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Dream Theater to be on VH1 Classic's "Metal Evolution" as series finale?

Started by The Fatal Tragedy, January 24, 2012, 09:54:08 PM

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ZirconBlue

Quote from: Gadough on February 08, 2012, 11:48:12 AM
I watched the nu metal one since I have a soft spot for nu metal....I appreciate his honesty when he made it clear that he doesn't like the genre, but it was an obvious detriment to the episode. Almost half of it focuses on the riot at Woodstock 99 caused by Limp Bizkit. That should have been mentioned, but to go into that much detail was unnecessary. And he didn't once mention Slipknot. WTF.


Slipknot was covered on the show, on the "shock rock" episode.

TL

Quote from: Dark Castle on February 08, 2012, 01:51:12 PM
I mean I love Opeth, do not get me wrong, I love them, but Dillinger have had to work their asses off to get to where they are today, and I'm not saying Opeth hasn't either, but Ben Weinman works his fucking fingers to the bone to make his band shine, and I think that deserves mad respect and some attention.
If you're objectively looking at who has had more of an impact and influence on the progressive scene though, it's Opeth my a hundred miles.

Dark Castle

Quote from: TL on February 09, 2012, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: Dark Castle on February 08, 2012, 01:51:12 PM
I mean I love Opeth, do not get me wrong, I love them, but Dillinger have had to work their asses off to get to where they are today, and I'm not saying Opeth hasn't either, but Ben Weinman works his fucking fingers to the bone to make his band shine, and I think that deserves mad respect and some attention.
If you're objectively looking at who has had more of an impact and influence on the progressive scene though, it's Opeth my a hundred miles.
But The Dillinger Escape Plan have pretty much broken into the mainstream finally, and will probably continue to make a bigger impact, like I said I love Opeth, and Opeth deserved a spot definitely on this series, but to say TDEP didn't is absurd as they're shaping the genre even further, and only becoming more and more popular.
EDIT: I'd post the whole album, but no need to go to that length.  Track 6 from Option Paralysis, Widower https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zew6hGsFNXQ

TL

That track was pretty good.
The glimpse given of the band during that episode was extremely unflattering compared to that.

Dark Castle

Quote from: TL on February 09, 2012, 06:35:37 PM
That track was pretty good.
The glimpse given of the band during that episode was extremely unflattering compared to that.
I'll need to watch that episode, to see what track they put up, but any track from Option Paralysis is amazing.

Dittomist

I've watched most of the Metal Evolution episodes and have been very impressed.  Here are the only things that have bothered me:
I don't think Faith No More's segment was fair because it was mostly just about how they influenced that godawful nu-metal subgenre. I'm so sick of people referring to Faith No More as a one hit wonder by only referencing "Epic." I wish Metal Evolution would have talked about their other albums (which sound absolutely nothing alike), especially Angel Dust, an extremely powerful and intense masterpiece that was so ahead of its time.
I think the glam metal episode wasn't giving enough respect to the actual music of certain bands. Yeah, they definitely looked like typical 80's hair metal bands, but bands like Cinderella, Stryper, and Skid Row deserve so much more credit because most of their albums were really passionate and diverse.
It's disappointing how they will spend 5 minutes on amazing bands like Nightwish and Alice in Chains, but only play segments of the same song over and over again. When talking about Alice in Chains' contributions to metal, they should have featured some music from Dirt instead of Man in the Box repeatedly.
But those are my only complaints. It has been a wonderful series and I'm very thankful to VH1 and Sam for giving the history of metal the respect and attention it deserves. I was nervous while watching the Power Metal episode because if they hadn't mentioned Helloween (one of my all-time favorite bands), I was going to be pissed. So I was very happy with how much airtime and recognition they ended up getting.  And of course, I was also thrilled with the Dream Theater and Queensryche segments!

cramx3

Sam does a good job, Flight 666 was an awesome documentary. I only caught the prog and power metal episodes. Ill have to keep my eyes out for reairs.

skydivingninja

Quote from: cramx3 on February 19, 2012, 10:46:49 AM
Sam does a good job, Flight 666 was an awesome documentary. I only caught the prog and power metal episodes. Ill have to keep my eyes out for reairs.

They're all on VH1 to be streamed for free.

btw was anyone else bugged when MP came up and the box said "Mike Portnoy, Drums-Dream Theater."  :facepalm:

black_biff_stadler

Hey everyone, it seems VH1 Classic is in the middle of showing all 11 episodes of this thing in the order they originally aired (I think anyway since it's ending with the two that I know for a fact were the last episodes "Power Metal" and "Progressive Metal") and we've only missed the first one and the first 40 minutes of the second one. So if y'all are looking to kill some time from now until midnight EST, here ya go :tup

black_biff_stadler

The episode for Grunge just ended. Pretty fucking horrible. Too many pretentious music snobs saying "Grunge ain't metal, we don't wear spandex" as if glam is the only style of metal rather than merely being an overly popularized and prefabricated stylistic abomination of the 80s that was a fleeting presence (in the grand scheme of things anyway) in the history of metal.

The diarrhea icing on this shit cake was the ENTIRE SEGMENT devoted to validating Nickelback as carrying the torch for grunge.

Edit: Man, the guy who narrates and does the interviews surely does a nice job of coming across as well-informed but any small level of paying attention quickly makes it obvious that he really didn't do nearly enough homework for these shows to be postured as some kind of authority. I realize he gives disclaimers about how unaware he is about some genres but he still managed to drop the ball quite badly on more than a few occasions. One of the most glaring "For real, dude?!" moments I had was when he call Mastodon's Leviathan the first prog metal concept album of its decade even as he announced it as having come out in 2004. It wouldn't have been such a glaring mistake if he was on the incorrect assumption that Leviathan came out in 2000 but to be ignorant enough about prog metal to call an album that came out in 2004 the first prog metal concept album of its decade is borderline mentally retarded considering that it seems like at least a good 5-10% of prog metal albums released since 2000 are concept albums (probably a lot more than that if we were to look into it.)

TL

QuoteThe diarrhea icing on this shit cake was the ENTIRE SEGMENT devoted to validating Nickelback as carrying the torch for grunge.
Wow, really? That sounds pretty terrible.