2012-08-19/20 - Luna Park - Buenos Aires, ARG (being filmed for DVD)

[BlobVanDam]

For anyone still not sold on the "surprise" factor, something especially special did happen.


***PROBABLE DVD SPOILERS****

I'm sold.

[Cedar redaC]

I think it would be cool if they released a CD of just the songs of of A Dramatic Turn of Events in album order, kind of like how Rush did with Moving Pictures: 2011. Granted, Dream Theater didn't play the album cover to cover all at once and in order, but I would still buy it.

So we could skip 'em all at once?

Sorry, I just had to. I won't skip 'em, anyway.

Nice, I'm going to need some ice for that BUUUURRRRRNNNNN!! 



(I'll admit, I kind of expected something to that effect being posted. Still, it would be cool to hear the album in a live setting.)

[Nekov]

For anyone still not sold on the "surprise" factor, something especially special did happen.


***PROBABLE DVD SPOILERS****











I have it on very good authority that Jordan Rudess wore his wizard hat during at least one of the encores.  So there














***SPOILERS OVER***

He did on both nights

[bosk1]

He has truly become an Internet meme.

[Perpetual Change]

He has truly become an Internet meme.

I love this update: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKGLgCRR2HY&feature=plcp

[IdoSC]

God, James just nails everything. It's gonna be better than Score.

Let me put it this way...
"Burden me, LEAD ME LIKE A LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMB TO THE SLAUGHTER!"

[Zydar]

He has truly become an Internet meme.

I love this update: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKGLgCRR2HY&feature=plcp

My God

Just don't let JR anywhere near the editing for the new DVD.

[Mladen]

I hope Jordan wore the cape like on couple of other concerts on this tour. I still refuse to look at the photos and videos from the gig, hopefully I won't give in. 

[Tomislav95]

I'm going to be happy with DVD. 3 songs off Awake, it can't be bad

[ResultsMayVary]

I hope that they release a CD/DVD since I do not own a blu-ray player and I would like to have the video and audio versions of the DVD. From what Scotty has said on the last page, I'm excited for the Huntington bonus songs as well as some other features which have yet to be revealed.

I agree with Adami that they could have switched the sets up a little more between the nights, because they could have. The set, imho, is not the best they could have gone with. Although, I'm happy to see These Walls and Caught In A Web on the DVD. The bonus songs and bonus features should make up for my disappointment regarding the set of choice for the show. From what the band said, I was excited for something 'stellar' instead of a string quartet, which was already done on Score (essentially).

[Ben_Jamin]

I've got a hunch that it's going to look like, if not better than, L@B. If so, then it might end up being their best DVD yet. I enjoyed the darker atmosphere of Budakon, Score was too bright for me. With that seeing TSCO in this setting will kick Scores version out of the field.

I better stop, getting too excited there.

[IdoSC]

I don't think they confirmed that, but is there any chance that some song which was played in either night would be dropped from the release? Like, could they suddenly decide that they only include 6:00 rather than including both that song and Caught in a Web or something?

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Also, I think James started singing some line in either The Test or War Inside My Head a little bit too early on the 19th. I hope it didn't happen on the 20th, and that they won't include the first version in the DVD...

[ResultsMayVary]

I don't think they confirmed that, but is there any chance that some song which was played in either night would be dropped from the release? Like, could they suddenly decide that they only include 6:00 rather than including both that song and Caught in a Web or something?

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Also, I think James started singing some line in either The Test or War Inside My Head a little bit too early on the 19th. I hope it didn't happen on the 20th, and that they won't include the first version in the DVD...

That may have been why they played war/test again on the 20th. I heard that he missed a chorus in test on the 19th, like you mentioned. And i'm pretty sure they'll include every song they played on the DVD, while just cutting the songs they played twice. Other than that, we'll see some cool editing.

[Nekov]

Also, I think James started singing some line in either The Test or War Inside My Head a little bit too early on the 19th. I hope it didn't happen on the 20th, and that they won't include the first version in the DVD...

