Obligatory top 10 songs list Thread

[GasparXR]

Ok here we go, time to probably piss people off...

1. Overture 1928/strange deja vu
2. Octavarium
3. SDoIT
4. The glass prison
5. Blind faith
6. Finally free
7. Space dye vest
8. Take the time
9. A rite of passage (yes f*ck you)
10. One last time

Some really nice choices in there. The only ones I disagree with are the last three and overture 1928/strange deja-vu.

[Cedar redaC]

Hey A Rite of Passage was one of my first Dream Theater songs, so I get it. It is pretty awesome!

[jonnybaxy]

Ok here we go, time to probably piss people off...

1. Overture 1928/strange deja vu
2. Octavarium
3. SDoIT
4. The glass prison
5. Blind faith
6. Finally free
7. Space dye vest
8. Take the time
9. A rite of passage (yes f*ck you)
10. One last time

Some really nice choices in there. The only ones I disagree with are the last three and overture 1928/strange deja-vu.

Just take it with a pinch of salt, its very hard to choose a top ten when they are all so good! I suppose overtur/fatal tragedy aren't exactly right, I just like SFAM overall as my number 1 

[Rattlehead]

I don't think A Rite of Passage is even close to being as bad as some people here make it out to be. It's very far from what I perceive as DT's rock bottom (for example BMU,BMD, I Walk Beside You, You Not Me), excluding WDADU. I know it's not the most exciting song but neither is half of ADToE or 90% of Octavarium, two albums that seem almost universally loved here. Just my opinion though... 

[MoraWintersoul]

It's not bad, but at best, it's Dream Theater doing a really good Metallica. But then again, so is ToT, and I adore ToT

[jonnybaxy]

I don't think A Rite of Passage is even close to being as bad as some people here make it out to be. It's very far from what I perceive as DT's rock bottom (for example BMU,BMD, I Walk Beside You, You Not Me), excluding WDADU. I know it's not the most exciting song but neither is half of ADToE or 90% of Octavarium, two albums that seem almost universally loved here. Just my opinion though... 

Octavarium is my second favorite album, following SFAM obviously, but ADToE wasn't DT to me (yes I said that as well... come at me) 

[MoraWintersoul]

Octavarium is my second favorite album, following SFAM obviously, but ADToE wasn't DT to me (yes I said that as well... come at me) 

It has "Dream Theater" on the CD so it is DT unless it's absolutely necessary for you for Mike Portnoy to be credited for some music in order for it to be a DT album. Which is fine, but then you disagree with John Petrucci, James LaBrie, John Myung and Jordan Rudess. AND Mike Mangini. And I think their opinion has a slight advantage

[jonnybaxy]

Octavarium is my second favorite album, following SFAM obviously, but ADToE wasn't DT to me (yes I said that as well... come at me) 

It has "Dream Theater" on the CD so it is DT unless it's absolutely necessary for you for Mike Portnoy to be credited for some music in order for it to be a DT album. Which is fine, but then you disagree with John Petrucci, James LaBrie, John Myung and Jordan Rudess. AND Mike Mangini. And I think their opinion has a slight advantage

No It's not just MP, it just sounded held back to me, didn't have the "oomph" of DT :/

[Rattlehead]

I don't think A Rite of Passage is even close to being as bad as some people here make it out to be. It's very far from what I perceive as DT's rock bottom (for example BMU,BMD, I Walk Beside You, You Not Me), excluding WDADU. I know it's not the most exciting song but neither is half of ADToE or 90% of Octavarium, two albums that seem almost universally loved here. Just my opinion though... 

Octavarium is my second favorite album, following SFAM obviously, but ADToE wasn't DT to me (yes I said that as well... come at me) 

Nothing wrong with that...  I could just never get into Octavarium personally. I do like the title track although certain parts drag the song down imo (full circle... ) , and I do like The Root of All Evil. Panic attack is ok I guess...

The rest in my opinion is just... 

[?]

