did it with Through Her Eyes on the M:2000 tour by having that needless JP solo precede the song.

wasteland

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Quote from: KevShmev on July 04, 2012, 12:36:23 PM
Quote from: wasteland on July 04, 2012, 12:18:53 PM
  It's especially tasty to me the mellow solos that have been added at the end of the song on stage in 2004. :)

That's the one that I really wish DT wouldn't do.  Mellow songs like Surrounded and Through Her Eyes are awesome as is, and to "wank them up" live by adding any solos, mellow or showy, takes a bit away from the awesome vibe of those songs.  Those songs prove that DT can write great songs without showing off or soloing, yet they feel the need to add those elements to those songs when playing them live.  They even did it with Through Her Eyes on the M:2000 tour by having that needless JP solo precede the song.

I didn't like the 2000 solo, it was out of place, considering the song that was being played. The 2004 solos were much better, though. No shredding, just a fitting coda by Jordan or John (or both). I'll see if I can provide you some example  :tup

ETA: Here it  is, the best one I know! Bologna 2004. https://uploading.com/files/get/ca65a7ee/14%2BThrough%2Bher%2Beyes.mp3

KevShmev

I'll see about maybe checking that out. ;)

Priest of Syrinx

Quote from: KevShmev on July 04, 2012, 12:36:23 PM
That's the one that I really wish DT wouldn't do.  Mellow songs like Surrounded and Through Her Eyes are awesome as is, and to "wank them up" live by adding any solos, mellow or showy, takes a bit away from the awesome vibe of those songs.  Those songs prove that DT can write great songs without showing off or soloing, yet they feel the need to add those elements to those songs when playing them live.  They even did it with Through Her Eyes on the M:2000 tour by having that needless JP solo precede the song.

How about the solo in Hollow Years on Live At Budokan?

YtseJamittaja

Quote from: wasteland on July 04, 2012, 12:41:24 PM
Quote from: KevShmev on July 04, 2012, 12:36:23 PM
Quote from: wasteland on July 04, 2012, 12:18:53 PM
  It's especially tasty to me the mellow solos that have been added at the end of the song on stage in 2004. :)

That's the one that I really wish DT wouldn't do.  Mellow songs like Surrounded and Through Her Eyes are awesome as is, and to "wank them up" live by adding any solos, mellow or showy, takes a bit away from the awesome vibe of those songs.  Those songs prove that DT can write great songs without showing off or soloing, yet they feel the need to add those elements to those songs when playing them live.  They even did it with Through Her Eyes on the M:2000 tour by having that needless JP solo precede the song.

I didn't like the 2000 solo, it was out of place, considering the song that was being played. The 2004 solos were much better, though. No shredding, just a fitting coda by Jordan or John (or both). I'll see if I can provide you some example  :tup

ETA: Here it  is, the best one I know! Bologna 2004. https://uploading.com/files/get/ca65a7ee/14%2BThrough%2Bher%2Beyes.mp3

Oh, this was, what I call a great performance.

MoraWintersoul

I love everything about this song. I love the wonderful lyrics - they have brought tears into my eyes more than once, love the tone, love the way JLB brings variation to the simple vocal melodies, love his falsetto outro, love the simplicity of the guitar soloing. If I cared enough about people who claim Dream Theater are wankers, I'd carry this song on some player with me, like some secret weapon, and shove it in the face of anyone who says so.

TAC

Quote from: KevShmev on July 04, 2012, 11:56:13 AM
This always seems to be the forgotten song when discussing Scenes from a Memory, and I rarely see it mentioned among favorites from this album or in most of the top 50s, but this is one damn fine song; definitely one of DT's best slower songs to date!  JLB's vocal performance in this song is absolutely fantastic, and overall this song is just a melodic gem.  And last but not least, John Myung's fretless bass work in this tune is :hefdaddy :hefdaddy. :tup :tup
Great song. I would love to see them bring this back. It definitely stands on its own.
The LSFNY version is incredible.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

KevShmev

Quote from: Priest of Syrinx on July 04, 2012, 10:05:26 PM
Quote from: KevShmev on July 04, 2012, 12:36:23 PM
That's the one that I really wish DT wouldn't do.  Mellow songs like Surrounded and Through Her Eyes are awesome as is, and to "wank them up" live by adding any solos, mellow or showy, takes a bit away from the awesome vibe of those songs.  Those songs prove that DT can write great songs without showing off or soloing, yet they feel the need to add those elements to those songs when playing them live.  They even did it with Through Her Eyes on the M:2000 tour by having that needless JP solo precede the song.

How about the solo in Hollow Years on Live At Budokan?

Pass.  I've always thought that sounded wildly out of place as well.  In a vacuum, the solo is mostly good, but it just doesn't sound right for that song.

Pelata

Quote from: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 04, 2012, 12:15:22 PM
Yeah i love this song! The beautiful sax solo on the alternate version always gets me in a good mood!  :)

I like the alternate version as well...great song!

