DT in the studio again!

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TAC

Quote from: robwebster on June 15, 2013, 06:05:18 PM
Quote from: chwik on June 15, 2013, 07:30:29 AM
Quote from: robwebster on June 15, 2013, 02:56:52 AM
I don't think the tour and the single have much impact on one another. Could be wrong, but I reckon a single's pretty assured, at this point. It's marketing for the disc, not the gigs - and it is one of the very most effective ways of generating a buzz, and showing the potential buyers that they'll actually enjoy what they're gonna buy.

Well, let's make a bet then shall we :) 100 DTF-points to the winner! You bet for a single released before the album, and I bet that there will be no single before the release of the album.

BTW, this is a bet I really hope I lose!  ;D
100 DTF-points? You're on!
Chwick obviously has more DTF points than he knows what to do with!
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

mellotron_scratch

Quote from: liran95 on June 15, 2013, 04:44:05 PM
Quote from: dedSurroun on June 15, 2013, 03:01:04 PM
There will be no tracklist until mid-August.

Cover will be released early September.

As for single, that won't happen for this album (and once the album is released, you'll know why).

If it's true, that's a very interesting statement :)

It would be interesting indeed...but I doubt it's true

Luigi

Quote from: ibosmiley on June 15, 2013, 05:30:58 PM
A self titled concept album?  Hmm... that doesn't seem to make sense in my brain.

It doesn`t sound weird to me.

Deve

Quote from: ibosmiley on June 15, 2013, 05:30:58 PM
A self titled concept album?  Hmm... that doesn't seem to make sense in my brain.

What if the subject matter of the album IS the band? Their hardships, their successes, their VERY SONGS...

Calling it now people, we're getting a song within a song on this album.

mellotron_scratch

Quote from: Deve on June 15, 2013, 08:00:59 PM
Quote from: ibosmiley on June 15, 2013, 05:30:58 PM
A self titled concept album?  Hmm... that doesn't seem to make sense in my brain.

What if the subject matter of the album IS the band? Their hardships, their successes, their VERY SONGS...

Calling it now people, we're getting a song within a song on this album.

Songception

ibosmiley

Quote from: Deve on June 15, 2013, 08:00:59 PM
Quote from: ibosmiley on June 15, 2013, 05:30:58 PM
A self titled concept album?  Hmm... that doesn't seem to make sense in my brain.

What if the subject matter of the album IS the band? Their hardships, their successes, their VERY SONGS...

Calling it now people, we're getting a song within a song on this album.

Hmmm... if it was a concept album ABOUT the band... then it might make sense in my brain.

Zook

Quote from: ibosmiley on June 15, 2013, 05:30:58 PM
A self titled concept album?  Hmm... that doesn't seem to make sense in my brain.

HolyHell's self titled debut appears to be a concept album.

lonestar

Quote from: Zook on June 15, 2013, 11:02:49 PM
Quote from: ibosmiley on June 15, 2013, 05:30:58 PM
A self titled concept album?  Hmm... that doesn't seem to make sense in my brain.

HolyHell's self titled debut appears to be a concept album.

Infinita Symphonia's self titled second album is a concept album also, and is quite good.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on June 15, 2013, 03:24:50 PM
There will definitely be a single.  There is always a single.  I have no idea why anyone would say otherwise.

Can we just sticky this as its own thread? I'm officially betting my entire post count right here and now that there will be a single before the album comes out.

CodyWanKenobi

I'm sure there will be a single, but I don't really see them releasing it anytime this month. I'm sure they released OTBOA this early last time was because they were gonna do the summer festivals and they wanted to unveil a new song. (and so MM could play one of 'his' songs)
My latest concept album "IV: Timber" IS OUT NOW!
linktree = STARCOMMANDStudios

Jaffa

Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 15, 2013, 11:19:07 PM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on June 15, 2013, 03:24:50 PM
There will definitely be a single.  There is always a single.  I have no idea why anyone would say otherwise.

Can we just sticky this as its own thread? I'm officially betting my entire post count right here and now that there will be a single before the album comes out.

Now I almost hope there isn't a single.

BlobVanDam

I don't think it will be this month. If we're lucky we'll get a tracklist. The single will most likely be next month, if not maybe early August.

TheGreatPretender

Quote from: Deve on June 15, 2013, 08:00:59 PM
What if the subject matter of the album IS the band? Their hardships, their successes, their VERY SONGS...


I think it'd be even cooler if it told another story, but the whole story was a metaphorical representation of what you stated.

liran95

Quote from: Deve on June 15, 2013, 08:00:59 PM
Quote from: ibosmiley on June 15, 2013, 05:30:58 PM
A self titled concept album?  Hmm... that doesn't seem to make sense in my brain.