Octavarium is my second favorite album, following SFAM obviously, but ADToE wasn't DT to me (yes I said that as well... come at me) 

To be honest I totally agree with you - they truly lost something when they stopped emulating Metallica and Muse.



Ok, just kidding... There's nothing wrong with taking influences from others, everyone has some. The Great Debate is even one of my favorite DT songs, although it's basically Tool worship. But I think 8V is a pretty inconsistent album and there are too many songs and parts with blatant influences - when I listen to the album, I can't help thinking: "here comes the U2 song, here's the Muse song, here's some Pink Floyd..." They just took the tributing thing too far. ADTOE may be a safe album, but at least it sounds like DT and not like other bands.

[BlobVanDam]

Octavarium is my second favorite album, following SFAM obviously, but ADToE wasn't DT to me (yes I said that as well... come at me) 

It has "Dream Theater" on the CD so it is DT unless it's absolutely necessary for you for Mike Portnoy to be credited for some music in order for it to be a DT album. Which is fine, but then you disagree with John Petrucci, James LaBrie, John Myung and Jordan Rudess. AND Mike Mangini. And I think their opinion has a slight advantage

No It's not just MP, it just sounded held back to me, didn't have the "oomph" of DT :/

I agree. I don't agree that it "wasn't DT", because it was, but it definitely lacks "oomph", as you put it. I think of it more as sterile. It doesn't have the same energy of their other albums.

[MoraWintersoul]

...it definitely lacks "oomph", as you put it.

I do think it lacks oomph, but so do SC and most of BCSL, even a lot more so, and I still consider them Dream Theater, that's where I was going with the post

[jonnybaxy]

Octavarium is my second favorite album, following SFAM obviously, but ADToE wasn't DT to me (yes I said that as well... come at me) 

To be honest I totally agree with you - they truly lost something when they stopped emulating Metallica and Muse.



Ok, just kidding... There's nothing wrong with taking influences from others, everyone has some. The Great Debate is even one of my favorite DT songs, although it's basically Tool worship. But I think 8V is a pretty inconsistent album and there are too many songs and parts with blatant influences - when I listen to the album, I can't help thinking: "here comes the U2 song, here's the Muse song, here's some Pink Floyd..." They just took the tributing thing too far. ADTOE may be a safe album, but at least it sounds like DT and not like other bands.

I get what you mean, but they aren't as similar as a cover of them, but i can tell its influenced, its like their take on the styles. The songs are still great

[GasparXR]

Octavarium is my second favorite album, following SFAM obviously, but ADToE wasn't DT to me (yes I said that as well... come at me) 

To be honest I totally agree with you - they truly lost something when they stopped emulating Metallica and Muse.



Ok, just kidding... There's nothing wrong with taking influences from others, everyone has some. The Great Debate is even one of my favorite DT songs, although it's basically Tool worship. But I think 8V is a pretty inconsistent album and there are too many songs and parts with blatant influences - when I listen to the album, I can't help thinking: "here comes the U2 song, here's the Muse song, here's some Pink Floyd..." They just took the tributing thing too far. ADTOE may be a safe album, but at least it sounds like DT and not like other bands.

I get what you mean, but they aren't as similar as a cover of them, but i can tell its influenced, its like their take on the styles. The songs are still great

No matter what band the songs sound like, they still sound amazing. In the case of the Metallica songs, they are better at writing Metallica than Metallica is.

[BlobVanDam]

...it definitely lacks "oomph", as you put it.

I do think it lacks oomph, but so do SC and most of BCSL, even a lot more so, and I still consider them Dream Theater, that's where I was going with the post

I disagree strongly there. Those albums lack consistency, but if there's one thing they don't lack, it's oomph! They have a lot of energy and fun to them. ADTOE in comparison feels a bit lifeless to me, even at its great points.
The flat mix contributes to that, I think. There's no reason BITS shouldn't be kicking me in the face, but instead it's just nudging me with its shoulder.

