For SDOIT Era Fans

Started by SystematicThought, April 13, 2012, 01:07:29 PM

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SystematicThought

(Anyone is free to comment on this of course, not just SDOIT era fans :P)

When you first popped in the disc back in 2002 and the heaviness of The Glass Prison played, was it somewhat of a shock to hear this from the band?

This might sound stupid, but the intro alone just is so heavy compared to previous efforts that I thought it might have been a shock to some.


Lowdz

It kind of was for me. I'm still not a huge fan of the first disc, though I know many are and that's due to the modern metal sound. I don't hate it and love bits of it, but I'm not often drawn to playing it. My love for the album is for disc 2 and I will play that anytime.

Dublagent66

It wasn't really a shock.  I just flatout didn't like it.  I had too much SFAM on the brain and SDOIT didn't really register right away.  Not that I don't like metal but I was expecting something else I guess.  It ended up being my favorite DT album.  Go figure...

theGonz

Quote from: Lowdz on April 13, 2012, 01:38:01 PM
My love for the album is for disc 2 and I will play that anytime.

Cable

Yes, it was. As 6DOIT was my first new DT album, I was overbearing with my listening. So when I first played TGP with a friend in the car, I told him to listen, and lied by saying it's not DT. He didn't think it sounded like them either. Not until the vocals kicked in did of course I say it was.

That whole entire intro still rules. Thinking about it, I wish they would have reprised at least the riff from 1:40ish again at some point in the suite, if not the infamous arpeggios for a third time. Or maybe they did in some variation that I have no idea about.

Plasmastrike

@CableX - At 4:25 of The Shattered Fortress I think JR is playing the TGP intro arpeggios. :)

Madman Shepherd

When I got this album I was still very much a "casual" fan.  I didn't really like the fast elements of DT, I much rather preferred the melodic and the heavy.  Once I because a hardcore fan, after Train of Though was released and I saw them for a second time, I went back and fell in love with the album.  TGP still took a long time to grow on me...sme with TGD.  BF and Misunderstood grew on me almost immediately upon my first listen.  I also dug half of the title track, though now Disc 2 is definitely my least favorite of that release. 

SeRoX

I heard Home before from SFAM, so it wasn't that shocking. But still one of their thrashy-heavy piece.

hefdaddy42

Yeah, it was a shock, but in a good way.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

TAC

I can still remember hearing TGP for the first time. I was already long a huge fan. When TGP ended, I was like whoa WTF! I literally played it a second time before I moved onto the rest of the album.

Unfortunately, TGP has not really aged that well for me.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

Cool Chris

Quote from: TAC on April 14, 2012, 10:40:25 AM
I can still remember hearing TGP for the first time. I was already long a huge fan. When TGP ended, I was like whoa WTF! I literally played it a second time before I moved onto the rest of the album.

Unfortunately, TGP has not really aged that well for me.

All of this, pretty much. After TGP, I thought "damn, what other awesomeness does this album have in store for me?" After BF, Misunderstood and Disappear, I couldn't believe 4 songs could hold so much greatness. And I still had one whole disc to get through.

Unfortunately, I was disappointed in disc 2 after being so amped from getting through disc 1.
Maybe the grass is greener on the other side because you're not over there fucking it up.

TAC

Quote from: Cool Chris on April 14, 2012, 11:12:20 AM
Unfortunately, I was disappointed in disc 2 after being so amped from getting through disc 1.
Oh, absolutely!
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

DreamerTV

I seriously thought i had the wrong cd. I was relatively new to DT, and in that year and a half i was listening to everything they had done since then. I was focusing on I&W and Awake, and to me the main difference between those albums and SDOIT was JLB voice. I mean, i knew he had his throat problem but he sounded too different. It took a couple of weeks before i realised it was their best work, and after 10 years i do think that it still is.

7thHanyou

I probably don't qualify for this thread, but...

This was probably the third Dream Theater album I heard, after SFAM (first) and I&W (second), and the heaviness just annoyed me.  I liked Home, for example, but I didn't think any of the heavy songs on SDoIT were that good (I like ToT much more, by the way).

Wasn't a fan.  Misunderstood and Disappear were good, but I really just like the second disc of this album.  It had been hyped up to me, especially the first disc, but I've never ranked it among Dream Theater's best and I didn't then, either.  The other two albums had set an exceptionally high bar, and only the second disc came close to meeting it for me.

Super Dude

I swear I just made this thread a year ago... :lol
:superdude:

SystematicThought

I even did a search! Oh well, this wouldn't be the first time it's happened  :lol

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Super Dude on April 14, 2012, 03:04:58 PM
I swear I just made this thread a year ago... :lol

I definitely recall a similar thread a little while ago.

For me SDOIT was my first DT album, so TGP was a life changing musical experience that kicked my ass.

El Barto

Not shocked at all, but definitely noted it's heaviness and thoroughly dug the hell out of it.  The ending is still one of my favorite things they've done.

Jaq

Is there a corner for "didn't think it was really THAT heavy, but didn't care since DT has been billed as a progressive metal band for ages"?

Cause I'll be sitting over there if there is.

wolfking

At the time, I thought it was the greatest thing I was ever hearing from Dream Theater.


Ben_Jamin

I don't know how its be a shock with Awake being heavy.

Progmetty

I always thought people who said that were basically talking about The Glass Prison, cause nothing else on SDoIT exceeds previous albums heaviness wise.

Ben_Jamin

Quote from: Progmetty on April 16, 2012, 09:20:38 PM
I always thought people who said that were basically talking about The Glass Prison, cause nothing else on SDoIT exceeds previous albums heaviness wise.

Yeah, that's their Pantera influence.