Not that I can remember

I don't think they confirmed that, but is there any chance that some song which was played in either night would be dropped from the release? Like, could they suddenly decide that they only include 6:00 rather than including both that song and Caught in a Web or something?

I'm guessing that if they don't like how one of them sounded then that might get cut but I wouldn't think so. I can tell you right now MM's solo will be taken from the first night. On the second night he flopped the part where he plays at his top speed but was very classy about it 

That may have been why they played war/test again on the 20th. I heard that he missed a chorus in test on the 19th, like you mentioned. And i'm pretty sure they'll include every song they played on the DVD, while just cutting the songs they played twice. Other than that, we'll see some cool editing.

I'm pretty sure he also missed a little part the second night or at least it seemed to me that way.

[IdoSC]

I don't think they confirmed that, but is there any chance that some song which was played in either night would be dropped from the release? Like, could they suddenly decide that they only include 6:00 rather than including both that song and Caught in a Web or something?

--

Also, I think James started singing some line in either The Test or War Inside My Head a little bit too early on the 19th. I hope it didn't happen on the 20th, and that they won't include the first version in the DVD...

That may have been why they played war/test again on the 20th. I heard that he missed a chorus in test on the 19th, like you mentioned. And i'm pretty sure they'll include every song they played on the DVD, while just cutting the songs they played twice. Other than that, we'll see some cool editing.

I'm pretty sure about it too, but I wanted to make sure cause in this case it's gonna disappoint me like hell if they don't feature both songs from the rotating ones. CIAW, 6:00, TDEN and These Walls are all very exciting to me as a fan.

CIAW doesn't have a proper representation post-5 Years in a Livetime (LSFNY version was a mess, and JLB's voice cracked in Chile 2005). CIM's version of TDEN is probably one of its weakest performances. 6:00 barely has any representation other than Awake in Japan, and These Walls is one of the few songs from Octavarium they didn't feature on Score, I'm psyched to see a proper version of it (we have Romavarium and other bootlegs, but meh).

[hefdaddy42]

Am I crazy about a few of the song choices?  No.  But I'm not disappointed at all, and can't wait for this.

[kevinpwrs]

I just watched several videos of these concerts and couldn't help but notice that the cameras on the booms (cranes) are constantly moving. Up, down, high, low, in, out etc. I don't know anything about filming a concert, but I found this to be bothersome. I trust the DT boys know what they are doing. I just hope the dvd is not filled with quick shots and constant cut aways. I like smooth camera work and longer shots of the musicians rather than quick hitting shots then cut to the next guy. I have yet to see a vid for These Walls. If someone has, could you pm me the link? Only if that is not against forum rules. Thanks.

[Tomislav95]

I would like something like others DT live DVDs. For example, Operation Livecrime looks like music video, not live concert.

[IdoSC]

I just watched several videos of these concerts and couldn't help but notice that the cameras on the booms (cranes) are constantly moving. Up, down, high, low, in, out etc. I don't know anything about filming a concert, but I found this to be bothersome. I trust the DT boys know what they are doing. I just hope the dvd is not filled with quick shots and constant cut aways. I like smooth camera work and longer shots of the musicians rather than quick hitting shots then cut to the next guy. I have yet to see a vid for These Walls. If someone has, could you pm me the link? Only if that is not against forum rules. Thanks.

I haven't seen an upload of These Walls yet.

There are supposedly 10 cameras filming these shows, so even if you see 3 cameras moving around, the other 7 might be completely still at that same moment while these 3 are basically being "repositioned".

Also, even in their previous DVDs, sometimes cameras move. Sometimes James moves around the stage and the cameras just follow him and he stays on the frame for a while nonetheless, for example. You shouldn't even trust DT on that; you should trust Over the Edge, RoadRunner, there are so many people who took care of it during the show and will take care of it alongside JP during the production and mixing of the recorded material.

