Your Controversial Opinions on DT

[King Postwhore]

Silly people wanting JM to be something he is not.  JM plays what he want to play on the songs.  Not what you want.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

If JM's happy with what he plays, I'm good with it.

[sneakyblueberry]

I always thought JM's bass tone was pretty horrible.  Sounds like a bunch of trouts flapping about on wet concrete.

[PROGdrummer]

bass tone was better before he switched to Music Man

[JiM-Xtreme]

Silly people wanting JM to be something he is not.  JM plays what he want to play on the songs.  Not what you want.

[abrandnewname]

My controversial opinion of DT is that Awake is better than SDOIT.

[ThatOneGuy2112]

My controversial opinion of DT is that Awake is better than SDOIT.

I'm not so sure that's all that controversial around here.

But now that you mention, I think my (maybe not so) controversial opinion would be that I like Train of Thought more than Awake.

[jakepriest]

My controversial opinion of DT is that Awake is better than SDOIT.

I'm not so sure that's all that controversial around here.

But now that you mention, I think my (maybe not so) controversial opinion would be that I like Train of Thought more than Awake.

Train of Thought is my no. 1 album.

[Zook]

My controversial opinion of DT is that Awake is better than SDOIT.

You have no idea of the wrath you have just bestowed upon yourself.

[Sycsa]

Hypothetically, I imagine if I had been a DT fan in the I&W era, I would have had huge expectations for Awake and would have ended up being disappointed. In hindsight, it's a great album, but it still ranks in my bottom half. I reckon FII would have been a bit of a letdown as well (although it's a huge grower), so no wonder SFAM was do or die for them.

[jakepriest]

If I had to choose between Awake and I&W there would be no contest. Awake is miles ahead for me.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

Awake is my favorite DT album.

[Lucidity]

I think Six Degrees is the only DT album that has not had a single song that I don't particularly care for.

[XB0BX]

I've never thought JM was an amazing bassist. He's obviously extremely skilled at playing the bass, but I'm shocked someone with his skill, in the most self-indulgent progressive metal band in the world, hasn't shown off his skill more often. His bass lines have always just been boring to me. It's okay to not show off in the music, but in a band like DT, you SHOULD show off. Don't just suit the song, wow us once in a while. And he's so buried in the mix. And once you actually hear the bass, he's not doing anything exceptional. I just wish he did MORE. I can't fathom why some people consider him to be the greatest bassist of all time. Wouldn't make my top 20.

[King Postwhore]

Hypothetically, I imagine if I had been a DT fan in the I&W era, I would have had huge expectations for Awake and would have ended up being disappointed. In hindsight, it's a great album, but it still ranks in my bottom half. I reckon FII would have been a bit of a letdown as well (although it's a huge grower), so no wonder SFAM was do or die for them.

That is exactly how I felt.  When Awake came out I fell in love fast but it soon lost it's luster.  I liked FII and it stayed with me a lot longer but I was looking for something more like I&W

[BlobVanDam]

My controversial opinion of DT is that Awake is better than SDOIT.

That's not controversial around here.





But it should be, because it's thoroughly wrong.

[425]

Since we're sorting out our opinions on SDOIT, I'll say this: I rarely listen to SDOIT the album at all. The Great Debate and Disappear don't really do much for me, and Misunderstood is good until the ending which I do not care for at all and makes me less inclined to listen to the song. The big one is excellent but one that I don't listen to incredibly often due to its length. That leaves Blind Faith and The Glass Prison as the only songs from SDOIT aside from the title song that I like all the way through and the only two that I listen to on anything resembling a regular basis. Probably in my bottom third of DT albums.

[bl5150]

Since we're sorting out our opinions on SDOIT, I'll say this: I rarely listen to SDOIT the album at all. The Great Debate and Disappear don't really do much for me, and Misunderstood is good until the ending which I do not care for at all and makes me less inclined to listen to the song. The big one is excellent but one that I don't listen to incredibly often due to its length. That leaves Blind Faith and The Glass Prison as the only songs from SDOIT aside from the title song that I like all the way through and the only two that I listen to on anything resembling a regular basis. Probably in my bottom third of DT albums.