What if the subject matter of the album IS the band? Their hardships, their successes, their VERY SONGS...

Calling it now people, we're getting a song within a song on this album.

:rollin

JayOctavarium

Single? Well DT was single for a while until they found Mike Mangini

wasteland

Quote from: JayOctavarium on June 15, 2013, 11:57:59 PM
Single? Well DT was single for a while until they found Mike Mangini
:marriageanalogy:

mellotron_scratch

Quote from: JayOctavarium on June 15, 2013, 11:57:59 PM
Single? Well DT was single for a while until they found Mike Mangini
:lol

chwik

Quote from: TAC on June 15, 2013, 06:12:21 PM
Quote from: robwebster on June 15, 2013, 06:05:18 PM
Quote from: chwik on June 15, 2013, 07:30:29 AM
Quote from: robwebster on June 15, 2013, 02:56:52 AM
I don't think the tour and the single have much impact on one another. Could be wrong, but I reckon a single's pretty assured, at this point. It's marketing for the disc, not the gigs - and it is one of the very most effective ways of generating a buzz, and showing the potential buyers that they'll actually enjoy what they're gonna buy.

Well, let's make a bet then shall we :) 100 DTF-points to the winner! You bet for a single released before the album, and I bet that there will be no single before the release of the album.

BTW, this is a bet I really hope I lose!  ;D
100 DTF-points? You're on!
Chwick obviously has more DTF points than he knows what to do with!

Well, I am the 1% of the richest 1% regarding DTF-points  ;)

TheGreatPretender

Quote from: JayOctavarium on June 15, 2013, 11:57:59 PM
Single? Well DT was single for a while until they found Mike Mangini

Some day I'll get married, and then get divorced. And then I'll get married again, and during my vows, I'll say, "I have finally found my Mike Mangini. I would like to, at this point, welcome you to the family."

Luigi

Just imagine Roadrunner anouncing this tracklist in some weeks:

Scene 1.
Scene 2.
Scene 3...

Not necessarily Metropolis Pt.3.

It can be about anything.

Bertielee

Quote from: Luigi on June 16, 2013, 01:36:47 AM
Just imagine Roadrunner anouncing this tracklist in some weeks:

Scene 1.
Scene 2.
Scene 3...

Not necessarily Metropolis Pt.3.

It can be about anything.

Or better : The concept will be called "Extensions" and the tracks will be named as follows :

1. jpg
2. bmp
3. png
4. mp3
5. txt
6. pdf
7. doc

B.Lee

Luigi

Quote from: Bertielee on June 16, 2013, 01:43:04 AM
Quote from: Luigi on June 16, 2013, 01:36:47 AM
Just imagine Roadrunner anouncing this tracklist in some weeks:

Scene 1.
Scene 2.
Scene 3...

Not necessarily Metropolis Pt.3.

It can be about anything.

Or better : The concept will be called "Extensions" and the tracks will be named as follows :

1. jpg
2. bmp
3. png
4. mp3
5. txt
6. pdf
7. doc

B.Lee

I didn`t explain myself well.

Every scene with a name, obviously.

Mladen

Quote from: TheLordOfTheStrings on June 15, 2013, 11:24:15 PM
I'm sure there will be a single, but I don't really see them releasing it anytime this month. I'm sure they released OTBOA this early last time was because they were gonna do the summer festivals and they wanted to unveil a new song. (and so MM could play one of 'his' songs)
My thoughts exactly. I'd love a single to come out soon, but I don't think it will.

Bertielee

Quote from: Luigi on June 16, 2013, 01:47:49 AM
Quote from: Bertielee on June 16, 2013, 01:43:04 AM
Quote from: Luigi on June 16, 2013, 01:36:47 AM
Just imagine Roadrunner anouncing this tracklist in some weeks:

Scene 1.
Scene 2.
Scene 3...

Not necessarily Metropolis Pt.3.

It can be about anything.

Or better : The concept will be called "Extensions" and the tracks will be named as follows :

1. jpg
2. bmp
3. png
4. mp3
5. txt
6. pdf
7. doc

B.Lee

I didn`t explain myself well.

Every scene with a name, obviously.

I was just kidding ;). You knew that? Or did you?

B.Lee

hefdaddy42

Quote from: Luigi on June 15, 2013, 07:57:16 PM
Quote from: ibosmiley on June 15, 2013, 05:30:58 PM
A self titled concept album?  Hmm... that doesn't seem to make sense in my brain.