[ResultsMayVary]

I just watched several videos of these concerts and couldn't help but notice that the cameras on the booms (cranes) are constantly moving. Up, down, high, low, in, out etc. I don't know anything about filming a concert, but I found this to be bothersome. I trust the DT boys know what they are doing. I just hope the dvd is not filled with quick shots and constant cut aways. I like smooth camera work and longer shots of the musicians rather than quick hitting shots then cut to the next guy. I have yet to see a vid for These Walls. If someone has, could you pm me the link? Only if that is not against forum rules. Thanks.

I haven't seen an upload of These Walls yet.

There are supposedly 10 cameras filming these shows, so even if you see 3 cameras moving around, the other 7 might be completely still at that same moment while these 3 are basically being "repositioned".

Also, even in their previous DVDs, sometimes cameras move. Sometimes James moves around the stage and the cameras just follow him and he stays on the frame for a while nonetheless, for example. You shouldn't even trust DT on that; you should trust Over the Edge, RoadRunner, there are so many people who took care of it during the show and will take care of it alongside JP during the production and mixing of the recorded material.

This.

The new DVD is going to be shot differently then the past few official DT DVDs due to the fact they're using Over The Edge to film and edit the DVD together. The only indicator we can get on what it might look like is the previous Over The Edge live videos that they have filmed and put together for other bands. As far as I know, some of those videos are listed on their website.

[IdoSC]

I just watched several videos of these concerts and couldn't help but notice that the cameras on the booms (cranes) are constantly moving. Up, down, high, low, in, out etc. I don't know anything about filming a concert, but I found this to be bothersome. I trust the DT boys know what they are doing. I just hope the dvd is not filled with quick shots and constant cut aways. I like smooth camera work and longer shots of the musicians rather than quick hitting shots then cut to the next guy. I have yet to see a vid for These Walls. If someone has, could you pm me the link? Only if that is not against forum rules. Thanks.

I haven't seen an upload of These Walls yet.

There are supposedly 10 cameras filming these shows, so even if you see 3 cameras moving around, the other 7 might be completely still at that same moment while these 3 are basically being "repositioned".

Also, even in their previous DVDs, sometimes cameras move. Sometimes James moves around the stage and the cameras just follow him and he stays on the frame for a while nonetheless, for example. You shouldn't even trust DT on that; you should trust Over the Edge, RoadRunner, there are so many people who took care of it during the show and will take care of it alongside JP during the production and mixing of the recorded material.

This.

The new DVD is going to be shot differently then the past few official DT DVDs due to the fact they're using Over The Edge to film and edit the DVD together. The only indicator we can get on what it might look like is the previous Over The Edge live videos that they have filmed and put together for other bands. As far as I know, some of those videos are listed on their website.

Even then, I assume it's going to be slightly different because they either handled their other shows independently or a band member cooperated with them. This time, it's hard to believe JP would just let them do it by themselves; so it's going to be influenced by JP's point of view, along with Over the Edge's directors.

I would've said that it's going to be a happy middle ground between Score and Over the Edge's other productions. But the truth is that we have no idea how it's going to look like.

[ResultsMayVary]

Yea, this is all speculation at best. But, I think a middle ground between Score and a typical Over The Edge live video is what we will end up seeing. And that is a very large middle ground, to be honest.

[kevinpwrs]

Hope that JP and the boys have a hand in how the editing of the dvd goes. I will look for some Over The Edge videos on youtube.

[Nekov]

Full setlist

Bits
These walls
Bmu bmd
This is the life
Caught in a web
Lost not forgotten
Drum solo
A fortune in lies
Wait for sleep
Far from heaven
Outcry
Jr solo
Surrounded
Otboa
War inside my head
Tttsta
Jp solo
Tsco
Bai
Pmu

Forgot LNF 

[Nekov]

Regarding the cameras, 2 of them were on cranes moving around, 2 more were being held by guys that walked on the stage, 4 of them were in front of the stage and the remaining ones were on the back of the arena filming the stage. MM also had a couple of cams in his drum kit

[kevinpwrs]

Oh Lord! We could be in trouble. I just watched some of the Over The Edge production videos. There was a lot of zooming back and forth over the audiences heads, quick cut away shots, a lot of close ups of concert goers singing etc. I really hope JP and the boys don't let them do this to the dvd. Here is the link to some of the videos I watched. What do yall think? I this is not allowed (to post this link) feel free to edit. Thanks.

https://otenyc.com/?cat=21

[Millais]

Still surprised by the lack of BC&SL. Can't help but think The Count of Tuscany would have been amazing. I know the songs length is too long to fit on the standard CD but it would have been fine on the blu-ray.