I've already expressed my indifference toward SDOIT Disc 1 ........so everyone already knows my opinions suck on this matter 


I don't know if it's just small samples size/coincidence but amongst the DT fans I know personally (half a dozen) -  three got into them about the same time as me (1992 - Images and Words) and three were later in the TOT  to SC era.   

The first group of three all had the same thoughts on FII and SDOIT -  initially struggled with FII but grew to love it.  Never liked SDOIT Disc One,

The second (younger) group all think SDOIT is the best thing since sliced bread.

Coincidence perhaps but interesting all the same.

[Crow]

Awake is my favorite DT album.

Total truth. Awake is just absolutely perfect from beginning to end, it's hard for any album to do that. Even I&W and SFAM I don't enjoy consistently front to back (though I do most of the way through...)

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

Since we're sorting out our opinions on SDOIT, I'll say this: I rarely listen to SDOIT the album at all. The Great Debate and Disappear don't really do much for me, and Misunderstood is good until the ending which I do not care for at all and makes me less inclined to listen to the song. The big one is excellent but one that I don't listen to incredibly often due to its length. That leaves Blind Faith and The Glass Prison as the only songs from SDOIT aside from the title song that I like all the way through and the only two that I listen to on anything resembling a regular basis. Probably in my bottom third of DT albums.

I've already expressed my indifference toward SDOIT Disc 1 ........so everyone already knows my opinions suck on this matter 


I don't know if it's just small samples size/coincidence but amongst the DT fans I know personally (half a dozen) -  three got into them about the same time as me (1992 - Images and Words) and three were later in the TOT  to SC era.   

The first group of three all had the same thoughts on FII and SDOIT -  initially struggled with FII but grew to love it.  Never liked SDOIT Disc One,

The second (younger) group all think SDOIT is the best thing since sliced bread.

Coincidence perhaps but interesting all the same.

Well, for what it's worth, I got into DT around 2010-ish, and Black Clouds And Silver Linings was the first album I bought. And as I said before,

Awake is my favorite DT album.

Though, I'm hardly a representative sample of the fanbase.

[bl5150]

You obviously have great taste      For me Awake is second only to I&W.

[425]

I got into DT in December 2012. My favorite album is Images and Words followed by Scenes from a Memory, and SDOIT falls neatly into my bottom 5 albums.

[Jaq]

My controversial opinion of DT is that Awake is better than SDOIT.

You have no idea of the wrath you have just bestowed upon yourself.

You wanna see wrath? After a recent re-listen to all their albums, I can now say that ToT > SDOIT. Disc 1 bores me to tears, and it's getting harder and harder for me to get past War Inside My Head/Test That Stumped Them All when I play the title track. The only thing keeping this from being a wider gulf is Honor Thy Father is legit the only DT song I flat out hate.

Bring it.

[Zook]

My controversial opinion of DT is that Awake is better than SDOIT.

You have no idea of the wrath you have just bestowed upon yourself.

You wanna see wrath? After a recent re-listen to all their albums, I can now say that ToT > SDOIT. Disc 1 bores me to tears, and it's getting harder and harder for me to get past War Inside My Head/Test That Stumped Them All when I play the title track. The only thing keeping this from being a wider gulf is Honor Thy Father is legit the only DT song I flat out hate.

Bring it.

Actually I was referring to Blob bringing the wrath, but he didn't quite take the bait like I'd hoped. Very anti-climactic...

[Outcrier]

My controversial opinion of DT is that Awake is better than SDOIT.

You have no idea of the wrath you have just bestowed upon yourself.

You wanna see wrath? After a recent re-listen to all their albums, I can now say that ToT > SDOIT. Disc 1 bores me to tears, and it's getting harder and harder for me to get past War Inside My Head/Test That Stumped Them All when I play the title track. The only thing keeping this from being a wider gulf is Honor Thy Father is legit the only DT song I flat out hate.

Bring it.

I prefer SDOIT because of the diverse songwriting (against the more straightforward approach in TOT) and also, as a plus, it doesn't suffer too much in the out of control wankery department (i get that many fans like it but sometimes, it's too excessive)

[The Stray Seed]

The Enemy Inside is the best straightforward metal song DT has ever made.