It doesn`t sound weird to me.
Well, OK.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

aprilethereal

Quote from: Bertielee on June 16, 2013, 01:43:04 AM
The concept will be called "Extensions" and will be named as follows :

1. jpg
2. bmp
3. png
4. mp3
5. txt
6. pdf
7. doc

B.Lee

That would be really awesome :lol

I guess mp3 is the single

Fisi

Quote from: Bertielee on June 16, 2013, 01:43:04 AM
Quote from: Luigi on June 16, 2013, 01:36:47 AM
Just imagine Roadrunner anouncing this tracklist in some weeks:

Scene 1.
Scene 2.
Scene 3...

Not necessarily Metropolis Pt.3.

It can be about anything.

Or better : The concept will be called "Extensions" and the tracks will be named as follows :

1. jpg
2. bmp
3. png
4. mp3
5. txt
6. pdf
7. doc

B.Lee
Hey, this might explain the lack of keyboard solos - .mp3 and .jpg for example are so heavily compressed that the solos were lost in the process! On the other hand, .txt is so limited that you just can't put a keyboard solo there.

Lucien

Quote from: aprilethereal on June 16, 2013, 05:23:48 AM
Quote from: Bertielee on June 16, 2013, 01:43:04 AM
The concept will be called "Extensions" and will be named as follows :

1. jpg
2. bmp
3. png
4. mp3
5. txt
6. pdf
7. doc

B.Lee

That would be really awesome :lol

I guess mp3 is the single

MP3 would sound a lot more like SC, and there would be growling (by the new Mike) and aspects of death/black metal.

The Letter M

If it IS a concept album, it would lend credence to the idea that their opening track, written after the rest of the album, will be a sort of overture of sorts, containing themes and motifs used later in the album. Doing the overture/opening track at the end ensures that they know what's going on with the rest of the music and can dissect the rest of the tracks to pick parts for an overture.

Also, many of their instrumentals have also been parts of concepts; "Erotomania" in "A Mind Beside Itself" was a sort of overture, SFAM had 2 instrumentals one of which was an overture, and "Six Degrees" overture contained many themes used throughout the whole piece.

I think we're looking at a 9-song concept album with an overture and an instrumental somewhere in the middle. However, it'll be unlike their other albums in that not only is it a concept album but it also has a longer epic on it. It might be like if SFAM had an ACOS/8VM-like piece in the middle of it. Could be interesting, especially if "epic" in their working titles means a song around 20 minutes long, but I'd be more than happy if it was 10-15 minutes long, especially if this IS a concept album meant to be heard in its entirety, I wouldn't mind 9 songs of varying length between 2-15 minutes long, as long as most of them are relatively long.

-Marc.

ariich

Why are people still thinking it's a concept album?! Because of some speculative comment by someone with no authority?

Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on May 10, 2023, 05:59:19 PMAriich is a freak, or somehow has more hours in the day than everyone else.
Quote from: TAC on December 21, 2023, 06:05:15 AMI be am boner inducing.

Tomislav95

It's fun to discuss about various ways this album can end up. And some of entries are hilarious so it's always fun to read them ;)

Lucien

Quote from: The Letter M on June 16, 2013, 08:47:45 AM
If it IS a concept album, it would lend credence to the idea that their opening track, written after the rest of the album, will be a sort of overture of sorts, containing themes and motifs used later in the album. Doing the overture/opening track at the end ensures that they know what's going on with the rest of the music and can dissect the rest of the tracks to pick parts for an overture.

Also, many of their instrumentals have also been parts of concepts; "Erotomania" in "A Mind Beside Itself" was a sort of overture, SFAM had 2 instrumentals one of which was an overture, and "Six Degrees" overture contained many themes used throughout the whole piece.

I think we're looking at a 9-song concept album with an overture and an instrumental somewhere in the middle. However, it'll be unlike their other albums in that not only is it a concept album but it also has a longer epic on it. It might be like if SFAM had an ACOS/8VM-like piece in the middle of it. Could be interesting, especially if "epic" in their working titles means a song around 20 minutes long, but I'd be more than happy if it was 10-15 minutes long, especially if this IS a concept album meant to be heard in its entirety, I wouldn't mind 9 songs of varying length between 2-15 minutes long, as long as most of them are relatively long.

-Marc.

Completely agree. :clap:

Shadow Ninja 2.0

It's a concept about Kevin Moore. The final song on the album is titled "I'll Never Be Open Again".



:P

MrBoom_shack-a-lack

Quote from: ariich on June 16, 2013, 09:19:01 AM
Why are people still thinking it's a concept album?! Because of some speculative comment by someone with no authority?
I may have missed something but have they officially said it's not a concept album?

BlobVanDam

It's a concept album about not being a concept album at all, and part of the concept is that none of the lyrics or music will be related at all.