Just look how good this HD recording of TCOT is from last year in Zurich: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bJA281m-fo

[Millais]

Oh Lord! We could be in trouble. I just watched some of the Over The Edge production videos. There was a lot of zooming back and forth over the audiences heads, quick cut away shots, a lot of close ups of concert goers singing etc. I really hope JP and the boys don't let them do this to the dvd. Here is the link to some of the videos I watched. What do yall think? I this is not allowed (to post this link) feel free to edit. Thanks.

https://otenyc.com/?cat=21

It's worth baring in mind that the videos here are of bands with considerably different styles of music - therefore the recording reflects this quite a bit more.

[Jinx]

Had a look at a few of the videos. I just hope JP is helping to oversee the production and editing!

[YtseCullen]

Still surprised by the lack of BC&SL. Can't help but think The Count of Tuscany would have been amazing. I know the songs length is too long to fit on the standard CD but it would have been fine on the blu-ray.

Just look how good this HD recording of TCOT is from last year in Zurich: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bJA281m-fo

God damn I love that song, I forgot how much of an impact that song had on me! I sure hope they include that as a bonus feature or in a YJR release!

[IdoSC]

Still surprised by the lack of BC&SL. Can't help but think The Count of Tuscany would have been amazing. I know the songs length is too long to fit on the standard CD but it would have been fine on the blu-ray.

Just look how good this HD recording of TCOT is from last year in Zurich: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bJA281m-fo

God damn I love that song, I forgot how much of an impact that song had on me! I sure hope they include that as a bonus feature or in a YJR release!

With the gigantic setlist made out of both nights (excluding duplicates of course), I highly doubt any extra songs as bonus feature. Keeping my hopes up for YJR.

[YtseCullen]

Still surprised by the lack of BC&SL. Can't help but think The Count of Tuscany would have been amazing. I know the songs length is too long to fit on the standard CD but it would have been fine on the blu-ray.

Just look how good this HD recording of TCOT is from last year in Zurich: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bJA281m-fo

God damn I love that song, I forgot how much of an impact that song had on me! I sure hope they include that as a bonus feature or in a YJR release!

With the gigantic setlist made out of both nights (excluding duplicates of course), I highly doubt any extra songs as bonus feature. Keeping my hopes up for YJR.

Very true. I honestly have not one single complaint about this setlist, any thing else would be a huge bonus, after watching a youtube video of Bridges In The Sky I can say it definitely cemented my excitement for this DVD

[bosk1]

If someone has, could you pm me the link? Only if that is not against forum rules. Thanks.

I strongly suggest people read the rules immediately if they don't know them.  I've already posted twice in this thread reminding people that asking for or posting links is off limits, which has been a longstanding forum rule.  And the general attitude of subsequent posts saying, "hey, I hope posting this video isn't against the rules, but I'm going to post it anyway and hope for the best" doesn't fly.  Even though there is nothing wrong with the videos you posted, your general posting habits in this thread are a problem.  Enjoy a vacation while you think about that.

[LCArenas]

I'm hoping for a real good on the road documentary. A thing that tells me it will be pretty long is that, and I'm pretty sure you have noticed that, Jordan posts less on the road videos on his youtube account. He used to film and post a video of the crowd of every show they played in the last tour as well as him and other members of the band going out to the cities' major attractions; he doesn't do that anymore, and he loves to do it; Maybe it's because he's storing them all for the documentary? I seriously hope so. I was really excited when they mentioned Bogota in Maiden's Flight 666, and if this happens the excitement will be double.

[DTFan0789]

I really don't think I can wait more than 5 months for this Blu-ray.