[Konrad]

Had a hard time trying to discover what each acronym meant.
Are you guys lazy? Why not write the whole album or song name?

The only good thing in "The Best of Times" is the guitar solo.
A Change of Seasons (the song, not the album) is a masterpiece.
Dream Theater music is better appreciated in sunny but cold weathers
The band is decreasing in creativity and innovation and becoming "heavier" each album.
Falling into Infinity is one of their greatest albums.
The Enemy Inside doesn't even sound like Dream Theater.
Trial of Tears is one of their best songs, if not THE best.
Another Day is the best pop-ish song.


I think that's all...
Remember, if your opinion doesn't match mine, it means you're goofy and you're wrong 

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

Yes, we are lazy.

The Best of Times is great.
Yes.
Never made the connection, myself.
Not really. Train Of Thought is still their heaviest. Innovation and creativity are arguable.
I disagree.
...But it is Dream Theater.
I disagree.
I agree.

Good to have another ninja here.

[jakepriest]

Had a hard time trying to discover what each acronym meant.
Are you guys lazy? Why not write the whole album or song name?

The only good thing in "The Best of Times" is the guitar solo.
A Change of Seasons (the song, not the album) is a masterpiece.
Dream Theater music is better appreciated in sunny but cold weathers
The band is decreasing in creativity and innovation and becoming "heavier" each album.
Falling into Infinity is one of their greatest albums.
The Enemy Inside doesn't even sound like Dream Theater.
Trial of Tears is one of their best songs, if not THE best.
Another Day is the best pop-ish song.


I think that's all...
Remember, if your opinion doesn't match mine, it means you're goofy and you're wrong 

TBOT is great all the way through.
ACOS is a masterpiece until Another World, which is it's highest point. After that the song goes meh.
No comment.
I don't see how ADToE is heavy.
Bottom 3 album.
The Enemy Inside is one of the best straight-out metal songs they've done.
Trial of Tears is top 20 material.
Another Day is ridiculously overrated.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

Had a hard time trying to discover what each acronym meant.
Are you guys lazy? Why not write the whole album or song name?

The only good thing in "The Best of Times" is the guitar solo.
A Change of Seasons (the song, not the album) is a masterpiece.
Dream Theater music is better appreciated in sunny but cold weathers
The band is decreasing in creativity and innovation and becoming "heavier" each album.
Falling into Infinity is one of their greatest albums.
The Enemy Inside doesn't even sound like Dream Theater.
Trial of Tears is one of their best songs, if not THE best.
Another Day is the best pop-ish song.


I think that's all...
Remember, if your opinion doesn't match mine, it means you're goofy and you're wrong 

TBOT is great all the way through.
ACOS is a masterpiece until Another World, which is it's highest point. After that the song goes meh.
No comment.
I don't see how ADToE is heavy.
Bottom 3 album.
The Enemy Inside is one of the best straight-out metal songs they've done.
Trial of Tears is top 20 material.
Another Day is ridiculously overrated.

Really? Apart from me and him, I've never really seen much love for it.

[BlobVanDam]

Yeah, a song has to be rated before it can be overrated. Of all of IAW, it gets the most hate, easily. Personally I'd say its underrated if anything, as the shorter, accessible songs often are.

[GasparXR]

Yeah, a song has to be rated before it can be overrated. Of all of IAW, it gets the most hate, easily. Personally I'd say its underrated if anything, as the shorter, accessible songs often are.

Definitely underrated. I think it's one of their best poppier-sounding songs.

[Sycsa]

The '80s romantic sax kills it. I'd rather listen to a 10 hour epic sax guy loop.

[theseoafs]

The band is decreasing in creativity and innovation and becoming "heavier" each album.
The Enemy Inside doesn't even sound like Dream Theater.

... if DT released a song that didn't sound like themselves at all, wouldn't that mean they're being more creative, not less?

In any case only a few of your opinions are actually controversial.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

The '80s romantic sax kills it. I'd rather listen to a 10 hour epic sax guy loop.

The saxophone is one of my favorite parts.