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I can't believe 6 Degrees is ten years old!

Started by JLa, March 12, 2012, 11:57:09 PM

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KevShmev

I think that final note of the title suite definitely should have been shorter.  And it is for me thanks to Audacity. :biggrin:

ytserush

I've been thinking about this a lot over the last few months.

I was lucky enough to score an advance copy back before it was discovered that advanced copies would command ridiculous amounts of money on ebay. So I was was heavily hooked on this album since before Christmas of 2001.

But I knew it was going to be great anyway since I wasn't a huge fan of Scenes From A Memory and they weren't going to do an album like that again.  Also for the first time Jordan would be able to contribute form the beginning and I still believed the sky was the limit.

I still remember waiting out front at BB Kings for the "low-key" warm up show (which I guess turned out to be an audience-participation rehersal gig from the European Tour). The sleet was coming down pretty heavily at times. That was one of my favorite Dream theater gigs just based on the intimacy of it.

I never thought I'd ever witness a gig that topped Live Scenes from New York but I think those back to-back nights at the Beacon in March 10 years ago did it for me. (And of course the Score show (six years ago) is right up there if not on top.)


Six Degrees continues to be a very passionate album for me on all levels.

Ħ

Possibly their best album.

IMO the last truly great album they released. /flameshield

The Glass Prison - A blast from start to finish. My favorite balls-to-the-wall metal song that they've put out. 9/10
Blind Faith - The other side of the coin of TGP. Still incredibly instrumental, but much more uplifting, melodic, and ethereal. 9/10
Misunderstood - Really awesome intro. Very angsty but in an actually effective way. And BLAST IT that last section makes for the only bad part of the album. Without it, I am sure SDOIT would beat out SFAM for their #1 album. 5/10
The Great Debate - One of the best intros/outros I know. The main riff is kinda lame though. Still a pretty solid song that doesn't feel like it's 14 minutes long (or whatever it is) at all. 6/10
Disappear - The best ballad they've released. Extremely powerful and touching. My favorite performance by JLB as well. 10/10
SDOIT - Absolutely wonderful. They captured the best of every element of who they are. The metal is their best metal, the prog is their best prog, the pop is their best pop. Jawdropping. 10/10

theseoafs

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One of their best albums. Top 3 with Images and SFAM (which are also perfect albums).

The Glass Prison: Unbelievable. So heavy and intense and relentless. It's hard not to feel energized and angry, but DT somehow still finds room for a few catchy, singable hooks. The 12 Step Suite was doomed never to top this incredible introduction. 9/10

Blind Faith: An incredible, uplifting, rocking tune. I'm struck by exactly how full the band is able to make the verses sound, because musically, not a lot is going on (by DT standards). It really speaks to the band's orchestration as well as to this album's extremely good production. This song is at times ethereal, heavy, beautiful, majestic... it covers more ground than TGP in less time, which is an impressive feat. The instrumental bridge and unison steals the show here, but the entire thing is perfect. Top 10 material. 10/10

Misunderstood: A great song, the likes of which we haven't really seen from DT since. The verses and choruses have a really catchy, almost pop feel to them, but there are some more intense undertones which push through every now and then. The riff that appears during the bridge and outro is a point of contention among fans, but I like the groove. Experimental DT is good DT. 9/10

The Great Debate: More great stuff. As I said above, experimental DT is good DT, and the progressive elements really shine here. What I like about this track is that it's so dense -- you can always come back and notice something new, which is great when you listen to this one as much as I do. Of particular note is the chorus, which has one of the best melodies DT's ever done as well as some really awesome lyrics. I also really, really like the keyboard lead at 10:55. It's so cool. 10/10

Disappear: A beautiful song. Amazing lyrics. The recurring piano motif is unlike anything I've ever heard... so haunting. The standout moment here is the final verse, which is simple, yet powerful. That could describe the entire tune, actually. 9/10

SDOIT: What can I say about this one that hasn't already been said? This is perfection. I'd say my favorite section is About to Crash and its Reprise; so beautiful and interesting. Each section has its own merits, though. To me, however, this song has one major flaw: The Test that Stumped Them All. I like DT's heavy stuff, but this song... I don't know. It always seemed kind of silly to me. I'm able to overlook it, though, because the latter half of SDOIT is one of the best, most consistent 20 minutes of music the band has ever produced. In my top 10, SDOIT sits comfortably at number 3, behind only 8V and ACOS. 10/10

BlobVanDam

Quote from: KevShmev on March 15, 2012, 11:21:58 AM
I think that final note of the title suite definitely should have been shorter.  And it is for me thanks to Audacity. :biggrin:

The skip button would have been easier! :lol

Orbert

I understand what they were going for with all the soundbites in the intro and outro of The Great Debate, and it works... once.  After that, they're not saying anything new.  I can listen to music over and over, but listening to people babble does nothing for me.  But you can't skip it or anything, because the music is going underneath.  Yes, I get it; the great debate goes on.  That's not the problem.  It just doesn't bear repeated listenings.

I much prefer how they did Sacrificed Sons, and the edit on "Greatest Hit" shows that someone was thinking the same thing.

ResultsMayVary

Quote from: Orbert on March 15, 2012, 09:35:51 PM
I understand what they were going for with all the soundbites in the intro and outro of The Great Debate, and it works... once.  After that, they're not saying anything new.  I can listen to music over and over, but listening to people babble does nothing for me.  But you can't skip it or anything, because the music is going underneath.  Yes, I get it; the great debate goes on.  That's not the problem.  It just doesn't bear repeated listenings.

I much prefer how they did Sacrificed Sons, and the edit on "Greatest Hit" shows that someone was thinking the same thing.
I really like the soundbites in the song. It adds a lot of depth and some direct links between the topic in the real world and the lyrics and how it's presented in the song.

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Great album, it belongs to the upper half in my ranking and TGP, BF and TGD are among my favorite DT songs! :tup However, I think it could've been even better if the title-suite had been shortened to fit the first disc. That way the album would be tighter and they could've released the remaining stuff on some EP.


LTE3

Quote from: JLa on March 13, 2012, 03:14:19 AM
I love the "experimental" mood on this album. Jordan is all over the place with different sounds and patches, and there's some really neat drumming from MP in there. Blind Faith is a personal favorite of mine; so many layers and details ending in a solid chorus.

If I could take one Dt album with me this would be it. It is the longest and close to if the best. I recall going to see an evening with at the Beacon Theater to see them perform this what a great show and they play 6:00 which is rare. I also think MP's drum kit from this tour was the coolest adn biggest I think. Love the Jordan Keys in Blind Faith, Mike's drumming in TGD and everyone in Glass Prison and Six Degress. What a great follow up to Scenes. Too bad IMO they went a little off the mark in the next few albums.

Elsydeon

And here I thought this thread was about a DTF user named 6 degrees who is 10 years old