[Pinga]

I prefer a sterile mix to sterile songwriting any day of the week.

[BlobVanDam]

imo ADTOE has both problems, whereas the last few albums had neither.

[Cedar redaC]

imo ADTOE has both problems, whereas the last few albums had neither.

Wat?

[BlobVanDam]

imo ADTOE has both problems, whereas the last few albums had neither.

Wat?

I was replying to Pinga's post. What part don't you get?

[Cedar redaC]

imo ADTOE has both problems, whereas the last few albums had neither.

Wat?

I was replying to Pinga's post. What part don't you get?

The bit that's bolded. I think that A Dramatic Turn of Events has great song writing, and pretty decent production. Sure, it could have been better, I wouldn't call it sterile by a long shot.

[BlobVanDam]

imo ADTOE has both problems, whereas the last few albums had neither.

Wat?

I was replying to Pinga's post. What part don't you get?

The bit that's bolded. I think that A Dramatic Turn of Events has great song writing, and pretty decent production. Sure, it could have been better, I wouldn't call it sterile by a long shot.

The mix sounds unfinished to me, like a raw mix to the point where I have trouble listening to it. The drums are dry and flat, and there's no kick to anything.
And songwriting-wise, I find the album sterile and safe. It doesn't have a lot of "character" or distinctive traits that set it apart. Not that these are necessarily bad things, but the album does little for me.
It's not that it's a bad album by any stretch, but it doesn't compel me to ever want to listen to it, especially over their other albums.

[wasteland]

You alrady know I disagree

Also, Surrounded entered my top 10 for the first time, last week! 

[Zydar]

Also, Surrounded entered my top 10 for the first time, last week! 

[wasteland]

Also, Surrounded entered my top 10 for the first time, last week! 

And I will HOLD it far abooo-oooo-oove the other soooonngs. 

[GasparXR]

Also, Surrounded entered my top 10 for the first time, last week! 

And I will HOLD it far abooo-oooo-oove the other soooonngs. 

That statement was just as cheesy as Surrounded. (but it's the most delicious cheese you've ever tasted)

[Rob]

Surrounded is the best. 

[Sycsa]

1. Overture 1928/strange deja vu

I absolutely love this choice.

[jhonvictor]

1 - 6DOIT
2 - ACOS
3 - Octavarium
4 - Glass Prison
5 - Metropolis Pt1
6 - Trial of Tears
7 - Dance of Eternity
8 - Erotomania
9 - Learning to Live
10 - Misunderstood

[Cedar redaC]

Nice list, and welcome to the forums!

[BlobVanDam]

1 - 6DOIT
2 - ACOS
3 - Octavarium
4 - Glass Prison
5 - Metropolis Pt1
6 - Trial of Tears
7 - Dance of Eternity
8 - Erotomania
9 - Learning to Live
10 - Misunderstood

Cool list! I see you like the long ones.

[wasteland]

What's DTF-Ratings-And-Lists Bureau's official stance on SDOIT, again? One piece or eight related songs?

[BlobVanDam]

What's DTF-Ratings-And-Lists Bureau's official stance on SDOIT, again? One piece or eight related songs?

It's one song. It's even in the rules, punk! 

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=6251.0

[wasteland]

What's DTF-Ratings-And-Lists Bureau's official stance on SDOIT, again? One piece or eight related songs?

It's one song. It's even in the rules, punk! 

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=6251.0

I am going to put forward a bill to change this madness. As sure as I did ever love him.

[BlobVanDam]

What's DTF-Ratings-And-Lists Bureau's official stance on SDOIT, again? One piece or eight related songs?

It's one song. It's even in the rules, punk! 

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=6251.0

I am going to put forward a bill to change this madness. As sure as I did ever love him.

You can't change facts. Turn to the light. Turning away would be a terrible mistake.

[wasteland]

I am not sure if I belong to light or to darkness. Thoughout my whole life I've been periodically swayed from light to dark, dark to light, light, dark to light.