TheGreatPretender

Quote from: YtseJamittaja on July 04, 2012, 12:33:43 PM
I like to sing this song while listening to it.  :)
I like to sing EVERY DT song while listening to it.  :biggrin:

Onno


senecadawg2

Quote from: LithoJazzoSphere on November 28, 2024, 04:50:14 PMThe senecadawg who won 11 roulettes is dead and gone.  He is now diogenesdawg2. 

TAC

Quote from: KevShmev on July 05, 2012, 07:58:38 AM
Quote from: Priest of Syrinx on July 04, 2012, 10:05:26 PM
Quote from: KevShmev on July 04, 2012, 12:36:23 PM
That's the one that I really wish DT wouldn't do.  Mellow songs like Surrounded and Through Her Eyes are awesome as is, and to "wank them up" live by adding any solos, mellow or showy, takes a bit away from the awesome vibe of those songs.  Those songs prove that DT can write great songs without showing off or soloing, yet they feel the need to add those elements to those songs when playing them live.  They even did it with Through Her Eyes on the M:2000 tour by having that needless JP solo precede the song.

How about the solo in Hollow Years on Live At Budokan?

Pass.  I've always thought that sounded wildly out of place as well.  In a vacuum, the solo is mostly good, but it just doesn't sound right for that song.
Wow. The FII version would not make my Top 50, but the LaB version is easily Top 15.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

wasteland

Quote from: TAC on July 07, 2012, 09:16:33 AM
Wow. The FII version would not make my Top 50, but the LaB version is easily Top 15.

And to say that the LIB Hollow Years wasn't anywhere close to the best Hollow Years of the tour! Anyway, I essentially agree with you (as always).

TAC

Quote from: wasteland on July 07, 2012, 10:10:05 AM
Quote from: TAC on July 07, 2012, 09:16:33 AM
Wow. The FII version would not make my Top 50, but the LaB version is easily Top 15.

And to say that the LIB Hollow Years wasn't anywhere close to the best Hollow Years of the tour! Anyway, I essentially agree with you (as always).
Which one would you say? I have always felt that the LaB one was the most refined.  I really haven't studied the numerous other version that I have from the tour, but LaB just feels perfect.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

wasteland

Quote from: TAC on July 07, 2012, 10:24:56 AM
Quote from: wasteland on July 07, 2012, 10:10:05 AM
Quote from: TAC on July 07, 2012, 09:16:33 AM
Wow. The FII version would not make my Top 50, but the LaB version is easily Top 15.

And to say that the LIB Hollow Years wasn't anywhere close to the best Hollow Years of the tour! Anyway, I essentially agree with you (as always).
Which one would you say? I have always felt that the LaB one was the most refined.  I really haven't studied the numerous other version that I have from the tour, but LaB just feels perfect.

I can't really name a single performance, but I feel that at least Madrid, NY, Boston and Osaka (1st night) were quite superior to LAB. And this without even considering LA, that I still need to hunt down, as you know.

?

Beautiful song although not among my favorites and also the only DT song I remember hearing on the radio.

Ħ

I like THE. James' performance is great as you said, Kev, and I really appreciate the melodic motif that showed up earlier in Through My Words and later in The Spirit Carries On.

tartarus250

my favorite dt ballad just beautiful  :yarr :hefdaddy

cyberdrummer

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on July 04, 2012, 11:59:21 AM
And the lyrics could even be applied to a broader scope than just the story of the concept album. Definitely deserves more credit than it gets.

Just been listening to SFAM again, and this pretty much sums it up for me.

wasteland

I just made this youtube video. Be sure to check the ending solo, the best one I've ever heard for the song (it's the one I suggested KS to listen, months ago).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zun0tdmS7J8

:tup

cyberdrummer


Zook

Great song. It gets too much hate. All DT ballads do.

Bolsters

I've always loved this song, and also never fully understood why it wasn't more popular among fans. I mean, I know Dream Theater is a "progressive metal" band and they do fantastic prog rock stuff and write great metal songs aswell, I know that's what they are about. But one of the great things about the band was that they can write songs like The Dance of Eternity but they don't make all of their music about highly technical playing. I've always said that they don't let the fact they can write highly technical songs like that and play to that calibre get in the way of good ol' fashioned songwriting. This track is a perfect example of that.

I'm always disappointed at live shows though, when a song like this or The Spirit Carries On or I Walk Beside you starts to be played...at least half of the crowd takes these songs as an opportunity to go to the bathroom.
Bolsters™

wasteland

Quote from: Bolsters on January 30, 2013, 08:39:48 PM
I'm always disappointed at live shows though, when a song like this or The Spirit Carries On or I Walk Beside you starts to be played...at least half of the crowd takes these songs as an opportunity to go to the bathroom.

Not in my country! TSCO was the song with the highest crowd partecipation at the show I attended (Milano, 2012).

MoraWintersoul

Quote from: Zook on January 30, 2013, 06:35:16 PM
Great song. It gets too much hate. All DT ballads do.
You're quite right about that.

?

Quote from: ? on July 07, 2012, 10:55:28 AM
Beautiful song although not among my favorites and also the only DT song I remember hearing on the radio.
Wow, this song has grown on me a lot in the past 6 months, it's one of my faves from SFAM now!